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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 2:49:40 PM
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Kat_D
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Do all the research you want to on the ingredients of Chocolate, but you still do not have the experience of the taste, and therefore can not rightly describe it.
I do not have to taste chocolate to know that it causes zits and migraine headaches, do I?
Do I have to become a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness to know that their teachings don't line up with the Word of God? No, I study the Truth, that I might recognize the counterfeit.
15 "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." II Timothy 2
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 3:38:09 PM
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Smith has put God in a TheoPhostic box, because he says that "God will not speak His truth" if the counselor has "not correctly identified the original lie" (p. 76). Thus God’s hands are tied and His mouth is shut without the expert, the TheoPhostic counselor who has mastered Smith’s system. Smith says the counselor "must discover ‘the lie’ that matches ‘the picture’ and stir up the accompanying emotion" so that the client can hear "the divine truth" (p. 57).
This is Smith's own words...and this is biblical?
No, that is NOT Biblical.
Yet what is the answer for a person who is 62 years old, been saved for 53 years, and are still dealing with emotional problems (some pretty severe) that stem from very early (age two) childhood sexual abuse? This person has prayed and sought God diligently for healing for over thirty years. This person goes to church, lives the best life that they can, reads their Bible, and believes correct theology as presented in their protestant church (no cults involved).
Is this person to live the remainder of their life with the problems that they are dealing with because of the abuse? Is it not possible for them to be emotionally healed and made whole? And isn't it possible that if Jesus doesn't heal them directly, He would use someone like a minister or someone gifted with Faith, Discernment, Healing or one of the other Gifts of the Spirit?
The only comment that I can think of concerning the quote is that the person involved in Theophostic ministry/counseling HAS to recognize/identify the CORRECT lie from the devil so that they can deal with the correct issue and pray correctly. Otherwise, how would they know what to pray for? For example, if a person is sick and they think it is just a headache, and they pray for the Lord to heal their headache, it won't work if the cause of the headache is a tumor or broken neck. Of course Jesus/God knows the truth, but in counseling and with emotional trauma, I believe the patient has to know the truth of the problem to accept healing of that exact problem.
Again, I am struggling with words and do not know if I am explaining my thoughts clearly.
I have said a couple of times already - I do not support, nor am I against this ministry as of yet. I am interested in finding out the truth about it. But I will only believe the truth as stated from the source (Dr. Smith), or from a person who has gone through and experienced this ministry.
(BTW, you do not have proof that chocolate causes "zits". Some physicians say that is an old wives tale.) :o)
I need to look into the other ministries that Dave_W mentioned also.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 3:45:40 PM
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Kat_D
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BTW, you do not have proof that chocolate causes "zits". Some physicians say that is an old wives tale.)
By this, you obviously missed the whole point of the post.
If you open your eyes and study the Bible, it will not be difficult to see that this ministry is not in alignment with the scriptures. But, then again, "There are none so blind..."
That said, I now see this is an exercise in futility, so please excuse my dust. 
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 3:49:04 PM
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I have received healing through Jesus Christ, but it was not through this form of therapy. Do you only want to hear stories of Theophostic?
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 3:50:18 PM
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ORIGINAL: teacher1982
I have said a couple of times already - I do not support, nor am I against this ministry as of yet. I am interested in finding out the truth about it. But I will only believe the truth as stated from the source (Dr. Smith), or from a person who has gone through and experienced this ministry.
I'm very sorry...God is close to the brokenhearted... 
I hope you find whatever you're looking for and perhaps the encouragement and strength to make better choices by reyling on Christ and not past hurts.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 4:33:02 PM
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Teacher,
Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. Romans 8:26
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 4:49:03 PM
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Kat_D - your comments sounded rather hateful to me. Sorry you are frustrated at my posts, but I am sincerely searching for truths. And I am NOT blind.
Sharonjef2007 - Yes, I would like to hear about your healing no matter what the method. You may send me a private email if you are not comfortable posting it here. Thank you.
BTW, I never said it was me that needs this type of help. I am doing the research.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 5:19:19 PM
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teacher1982,
I've read through this thread and I just want to encourage you to continue to believe the Lord does want our wounds healed. The identification of the lies we believe is important. Paul in Corinthians tells us we are to cast down everything that's raised against the knowledge of God. (II Cor 10:3-6) Some of those exalted things are lies we have believed.
I have found Jesus Christ through the working of His word in me and the power of the Holy Spirit to be the help I need in identifying lies that I have believed. And He continues to set me free so that I walk in the liberty of the Spirit.
I went to The Counselor for my help and He is available to every man who believes on the Lord Jesus Christ. He will help your friend as well. They only need to believe. And the encouragement of godly friends who are willing to stand by them, speak truth to them, and pray for their healing. It can be a rather slow process. But Jesus is Victor and promises that He will accomplish ALL for us (those who are His). So believe for your friend. Get into the word of God with your friend. Encourage them. Help them cast down the lies. (My husband does this for me as well.) And pray.
I applaud you for your love and encouragement for the wounded and hurting. That's who Jesus came for (the sick). Help them know Him and the healing He alone can bring to their wounded souls.  Liveloved
BTW, I do not hear an 'agenda' in your words other than a desire for the healing of others. Bless you.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 6:37:39 PM
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I have time to look up Nouthetic Counseling on the Internet and read the description of what it is.
This counseling method uses "confrontation, concern, and change". The confrontational part is when one Christian personally gives counsel to another using the scriptures. He does not confront the other one with his own ideas of those of other people.
Yet in the "change" part it says that "Only Biblical counselors know what a counsellee should become as the result of counseling." These two statements sound contradictory to me. How can a counselor "know" what a person should become if it's not with his own ideas? All becomes the interpretation of each counselor's view of Scriptures. In other words, depending on the denomination that the counselor is associated with, the counsellee could receive different words of counseling.
Unless I am reading it wrong - and I don't think I am because I quoted exact sentences - this doesn't sound like a real good, unbiased, Bible-based, trust-in-Jesus ONLY counseling.
I found a website for the other counseling ministry mentioned by Dave_W, but not a very good description of what it is, how it works, what it's philosophy is and so on. There may be more sites with more information that I missed.
So far, Theophostic is the only counseling ministry that I have read about that specifically and adamantly claims to be based ONLY on the Word of God, prayer, and the healing power of Jesus. I haven't read where Theophostic counselors make their own decisions on what a counsellee should become based on their interpretations of the scriptures. Theophostic ministry leaves this part of the counseling to Jesus.
I'm still searching.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 6:43:31 PM
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Teacher, in some of your posts I think you have misunderstood what some of us were saying, including myself. Yes, we do believe Jesus can heal our wounds; spiritually, emotionally, and physically. I never said otherwise. I do know, the Word expressely states it, that He wants to heal us. It may not happen overnight, in a day, no, it may take a lifetime.
True Biblical counseling does not need 'state-of-the-art' techniques that border on new age tactics to work. A competent Christian counselor, with the aid of the Holy Spirit, can help guide a hurting individual to healing through Jesus; the great Healer Himself.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 10:28:04 PM
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Okay. I just checked out a page from theophostic.c and read the 12 basic principals.
It all looked okay to me. It's like using science with God's Word. Understanding how we live in fear and then deny that we do, but then we make decisions in life based on the fear we deny. Pretty good stuff, because it seems like almost everyone who comes to me for Godly council has fear... fear of rejection, failure, pain, whatever.
Also what I just read stated that when we admit our fears and the lies we tell ourselves, and face the truth instead... like repenting of something we are in bondage to that did not come from God. When we do this with God and His Word... then we can be freed from those fears and lies by Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit.
I don't see a thing off about it so far. Go and do your research. the website is very concise and intelligent. Pray and compare what you read to God's Word. Ask God to show you if this is something not of Him. If there is deceit in it, it will be revealed to you. God bless you.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/14/2009 11:08:32 PM
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There is a good book out describing the deception invading the church today. Try finding "Trojan Church" by Dr. Gregory R. Reid (ISBN 978-1-60647-733-5. It could be hard to find in many "Christian" book stores as many are selling many of the new age books being sold. I had to go to B&N in my town as an example.
Any time you get into guided imagery and visualization, run. New age thought is nothing more that the occult brought into the light and passed on as Godly. Deception will not always be found in the bright lights of any ministry. The subtle delusion will be found in the details. As many Christians are searching for answers their pastors aren't answering, the gods of this world are just waiting for you to open your spirit to their deception. By the time they find the details, they have been found bound by familiar spirits and demons of deception.
There is a way out. Deliverance. Not the new stuff, but the old Pentecostal deliverance. The first step is to forgive the person that has hurt you. If you don't forgive, I mean really forgive, you harbor that experience and allow it to fester as an open wound that never heals (kind of like picking a scab over and over expecting the wound to heal). I have also seen people healed (as testified to herein these posts) during conversion. As we repent and do a 180 in our lives, forgive others and ourselves, and received Jesus as our Lord and Saviour, thus becoming a new creation in Jesus Christ, where the past passes away and all things become new, many things can change if you will only let Him take control.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/15/2009 9:51:18 AM
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singpeace - I agree. I haven't found anything that goes against the Word of God in the articles that I have read about Theophostic ministry. I DID, however, find a very troubling statement when I read about Nouthetic Counseling which is highly recommended.
Peloton - I haven't read anywhere that says the Theophostic ministry uses "guided imagery and visualization". Where do you find that it does? Show me.
I believe in the Gifts of the Spirit and the person needing the help does too. We have been to Pentecostal churches more times than we can count. Again, what do you say about a person who has been saved 53 years and has not been delivered from the devastating results of sexual abused suffered as a child although they have sought the Lord diligently for more than 30 years? I believe in the healing power of Jesus, but I also believe that most of the time it takes the prayers of others, not just the person themselves. The Bible tells us to bear one another's burdens and pray for each other.
People are NOT healed at the point of salvation. I have never seen anyone that was. Have you? We become new creatures in that we are children of God and no longer of this world, but we are not guaranteed healing and I have never seen it happen when someone got saved. But there are MANY testimonies of people who received healing through prayer, the Word of God, and Christian counseling by anointed, gifted, trained ministers.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/15/2009 10:40:25 AM
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Teacher 1982, I am sorry that I came off as "hateful" and as I reviewed my comments, I see that I was short and flippant in my last couple of posts and I apologize.
I have such a burden for those led astray by these types of ministries and my only goal was to help ensure that you would not be hurt by this one. In trying to communicate this I have hurt you, and for that, I ask for your forgiveness.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/15/2009 10:48:24 AM
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I have time to look up Nouthetic Counseling on the Internet and read the description of what it is.
I dunno which site you went to...but the official site for the National Association of Nouthetic Counselors is http://www.nanc.org/
Another official site is IABC - International Association of Biblical Counselors.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/15/2009 10:57:13 AM
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Kat_D - that's OK. I understand where you are coming from. It just hit me wrong when you said that about being blind.
I have the same motivation as you do - to keep from being led astray by false doctrine. I want to find out the truth about Theophostic ministry and I honestly do not see anything new age and I do not see where it uses visualization techniques or guided imagery. I DO want to help the Truth to be found for this person and for them to receive complete and total healing. They have lived a life of pure misery, which a Christian should not have to do - not from inner, mental and emotional torment. We expect physical ailments because we live in a body of flesh. But the mind/soul belongs to Jesus and Christians should not have to endure this type of torment - especially for all of their life, which has also been basically ruined due to bad choices made because of the lies they believed that they were no good, didn't deserve anything good, wasn't worthy, everything they did was wrong and bad, and that they deserved mistreatment. These are lies that they believed from the time of the abuse as a very young child - around two years of age. Yet they were saved when they were nine.
I don't understand it all. Seems like they should have been healed of all this mental and emotional anguish, but they haven't. And it isn't because this person hasn't prayed, lived a good life to the best of their ability, and tried and tried to find relief and healing.
I sincerely believe in the prayers of others for the sick - no matter what the sickness is. There are ministers and counselors anointed and gifted to pray for others. If a person finds someone who is degreed as a psychologist in the secular world, yet also an ordained minister, gifted to pray for this type of healing, and trained in Biblical councelling, I see no wrong in it whatsoever.
Since I am the one and only support person for them, I will take much caution and do a whole lot of praying.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/15/2009 11:37:47 AM
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doinkdom - Thank you for the official link for Nouthetic Counseling. The way I understand what I read, their counselors teach/counsel someone on the Biblical principles of how to live a Christian life. That is good, but it also puts the burden on the person to do the work to live that way. Most likely that person has already tried and tried to live a Christian life as they have been taught to do. This puts even more guilt on them if they still have problems. People say - and have even insinuated here - that the person wants to hold onto their problems. (that statement was in one of the very first posts).
Many people need "healing". They can't do the work themselves. They can't become better on their own even through study of God's word and even through their own prayers. They need help from others. They needs others to pray for them - to reach Jesus for them. This is not unBiblical. I think that we have all been in the place of not being able to pray for ourselves, have faith, or even feel like we have reached the Lord because we are so burdened down. To make someone feel like their problems are due to them not obeying the Word or trying to live the best they can will only put more guilt and condemnation on them. They have enough from the devil. That is what is holding them down. They believe the lies of the devil - the lies the devil told them at the time of the abuse and which they have believed from that point on as being the truth about themselves.
I am sure that Nouthetic counseling works for some people, but not those that are suffering from the results of severe abuse and can not "do better" on their own by obeying instructions to pray more, read more, believe more and so on.
These are two different methods of counseling and both have their place.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/15/2009 11:43:34 AM
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teacher1982,
I am so thankful this person has you in their life! We all need such a friend.
I don't intend to sound like I have 'the' answer but after reading your description of your friend's life, the continuing battle, I just want to suggest something. Desiring healing can be rooted in a preoccupation with self, a perverse kind of pride. And as long as we are clinging to our own desire for healing, we are loving our self. (I am speaking from personal experience here and not speaking to judge either you or your friend.)
Anyway, what I learned was that my basic problem was my focus. I wanted to see myself rightly. I wanted to give up the lies and believe what God said about me. (BTW, Josh MacDowell used to have a book on this topic that was excellent!)
To make a long story short, it wasn't until I transferred my love from self to Jesus that the healing came. And then the healing no longer mattered because I was no longer the focus. Jesus became my focus, the love of my life, and my healing took its rightful place.
So perhaps one of the biggest lies of all is your friend's search for healing. She needs to seek Jesus, love Jesus, and come into the reality of His love. All else will pale in comparison. Turn your eyes upon Jesus. . .
Anyway, I've offered this in love. I'm praying it is helpful to you as you minister to your friend, Liveloved
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/15/2009 2:47:11 PM
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LiveLoved - I understand what you are saying and I'm thankful that you received healing. Praise God!
For this person, they have struggled for years trying to stop destructive behavior and making bad choices. They have been a Christian all this time, but the lies they believed caused them to have very low self-esteem and not very good judgment skills. Their focus in prayer for over 30 years was for guidance in their life so that they would stop making such poor choices and doing things that only made their life worse instead of better. They thought this was the way to pray. They have never understood why they made such poor choices based on their belief about themselves. It's very complicated and I don't want to give away their confidence in me. But when a person has no self-esteem and feels so badly about themselves, they just don't make good choices. Although they prayed for guidance and for help, they always seemed to get deeper into a troubled life full of problems and bad situations (nothing illegal, but very painful).
It has only been recently that they have questioned the REAL reasons why their entire life has been on this path no matter how hard they tried not to be. I guess I know as much about them as anyone does plus I have seen so many actions from them that even I couldn't understand. Yet I know how sincere they are and what a good person they are. No one can convince them that they are good, though.
I searched and studied for 3 or 4 weeks before I wrote this OP as the Theophostic Ministry seems to be the one that could help them with their particular problems the most. It seems that ministry focuses on the abused person whose life has been basically ruined because of the wrong path the abuse set them on. It changes a person's life and they go on a path that God did not intend for them to live. Until that person realizes and understands the original lie(s) that was created in their minds at the time of the abuse, they believe them to be the truth. This ministry seems to be able to help a person discover those original lies so that they know exactly what to pray for. Once they know what exactly needs to be healed, then they can pray for Jesus to destroy those lies and break the bondage of those lies.
Once again I feel like I am struggling to find the correct words to describe what I have read and understand, plus what I know about this person. So far I truly believe this ministry is the one that will help them in the way that they need to be helped.
They probably have focused on themselves, but in the wrong area. With the help of Theophostic Ministry, they can learn to focus on the right things - NOT their present behavior or tendency to make really bad choices; but WHY they do that. The reasons why from the very beginning.
Does that make sense?
Unless I read proof of Unbiblical teachings associated with this ministry, I think I will search for a local place that uses this and recommend it to them. I will do so with much prayer. I sincerely want true healing through Jesus (only) for them.
P.S. I have received some PMs from people who received great help and full healing through Theophostic Ministry. They all say that they do not want to post on here because (1) they do not want to share such personal information, and (2) they fear criticism from other posters. I wish that they would post, though. If nothing but to give a positive testimony. However, I very much appreciate the PMs.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/15/2009 4:07:03 PM
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Well, Teacher, I do pray the best for you. If the Lord truly is leading you toward this ministry to help your friend, then I pray it works out for them, and they can be healed emotionally and spiritually.
One question I do have though is are they really saved..? Many people can claim to be saved, actually believe they are, but are not. That might be something to look into for your benefit; in case they are not you can lead them to true life in Christ.
Also, depending on how God 'wired' them, basically their inborn temperament, might play a big part in this as well. If they have behaviours that seek pity or any type of attention, then that needs to be addressed. No matter what type of counseling you put them through, if they have that tendency, they will always resort back to that.
Just some thoughts.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/15/2009 5:10:40 PM
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Thank you Iron for your thoughts and concern.
Actually, this person led me to Jesus. I wish that they could see their good influence on others, their strength in time of great troubles, their wisdom and knowledge of the Word, and how many people look up to them. They can't see it, though, because they feel like they are a bad person and not worthy of anything good. They feel like they have failed at every single thing all of their lives. I will say that this is some of the statements that their abusers said to them for years and years and years.
I will think more about my times with them and if they seem to seek pity or attention, but my first reaction is that they actually reject sympathy of any kind, plus credit or compliments. They honestly have nothing good to say about themselves and feel so totally defeated in every way. They feel like a total failure although many people, including me, tell them that they are not. However, I think that I am the only person who knows how deeply their hurt and pain really is and the root cause of that pain. Talking about and admitting abuse is hard to do for the victim. They are ashamed and feel as though it is their fault and something is wrong with them to have been treated that way - like they deserved it or wasn't good enough to be treated any other way or protected from the abuse by those that should have protected them. In their case - their parents. The very persons that should have protected them, did just the opposite.
I appreciate the comments, suggestions, beliefs and opinions by everyone. If you have time, please say a prayer for them and for me. I want to help and be a good "guide" toward a way of receiving their total healing. But I also know that without the help of Jesus, I can do nothing and neither can a counselor. All I can do is pray, love and support; and try to have faith.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/15/2009 6:13:26 PM
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the root cause of that pain
Bless you, dear friend to this wounded one. Yes, they have been abused. And they have believed lies. But the root cause is not the lie or lies but their failure to believe the truth, what Jesus says about them.
We can have a very low opinion of ourselves (as I did) yet it really is an exalted opinion because we are taking our word, our thought, what we believe about ourselves and exalting it above what God says. This is what I did for many years. And it sounds like it is the path your friend is on as well.
The freedom will come as they give their heart to Jesus and choose to believe what He says and reject what they think is true. The 'I am' statements are a beautiful way of reminding ourselves of what God says about us, what is true, and a good exercise in casting down self thoughts we have lifted above God Himself.
Lord, I pray for teacher1982 and his wounded friend. You know the pain, the hurt, every lie and wrong thought involved. And Lord Jesus, You are the answer, the Healer, the healing balm this wounded soul needs. Lord, I pray you move mightily in these lives and bring to an end this life of unbelief. Bring this wounded one to rest, Lord. Bring them to the rest that knows You, trusts You, and believes Your every word. I pray they welcome You to make Your abode in them and with them so they know in their heart and their mind the reality of Jesus. By the power of the Holy Spirit that brought You out of the grave, Lord, do this for this one You love and died to bring full redemption to. We praise You, Lord, for this awesome work of love You will accomplish in Jesus' name. Amen.
Praying on, teacher, and believing for the miracle! LL
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/18/2009 12:26:50 AM
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Peloton
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A definition from one of my New Age books concerning the Theosophical Society: "Based on occultism based on mistry religions and Hindu philosophy found on the writing of Helena Petrovena Blouatsky, a 19th century Russian mystic."
Born in 1831, she exhibited psychic abilities at an early age. She in involved with astral projection and claims to have contacted disembodied spiritual masters she called mahatmas. She promotes supernatural dematerializations, trance mediumship, and spiritual manifestation. Her book "The Secret of Doctrine" is considered the Theosophical canon.
No thanks, I'll take Jesus.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/18/2009 6:36:55 AM
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singpeace
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Thank you. See, we need each other so we can find the truth. I wanted to know more about it, but sometimes you really have to dig.
I'm not going to rush into anything that I am not familiar with. I have a caution light on in my gut over this, but don't know why. All I read on that website was in line with the Word, but I can't shake the little hitch I feel. That's when I know the Holy Spirit is warning me to be careful. I love that and the fact that we all seem to want to find answers and are willing to search.
Seek, keep on seeking, then seek some more, and you shall find.
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Psalm 123:1 Unto You do I lift up my eyes, O You Who are enthroned in heaven.
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RE: Theophostic Ministry - 10/18/2009 6:43:40 AM
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singpeace
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Teacher,
Is your friend married? If so, does the spouse tend to touch her wounds with ease?
I know someone just like that. She has a loving husband but he is human and not always thinking about how words and body language hurt. It's like she knows so deeply that she is worthless, a certain attitude from him confirms it for her.
It is the most horrible kind of thing I can think to do to a child and has been like torment for her at times. She fights it every single day and has the closest, most confident relationship with the Lord of anyone I know.
I would just love to find some answers.
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Psalm 123:1 Unto You do I lift up my eyes, O You Who are enthroned in heaven.
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