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RE: Car Seat laws - 11/7/2009 10:05:40 PM
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OneOfHisJewels
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I can't get my stupid avatar to change, or my siggy for that matter.
She is quite comfy, she is a kid who likes her legs close to her body(I'm the same way) so it works perfectly for her.
Ryanne, are you remembering to click apply when you do it? We had a few trial runs just now, and finally realized that was our mistake.
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RE: Car Seat laws - 11/8/2009 11:44:29 AM
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Mrs.Wifey
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ORIGINAL: Mrs.Wifey
I can't get my stupid avatar to change, or my siggy for that matter.
She is quite comfy, she is a kid who likes her legs close to her body(I'm the same way) so it works perfectly for her.
Ryanne, are you remembering to click apply when you do it? We had a few trial runs just now, and finally realized that was our mistake.
Yup, it's giving me repeated runtime errors and has for a couple weeks now.
Ruth, I would support legislation that required rearfacing until 2 years or 40lbs, with a minimum age of 12 months for those who are gigantic. Of course, then we would have to have more carseats available with a 40lb rearfacing limit. The current 3 available wouldn't be enough.
But really, what I would prefer to see is proper carseat education as a mandatory pre-release video at the hospital or during childbirth classes.
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RE: Car Seat laws - 11/8/2009 4:42:45 PM
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Sideways
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I'm curious why a lot of these guidelines focus on weight rather then height. Is weight really more of a critical factor? My oldest niece probably won't hit 40lbs until Kindergarten or even later, but she's a decent height for her age, just really slender. I can't imagine a Kindergartener still rear facing.
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RE: Car Seat laws - 11/9/2009 9:15:06 AM
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KaptZ
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Disturbing how many times I see young kids, even with the seatbelt/carseat laws running(literally) around the inside of the minivans in front of me.
Or commuting to work down the highway at around 70-75 and having to pull over to let a minivan, with a 'baby on board' sticker and kids jumping around insided, pass me at about 95 mph. 
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RE: Car Seat laws - 11/9/2009 9:17:53 AM
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I'm curious why a lot of these guidelines focus on weight rather then height. Is weight really more of a critical factor? My oldest niece probably won't hit 40lbs until Kindergarten or even later, but she's a decent height for her age, just really slender. I can't imagine a Kindergartener still rear facing.
That was our problem with Thing 1. He was very skinny but grew taller and it would have just been uncomfortable for him to be rear facing.
I remember what a pain it was to stuff him in his seat with his legs smooshed up. He didn't like me too much. 
I don't remember what the law was for rear facing back then but I do know he was facing forward before he was a year old.
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RE: Car Seat laws - 11/9/2009 12:15:13 PM
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Mrs.Wifey
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ORIGINAL: Sideways
I'm curious why a lot of these guidelines focus on weight rather then height. Is weight really more of a critical factor? My oldest niece probably won't hit 40lbs until Kindergarten or even later, but she's a decent height for her age, just really slender. I can't imagine a Kindergartener still rear facing.
It really is more age, not weight or height, that plays into the development of the spine and it's ability to withstand the impact of a front end collision.
Cervical vertebrae(age 1 on the left, age 6 on the right)
Thoracic Vertebrae(again, age 1 on the left, age 6 on the right)
Lumbar Vertebrae(same order as above)
If you notice the vertebrae in the 1 year old are still in separate pieces and have not yet fused together. The fusing of the bone is what gives the spinal column it's ability to withstand a traumatic force. The vertebrae don't start fusing until about 3 years of age, so optimal rearfacing would be until around age 4. It's also why it's better to keep your kids in a 5-pt harness for as long as possible since the force is then distributed a bit more evenly.
I frequently read a carseat safety forum and there honestly aren't many kids who complain about their legs. DD is tall, in the 95% for height and she still has a good amount of room depending on the carseat she is in... She has less room in the Marathon then she does in the True Fit, which has a much larger shell.
< Message edited by Mrs.Wifey -- 11/9/2009 12:23:37 PM >
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RE: Car Seat laws - 11/9/2009 3:32:38 PM
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The law here just changed recently, and as such DD requires a booster.
HOWEVER: As a former medic, my children have ridden in car seats far longer than most. There's nothing quite like picking up a child who has been ejected from a tumbling car b/c they slid underneath a seat belt that was not designed for them to make you evaluate your perspective on convenience and space inside your car.
My son is 12 and only in the last year did he "graduate" from a car seat. He is pretty lean, and did not have the body mass to protect him from the seat belt in it's natural position during an impact.
My baby girl is 9, and weighs 65lbs. The law here says she must ride in a car seat until she weighs 80lbs, and she will. If she isn't tall enough, then she'll ride in it longer.
I have seen minor injuries associated with car seats - typically when a child is too tall and their head extends above the back of the car seat rest, or in a booster, the seat rest. But for the most part, car seats are a WISE choice for any parent.
Safety and protection of the child should always be first. Convenience and space is a factor most parents will eventually regret in the event that their child is injured.
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RE: Car Seat laws - 11/10/2009 3:12:45 PM
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I wish that they made boosters with a longer seat for tall kids, especially for vehicles that where the seat belts don't fit quite right and don't have head rests that support the head. I do not like the way they fit my 12 year old, but he is too big for a booster with backrest.
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RE: Car Seat laws - 11/11/2009 12:19:26 AM
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thisistheday
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Sarah, did your kids complain about being hot in the safety vests in the summer? I think we need one. Our harnessed carseat doesn't install well in one of our vehicles, and I'd rather not use it any more. R is six, but I'm good with keeping her harnessed. A different carseat would most likely be too big for the car when I've got 3 kids in the back seat. I also like the option of using it without the shoulder belt. Is their mobility more limited in the vest than when strapped into a harnessed carseat? Thanks!
Dee
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RE: Car Seat laws - 11/12/2009 12:22:32 AM
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thisistheday
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Thanks for answering my questions Sarah!
I wanted to say that my youngest was rearfacing in her carseat until age 3, or nearly so. We turned her only because she was too tall, or too heavy to remain rearfacing in that seat; I don't remember which. She never complained about rearfacing all that time; she learned to let her legs hang over the carseat or fold them over in front of her. She is a pretty average size child. After we turned her she talked about liking it when she sat backwards.
Dee
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