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Saturday October 24th, is our last "for now" ... - 10/22/2009 10:10:20 PM
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CMT8808
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I received this e-mail from a person who claims they are Holy spirit filled, not to mention that they chastized me, because I do not believe Allah and Jehovah are the same God as they claim. They claim they are a participant ot a baptist, bible believing church, so why would they try to pass this off as part of God's word? I know how I want to respond, however I really have to pray about it, because my nostrils are flaring like a heavy breathing dragon about now! Does any of this, what is written sound bibical to you? I am not a scholar by any means, so am asking you, Thanx CMT quote:
So, we say, your current financial affairs could be not good. You could have more bills than you have income. You could have people hounding you on the telephone or beating on your door every day… And we say, so that’s what-is; that’s the action journey that you are upon. But you could have that financial condition percolating along and you could feel hopeful, or, you could have that condition percolating along and you could feel fearful. And the difference between fearful and hopeful is the difference between things improving for you. This is a Vibrational Universe and you are Vibrational Beings. You don’t set your radio dial on 630 AM and expect to hear what’s being broadcast on 98.6 FM. You understand you’ve got to line those frequencies up, and so you do. You don’t stubbornly set it on the station that you don’t want to hear and then demand that the laws of physics change so that you can hear it anyway, without you doing anything about it… You can’t be beating the drum of things gone wrong—and offering a vibration about things going wrong—and be in the vibrational place of receiving what you are wanting. Make peace with wherever you stand. And here’s the most important part: When you feel despair, or anything that doesn’t feel good, and you reach for a thought that feels better, what comes right along with that is a conscious awareness that you do have some control of your experience. And friends, we cannot emphasize enough the importance of that conscious awareness that you can do something about the way you feel. When you choose a thought that feels better than the thought that you were choosing before, and you consciously acknowledge that you had the power to choose it, and that you did choose it, and that it did change your vibrational frequency— now, there’s no place you cannot go. Now, that cloud of despair, that cloud of not being able to control your own experience goes away. There is not anything that any of you want—whether it’s a material object, a state of being, a relationship, a circumstance or event… there’s nothing that you have ever wanted or anybody you've ever known has ever wanted—that is for any other reason than you think you will feel better in the having of it… And when you show yourself that you can feel better just because you've decided that you want to feel better, and that you have the power to choose a thought that feels better, now, you're on your way. And there’s nowhere that you cannot go along this Emotional Scale. And when you make it up there into the consistent range of feeling pretty darn wonderful, then wonderful things become the basis of your experience. Sometimes well-meaning people will encourage you to get happy faster than you can. And the reason that we say that is because, as we said earlier, you cannot put your radio dial on 630 AM and hear what’s being broadcast on 98.6 FM; the frequencies have to match up. And if you are in despair, or fear, or anger, you can’t jump all the way into bliss; you can’t even get a whiff of bliss. It’s a different vibrational frequency. So, what we have noticed as we’ve been watching you, we notice that when you try to jump from anger or despair all the way to bliss, you don’t make the jump; you can’t possibly do it. And it’s not because you’re not good; it’s because Law of Attraction is not going to give you access to thoughts or memories or experiences, or other people, that’s very far from where you are offering your vibration. It is so important that you decide today (well, you can decide tomorrow; you can decide any time you want to, but it will be important to you when you make this decision) that you’re not going to try to jump frequencies… It doesn’t matter where you are; you can move gradually into increasingly better places. The thing that is so important is that you, now, once and for all, make a decision that the relativity you’re going to be aware of is only going to be the relationship between how I am feeling, and how I want to feel. In other words, My dominant intent is to find the best-feeling thoughts that I can find from where I am. Not the best-feeling thought I’ve ever thought, or not the best-feeling thought that anybody has ever thought, but just the best-feeling thought that I have access to, right now. Decide, really soon, that you are not going to compare your emotional state with anybody else’s, because their emotional state is only about their emotional state; it doesn’t have anything to do with you. Your friend that says, "Cheer up; be happy; come with me," say to your friend, "I was depressed yesterday, and today I’m really, really angry. And it’s the best I can do. So, don’t ask me to jump up there in your bright, fluffy, sunshine, lollipop and roses vibration; it’s not possible. It’s a quantum leap I cannot make. Go away, unless you like to be around an angry person." Decide that you’re going to be aware of how you feel, and that how you feel really matters, and feel exhilaration when your vibration shifts. When you move from despair or fear into anger, we want you to have a triumphant feeling of celebration because that was enormous, important movement, vibrationally, and because once you get angry, you can move rather quickly into frustration, and when you find that fresh breath of air that frustration gives you, we want you to stop and celebrate your achievement—but you’re not going to be able to do that if you are trying to compare yourself with where others are…. Your creativity, has only to do with your relationship with the Source Energy that creates worlds. And your emotions tell you everything you need to know about that relationship. So, it doesn’t matter how happy somebody else is; it only matters how happy you are. Do you know how, in the classroom, they’ll give you an A for this behavior, and a B for this behavior, or an E, or an F for that behavior. And so, you begin to think that somebody up there in joy and appreciation should get the A, and somebody down here in depression should get the E or the F. And what we want to say to you is, when you move from depression or fear into anger, give yourself an A, because that movement means everything. What it means is, you’ve shifted enough vibrationally that you now have access to a whole other range of thoughts and experiences. And, of course, you do not want to get stuck there in anger, but from anger you have a prayer of reaching frustration, where you can’t usually find yourself in the fresh breath of air that frustration is from despair or from fear; it’s too much of a vibrational jump. If you’ll look back into your experience, you will begin to notice (and we don’t want you to look back too much, but just begin to viscerally feel around) that emotions are always coming in response to what you are giving your attention to. And with far less effort than it takes to learn QuickBooks on your computer, you’re going to discover that you can be in control of the way you feel, which means, you now have mastered the Art of Allowing. That means, no matter what’s going on around you, you have discovered a way to feel good and remain in Connection, and when you’ve discovered that—then Well-Being must follow you everywhere you go. Esther talked to a friend who’s a magnificent counselor, (using many of the techniques that Abraham has offered over the years with her clients) and she says, "I tell my clients, ‘find the eye of your hurricane and stay there.’" And Esther said, "I sort of like that. When you think about all the things that are going on in the world that could be upsetting to you, but there is this calm here where I am. In other words, I don’t have to change the world; the world doesn’t have to change for me." Do you know that is truly what the meaning of unconditional love is? Most people, when they see conditions that make them feel bad—they just feel bad. And when they see something that makes them feel good—they just feel good. And then they conclude, "We’ve got to control the conditions." And so, they make laws, and they get all kinds of patrollers, and they get all kinds of people that then try to enforce the laws because they believe that if they could just control these conditions, then they would never have to look at anything that upsets them again. But then you discover that the tsunami will come, and that there aren’t laws or rules, or armies, that can stop that. Or the hurricane will come, or the earthquake will come… In other words, there’s always going to be something that is going to challenge your idea that you can control circumstances. You cannot control circumstances. You never intended to control circumstances. You intended to discover unconditional love. You intended to discover a way to feel good, no matter what, because you have the facility; you have the power; you have the ability to focus. You have the ability to choose where you focus, therefore, you have the ability to offer vibration deliberately, therefore, you have the ability to choose the way you feel. But it takes some practice. As you practice, every day, something will happen and you will feel it viscerally in your body. Somebody says something or does something, or you see something on television, and then you’ve got to stop, right then, and you have to say, Nothing is more important than that I feel good. And, right now, I’m going to do my best to find the best-feeling thought that I can find. Now, sometimes, you can change the subject. It’s easy to change the subject. Or, you could meditate; just quiet your mind; put your brain on pause; that makes you feel better immediately, too. But if there are circumstances that are hammering you, things that come up often: somebody in your experience that is there every day, or often, if there’s something happening in your experience that you consistently feel bad about, then you’ve got some work to do on this Emotional Scale. Once you show yourself that that person, or that circumstance, does not have to change for you to move from fearful up to hopeful, or from despair up to anger to frustration… once you show yourself that nothing has to change, in terms of the action journey, for you to have real movement in the emotional journey, once you show yourself that, then watch what happens to your action journey. Once you shift; once you beat that drum; once it settles in; once you find the groove of that, once you are there, once you’ve shifted that belief, once you’ve modified that vibration (far less effort than you think), everything will begin to shift in your experience. So, contrast causes you to offer rockets of desire. The desire is nowhere near where you’re vibrating. So, you’ve given birth to an idea of something you want that you are not a vibrational match to it. So, you do your best to find thoughts that feel closer and closer and closer to it. And when you begin to feel the elation that you will feel when that manifests, even before it manifests, now, it must manifest, and it must manifest fast. That’s why we asked you that all-important question as we began. Do those unfulfilled desires please you? And some of you lie and say yes, some of you say no. But we want you to work on getting to the place where you say, "Yes, I love this unfulfilled desire! I love knowing that there’s something in the offing for me. I love knowing that it’s out there percolating, and I love doing my work, which is, gradually, gently, consistently bringing myself into vibrational alignment with it." When it feels like the next logical step—then it comes right in. So your work, as you stand in the absence of something wanted, is to pretend it, to imagine it, to become so familiar with the essence of what it would feel like when it comes, that even though it hasn’t come, you still feel good. (You get this?) Even though my lover hasn’t come yet, I’m excited about the idea of my lover coming. I’m anticipating. I feel excited about it. But if I’m depressed, if I’m discouraged, if "all the good ones are taken," then, it’s not the next logical step.
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RE: Saturday October 24th, is our last "for now&qu... - 10/22/2009 10:23:14 PM
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Grey_1
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That person doesn't use the same bible I do, for sure. The first thought that came to mind was an old acquaintance of mine who was delving heavily into new age type stuff.
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RE: Saturday October 24th, is our last "for now&qu... - 10/22/2009 11:06:43 PM
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Unless I knew the person on a personal level I would not reply at all. This person is obviously NOT a Christian. They are deep into New Age nonsense and they are SO confused that little you could say would be even understood by them. If you know them, pray for their salvation. If not, just cast it off as a fishing expedition. Don't take the hook.
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RE: Saturday October 24th, is our last "for now&qu... - 10/24/2009 4:57:05 PM
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ThursdaysChild
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Head for the hills...FAST!
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RE: Saturday October 24th, is our last "for now&qu... - 10/26/2009 2:09:16 AM
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CMT, I didn't read the quote on your original post so I'm not sure exactly how much info about "Abraham" is in there. I just want you to be aware, if you are not, that "Abraham" has nothing to do with the Abraham in the Bible. It is actually a "spirit" and Hicks is it's medium. My sister, who is into all kinds of new age, etc, introduced me to this book once and I actually thought, at first, that it was referring to Abraham from the Bible. Anyway, that should leave no question in your mind as to what to do with this teaching. I'm a little concerned because your post seems to say that this is being taught at your church. Or is it your friend's church? That's very sad that Christian churches these days have drifted so far from God's Word in the name of "peace" or "relevance" You know, when you read this stuff, a lot of it looks like good common sense, and perhaps pop psychology. It does seem harmless, I guess but it's one of those things that can suck you in with the bait of a few morsels of "enlightening truth" and get you to swallow a big fat lie (hmmm reminds me of a story about a piece of fruit in a garden...). I was just checking out their website and saw a video posted titled, "Satan and Santa". Basically what "Abraham" (dressed as Hicks ) says is that people made Satan up (just what he wants us to believe, huh?), and that God is much too powerful for us to ever have to worry about him. Here is an example of such a morsel. While it is true that God is Sovereign, He also warns us to be on our guard against our enemy. To say we have no such enemy is pure folly; in fact these people listening to her are falling right into his hands. Sad.
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