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Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances?
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 12:45:19 PM
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AslansChild
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I can understand making a choice based on your own family convictions and your own children. Not sure about categorizing the rest of us who make a different choice. Wow kinda took the broad-brush in this response. I was not categorizing. People need to make the best choice for their situation. As a parent who "chose" to send his son to a private all boys school I see the importance of the role dances play in his natural maturity. I had the experiences of going to both public and private Christian schools for High School and I have friends that were home schooled. Each group contains individuals who have different socialization needs that are evident but not as a result of how they were educated. I believe the "concern" of dances on this topic is what can happen what will they hear and how will they behave. By the time a Christian child is in High school I don't think going to a dance will do any harm and by having a child already in a more social situation (in school) they will be able to represent themselves and Christ accordingly.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 12:52:34 PM
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AslansChild
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My point was, school dances as we know them are a relatively recent and entirely cultural thing. They are not a necessary part of growing up, but part of the American (or British, or whatever) experience, and a person isn't going to devastate their children's entire life and make them unable to relate to other people by choosing not to partake in a particular cultural activity. I guess you need to define recent. To my understanding school dances have been around for over 50 years at least. In other cultures (outside of the US) there are other social events like the Quinceañera, that include dancing as well. High schools also have pep rallies, bonfires and other activities where socialization is encouraged. Maybe it's the dancing aspect that draws the negative replies because of how conservative Christians view this activity as a negative. (Footloose the movie comes to mind).
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 12:54:02 PM
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I don't normally post in this folder, but I saw the thread title and it reminded me of something that Mrs. K showed me from the Dr. Phil show. I don't know how widespread this behavior is, but I was absolutely flabbergasted (and I do not flabbergast easily). The subject of the show was "Teen Sex Trends". The speaker is a teacher who was shocked by what she found as a chaperone at the prom. This could scare the dickens out of a parent. Teen prom behavior
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 1:10:41 PM
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Sideways
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My point was, school dances as we know them are a relatively recent and entirely cultural thing. They are not a necessary part of growing up, but part of the American (or British, or whatever) experience, and a person isn't going to devastate their children's entire life and make them unable to relate to other people by choosing not to partake in a particular cultural activity. I guess you need to define recent. To my understanding school dances have been around for over 50 years at least. If you read certain classics like Pride and Prejudice, then you'd see youngsters in their early to mid teens going to dances, although those included adults as well. Knowing how to dance used to be much more important then it is now, and I mean real dancing, not bump and grind. I think proper partner dancing can actually be a wonderful thing for any youngster to learn. dH and I took several classes together while we were in college.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 1:10:56 PM
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You're welcome. I think it's something that homeschool moms assume they won't have to deal with, but it's not necessarily true.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 1:25:59 PM
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coolfamily6
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ORIGINAL: Kerrlaw I don't normally post in this folder, but I saw the thread title and it reminded me of something that Mrs. K showed me from the Dr. Phil show. I don't know how widespread this behavior is, but I was absolutely flabbergasted (and I do not flabbergast easily). The subject of the show was "Teen Sex Trends". The speaker is a teacher who was shocked by what she found as a chaperone at the prom. This could scare the dickens out of a parent. Teen prom behavior While I think these trends are true overall. I've seen them, researched them, etc. They don't have to be, we can teach our children to change that that trend to stand for something different. We do not have to paint all teens with a broad brush. I know a lot of teens that aren't out there going to prom just to have sex, get high or drunk etc. There are young adults in our SS class that went to dances in high school and prom and stayed pure until their wedding night.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 1:44:52 PM
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stellaluna
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Seems to me like there is a socialization chip perched on a few shoulders. If handled properly, school dances can be a very important socialization exercise. They can teach a lesson in extending an invitation and graciously accepting or denying an invitation. They can teach a lesson in planning for a special event, which includes any niceties that are appropriate, like buying flowers, arranging for transportation, communicating with parents, choosing clothing, etc. It is an opportunity for parents to discuss behavior that is appropriate in a public setting, what to do if someone asks you to dance, what to do if someone doesn't ask you to dance; proms might have a receiving line, which most teens haven't had to navigate on their own. I can name off other things, too, that can be gained. As far back as the 1700s it was very important to learn to dance and to learn to conduct oneself at a dance. I personally think in recent years there has been a trend away from sending kids to dancing school (or cotillion) and those social skills have been lost.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 1:55:36 PM
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Sideways
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ORIGINAL: stellaluna I can name off other things, too, that can be gained. As far back as the 1700s it was very important to learn to dance and to learn to conduct oneself at a dance. I personally think in recent years there has been a trend away from sending kids to dancing school (or cotillion) and those social skills have been lost. I agree with you. While I think that basic good manners must be taught at home, there can be a real place for perfecting the social niceties needed for a formal, social event. It's a little sad to see some of these things slipping away. Dance classes at my university were quite cheap and lots of fun.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 2:23:23 PM
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AslansChild
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Or, a teen may be so disgusted and put off by the garbage surrounding the event that he or she doesn't feel like sifting through it for the good stuff is even worthwhile. That teen might feel there are better things to do with their time. I cannot speak to your experiences but dances I have attended might have had loud music and some pretty awful cardboard pizza but I would not use the word garbage. Sometimes I feel that it is the misunderstanding or the generalization of "secular events" being filled with filth. When in fact these events are pretty well supervised. I also think non-saved teens will police out those that can ruin the event by acting in a manner that is disrespectful. I graduated from a Christian high school that did not have a prom, they had a Senior banquet. Approximately 9 months after graduation one of my classmates was a mom, three of my classmates needed to attend sobriety classes because they were caught driving with an open container. Its not the event, it's those attending.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 3:23:43 PM
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W.O.F.
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I would say it depends.... On the child, on the venue, on the level of chaperoning and on whether or not the child would welcome their parent walking in at ANY time to see how it's going. Personally....I chose to stay away from Proms and homecoming dances...where I grew up they were nothing more than an excuse to sneak some booze and behave badly. There were "proper" dances where that sort of thing didn't happen..but they were the kind where FAMILIES attended together or were at weddings, sweet 16's,etc. So for me it isn't a blanket yes or no for dances...but pretty much for the Prom and homecoming...because they aren't any better here than they were where I grew up...and the girls dress....well....some walkers of the street are more modestly dressed.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 4:46:25 PM
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3cappuccinosmom
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They can teach a lesson in extending an invitation and graciously accepting or denying an invitation. They can teach a lesson in planning for a special event, which includes any niceties that are appropriate, like buying flowers, arranging for transportation, communicating with parents, choosing clothing, etc. It is an opportunity for parents to discuss behavior that is appropriate in a public setting, what to do if someone asks you to dance, what to do if someone doesn't ask you to dance; proms might have a receiving line, which most teens haven't had to navigate on their own. And all of these things can be learned elsewhere, as well. It doesn't matter to me what other parents do. It does matter to me if other parents imply that unless my kids go to school dances, they will be lacking in some vital social skill.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 4:51:33 PM
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coolfamily6
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Or, a teen may be so disgusted and put off by the garbage surrounding the event that he or she doesn't feel like sifting through it for the good stuff is even worthwhile. That teen might feel there are better things to do with their time. I cannot speak to your experiences but dances I have attended might have had loud music and some pretty awful cardboard pizza but I would not use the word garbage. Sometimes I feel that it is the misunderstanding or the generalization of "secular events" being filled with filth. When in fact these events are pretty well supervised. I also think non-saved teens will police out those that can ruin the event by acting in a manner that is disrespectful. I graduated from a Christian high school that did not have a prom, they had a Senior banquet. Approximately 9 months after graduation one of my classmates was a mom, three of my classmates needed to attend sobriety classes because they were caught driving with an open container. Its not the event, it's those attending. AslansChild, I think a lot depends on geography, demographics, the school district, the school itself, parent involvement etc. The middle school DD attended had well chaperoned dances (descibed above I won't repeat), we let her go in 8th grade because she was mature enough. She is now in a public magnet/IB high school. The dances are not as well supervised. There is A LOT of the bumping/grinding dancing, horrible music with lyrics that would make my face red, that DD would not listen to if she was given the choice. She doesn't want to go to the dances which is great because she is not allowed to go. This may change when she is a senior for prom if I am allowed to chaperone. I have been allowed to be on the PTSA board when is a great foot in the door. As I said I feel this may be geography/demographics of our area. It may not be the case in your area/schools.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 6:34:08 PM
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peculiar_lady2
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If handled properly, school dances can be a very important socialization exercise. They can teach a lesson in extending an invitation and graciously accepting or denying an invitation. They can teach a lesson in planning for a special event, which includes any niceties that are appropriate, like buying flowers, arranging for transportation, communicating with parents, choosing clothing, etc. It is an opportunity for parents to discuss behavior that is appropriate in a public setting, what to do if someone asks you to dance, what to do if someone doesn't ask you to dance; proms might have a receiving line, which most teens haven't had to navigate on their own. I can name off other things, too, that can be gained. As far back as the 1700s it was very important to learn to dance and to learn to conduct oneself at a dance. I personally think in recent years there has been a trend away from sending kids to dancing school (or cotillion) and those social skills have been lost. I totally agree...however I chose to vote no because I took the question to be school related and my kids are homeschooled. I do think social formal events are important to learn how to handle...however, I don't consider a high school dance to necessarily be alone in that category. We are already teaching certain formal training in our schooling, and will continue to grow more as they age, but dancing the way school dances go these days will not be part of that. We may do a few ballroom classes in the future, or square dancing (my mom took that in school and loved it...lol), but I do not agree with the type of music or dancing that goes on at those types of events that are held in school gymnasiums.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 6:52:40 PM
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I just came across this randomly when I was viewing the forum home page...but am wondering, why is dancing bad? Why wouldn't parents not let their children go? I haven't really seen alot of legitimate reasons to be honest...
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 7:27:09 PM
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I just came across this randomly when I was viewing the forum home page...but am wondering, why is dancing bad? Why wouldn't parents not let their children go? I haven't really seen alot of legitimate reasons to be honest... I'm the one that posted the original post. I don't think all dancing is bad, but the type of dancing to the modern music these days, to me, looks like lustful acts. Some of the moves just look sexual. The music can be loud and not music we would approve to have in our own home. Also, the closeness of boys/girls...etc...some dances just tempt to physical acts. And, especially at Prom, there seems to be an expectation of partying/ getting drunk and sometimes sex after. I guess I feel that our body and what we do with it should be all about serving God as a living sacrifice and this seems like it would be offering ourselves to the world's system and it's ways. Anyways, we homeschool and at my Dd's age of 14 we have told her "no". She has been confronted by other christian homeschooled kids to go and I posted to see how many christian kids do attend and I guess I am stunned.
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RE: Should Chrisian Teens attend Prom or Dances? - 10/12/2009 7:56:16 PM
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If I knew my child would have convictions and not follow the crowd, that would be different. At this point in time, I think peer pressure would get them.
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