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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 6:53:58 PM
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PinkCarnations
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I've sat here for the better part of 45 minutes trying to figure out how to word this post. Anything else I'd have to say would be dripping with sarcasm, anger and negativity. Therefore, I'm saying goodnight. {{{{{{{{{{Roberta}}}}}}}}}}
Hugs to everyone else too. I'm doing well today. I'm sure that part of it is my new toy. I don't think I posted here last night that I got a new phone that is also an organizer, webbrowser, camera, voice recorder, etc. I've signed a three-year contract but my previous palmtops (which this is replacing) always lasted four years or more so I'm not worried. Just so long as I don't lose it or get it wet. That would not be good. But I haven't lost a palmtop yet either so I figure I've got a good track record.
When I first got mine, I seldom put it down. I used it for almost everything except a phone.
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I sure lose a lot of other things though--my Norwegian wool sweater that cost more than my phone, a beaver hair neck warmer, Norwegian wool hat, alpaca wool scarf, innumerable pairs of gloves. Hmmmm. I'm noticing a pattern here. They're all cold-weather items. I'll bet it happens during the change in seasons when going out in the cold isn't cold enough that I realize I've left something behind. I have a full rest-of-the-day but I'm looking forward to each part. Aside from my new phone,
Maybe it means that you just don't like winter. 
More panic attacks today.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 7:13:00 PM
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Maybe it means that you just don't like winter. Or that she loves the coming spring?
It sounds as though I'm saying the same thing, but it's the use of words that make a difference. I do believe that it helps if we can use as many positive words as we can. Years back, someone told me that we needed to learn from Scripture when times were ok and good (not just talking mental health) because that is what we leant on when times were bad. Couldn't it be said that 'ordinary' words could have the same effect on us?
No, it's not easy putting into practice, but it's perhaps worth considering?
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Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 7:19:12 PM
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Maybe it means that you just don't like winter. Or that she loves the coming spring?
It sounds as though I'm saying the same thing, but it's the use of words that make a difference. I do believe that it helps if we can use as many positive words as we can. Years back, someone told me that we needed to learn from Scripture when times were OK and good (not just talking mental health) because that is what we learnt on when times were bad. Couldn't it be said that 'ordinary' words could have the same effect on us?
No, it's not easy putting into practice, but it's perhaps worth considering?
I have a hard enough time getting my point across these days without learning new ways of communicating. I do tend to talk more optimistically than I type, usually.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 7:28:04 PM
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It sounds as though I'm saying the same thing, but it's the use of words that make a difference. I do believe that it helps if we can use as many positive words as we can. Years back, someone told me that we needed to learn from Scripture when times were ok and good (not just talking mental health) because that is what we leant on when times were bad. Couldn't it be said that 'ordinary' words could have the same effect on us?
I am in absolute agreement with you here - "words of life, rather than words of death", which is how the preacher put it at church a couple of Sundays ago. He was speaking about Christ coming to "set the captive free", and listed a number of "prisons", one being a prison of "words of death" being spoken over us by other, or even by ourselves over ourselves or others. It was very powerful.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 7:52:49 PM
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Kinda like viewing the glass as half full instead of half empty, right? I would probally see life differently if I made attempts to think of things that way. I believe I am more of a pessimist instead of an optimist. Not something I am real proud of. I think it depends more of how my day is going. Today is not a real good day for me...
Roberta, I have had you on my mind a lot today. You are in my prayers, sister. As is the rest of you. Did your neighbor make it back home safely?
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Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 8:01:22 PM
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Did your neighbor make it back home safely?
Yes he did. Thanks for asking. I had a strange sensation earlier today. His dd is with him right now. She had her grandchildren out in the back yard and she was playing with them. She is almost the spitting image of her mom. For about a second there I thought it was her mom out there playing with the kids. It was really strange.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 8:15:14 PM
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I know exactly what you felt, Roberta. Something very similiar happened to me. I use to take a wonderful woman to church with me. She got cancer and after a long battle, she succombed. A few weeks ago I was sitting in church and turned around in the pew. For a brief moment I thought I saw her! Of course, it was not her but her sister. Very freaky feeling indeed.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 8:24:41 PM
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Kinda like viewing the glass as half full instead of half empty, right? Yep.
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I would probally see life differently if I made attempts to think of things that way. I believe I am more of a pessimist instead of an optimist. I don't know if I'm a pessermist or an optimist. I am not sure that it really matters though. I'm learning slowly to change the way I think about things.
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Not something I am real proud of. I don't think of things that I'm proud of or not proud of very often. They just are and they are that way until I'm able to change them.
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I think it depends more of how my day is going. Today is not a real good day for me... I'm sorry you're not having a good day. I haven't had a good week so far. I've decided what steps that I need to take though and will do those tomorrow if I'm not feeling better.
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Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 8:32:56 PM
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I know exactly what you felt, Roberta. Something very similiar happened to me. I use to take a wonderful woman to church with me. She got cancer and after a long battle, she succombed. A few weeks ago I was sitting in church and turned around in the pew. For a brief moment I thought I saw her! Of course, it was not her but her sister. Very freaky feeling indeed.
That would be strange too.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 8:49:43 PM
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Hi, everybody!
Roberta, I've not had full-blown panic attacks, but I've had anxiety and paranoia attacks where I had to leave church or other public places, because I felt like someone was talking about me, or I just felt like a word meaning a certain hot place. It's nothing to be ashamed of, just something to be aware of and maybe bring up at your next pdoc or therapist appointment. Remember that God loves you and He'll help you overcome these things with His love, mercy and grace.
Maggie, congrats on getting the palm phone, balance ball and exiting that weight decade! These are great accomplishments and I hope that whenever you feel stressed out with family or mental health issues, remember that God will help you overcome anything in your life that interferes with His will for your life.
Manda, Elizabeth, Harvie, Melissa (without the cat), Aga, Mike and everyone else, how are you all doing today or tonight?
As for me, I'm doing fair. I didn't go to my Overcomers group today, because I didn't feel like going. I was in pain, so I used that as an excuse, but I feel bad that I didn't go. I didn't go anywhere else either. I wonder if the grey, cloudy, cold weather's prompting me to isolate again.
I'm eating better today, except for too much sugar free ice cream, so I'm feeling okay with that. Otherwise, everything's okay. Right now, I'm posting and listening to Southern Gospel music, while the rest of my family's watching that new science fictions series "V" on ABC. 
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Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 9:27:19 PM
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As for me, I'm doing fair. I didn't go to my Overcomers group today, because I didn't feel like going. I was in pain, so I used that as an excuse, but I feel bad that I didn't go. I didn't go anywhere else either. I wonder if the grey, cloudy, cold weather's prompting me to isolate again.
I'm sorry you're in pain and didn't go to your group. I know that I don't want to go anywhere when the weather is yucky out. We had a beautiful day today. I should've taken advantage of it.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 9:40:31 PM
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I'm not mad at you per se, I'm just mad. Right now I'm having a hard time even finding a temporary escape from problems that I must face on a daily basis and I have to deal with them alone.
Hi Roberta, is there a support group in your area? I go to one now and it has been a big help for the most part.
I am doing ok tonight, I am feeling a little bit discouraged though. There are some things happening at work that are just really getting the best of me! :( I work in a rather toxic work environment and lately I've been getting quite fed up with it.  Today I was praying/telling God "this is not fair!," when are you gonna repay the unfairness of my job?
I did get a call from a company that I applied to last week. We will see how it goes.
I also find it hard to de-stress after a long day at work. It was suggested to me last week that I want to consider taking a Yoga class. Has anyone else done this at all? What do you all do to relax after being stressed also?
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Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 9:49:16 PM
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I'm not mad at you per se, I'm just mad. Right now I'm having a hard time even finding a temporary escape from problems that I must face on a daily basis and I have to deal with them alone.
Hi Roberta, is there a support group in your area? I go to one now and it has been a big help for the most part.
I've never heard of a support group for panic disorders. I'm sure there is one out there somewhere. With how rural of an area I'm in, I know they wouldn't be too common.
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I am doing ok tonight, I am feeling a little bit discouraged though. There are some things happening at work that are just really getting the best of me! :( I work in a rather toxic work environment and lately I've been getting quite fed up with it. Today I was praying/telling God "this is not fair!," when are you gonna repay the unfairness of my job?
((((Mike)))) I'm sorry.
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I did get a call from a company that I applied to last week. We will see how it goes.
I will keep that in my prayers.
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I also find it hard to de-stress after a long day at work. It was suggested to me last week that I want to consider taking a Yoga class. Has anyone else done this at all? What do you all do to relax after being stressed also?
I like to journal. First off I usually journal about whatever I'm stressing about the most. Then I journal praises/prayer requests. Sometimes I just try to spend time alone with God and listen to what He has to say.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/3/2009 9:58:03 PM
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Thank you Roberta! The night before I had my anxiety attack last week, I had gone to my support group the night before. They could all tell that I was quite tapped out!
I do go to a Bible Study too, which helps me also.
I have regular individual counseling appointments too.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/4/2009 12:09:11 AM
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I'm not mad at you per se, I'm just mad. Right now I'm having a hard time even finding a temporary escape from problems that I must face on a daily basis and I have to deal with them alone.
It's OK to be mad. I understand that some days we are more accepting and appreciative of the advice that others offer to us because they truly care about us. On the other hand, there are other days when every suggestion just feels like one more thing somebody expects of you and it's the last thing you want to hear. Let's face it, those of us who have mental health problems often lack the proper perspective that would allow us to deal with things in a more constructive manner. But that's also part of the illness.
It kind of struck me the other day how easy it is to give advice, but how hard it can be to take advice, even our own. The main problem is that the person it is hardest to see clearly is ourselves.
We are all likely to be cranky and angry and frustrated now and again. As Christians, let's give each other a little space to express that here. The support and prayer offered here is marvelous and encouraging, but we can sometimes become a little rigid in our approach (probably because we've feeling a little uptight ourselves at the moment).
(((((Roberta)))))
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/4/2009 12:37:00 AM
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Balance balls are supposed to be good for posture aren't they? Yes, and building/exercising the core muscles, which I take to mean the ones in the trunk--they are used to keep balance and posture while sitting on a less-than-secure seat. And if I'm bouncing and stuff, that exercises my legs. I haven't watched the DVD that came with it. Ds2 has a book that came with his (believe it or not, there are four of these in the house, each with a separate owner, each one purple in colour--but mine is much smaller than the boys') and I may look at that. I like text more than video.
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That's great Maggie. I like the way you phrase it. Thanks!
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When I first got mine, I seldom put it down. I used it for almost everything except a phone. Well, the palmtop the phone is replacing, I used in the fifth year as much as I did in the first. I would have a hard time living without one.
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Or that she loves the coming spring? Actually, I love winter and dislike spring.
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Gosh... I knew what your preacher said and I wasn't even at your church!
I've impressed even myself! LOL!
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I know exactly what you felt, Roberta. Something very similiar happened to me. I use to take a wonderful woman to church with me. She got cancer and after a long battle, she succombed. A few weeks ago I was sitting in church and turned around in the pew. For a brief moment I thought I saw her! Of course, it was not her but her sister. Very freaky feeling indeed. That happened to me when I saw one of my great-aunts for the first time in years, maybe decades. She opened the door and for a minute I thought it was my grandma, her sister. When my grandma was alive, I thought they looked totally different, but I guess not as much as it seemed.
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Maggie, congrats on getting the palm phone, balance ball and exiting that weight decade! These are great accomplishments and I hope that whenever you feel stressed out with family or mental health issues, remember that God will help you overcome anything in your life that interferes with His will for your life. Thanks Melissa-with-cat (can't call you "Catty Melissa")! I know the truth of what you say but I don't always feel it.
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I didn't feel like going. I was in pain, so I used that as an excuse, but I feel bad that I didn't go. I didn't go anywhere else either. I wonder if the grey, cloudy, cold weather's prompting me to isolate again. :( {{{{{{{{{{{Melissa-with-cat}}}}}}}}} ("Catted Melissa" might work).
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Hi Roberta, is there a support group in your area? I go to one now and it has been a big help for the most part. Mike, I remember when you didn't think you'd ever go to something like that. I'm glad it's been helping you.
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I also find it hard to de-stress after a long day at work. It was suggested to me last week that I want to consider taking a Yoga class. Has anyone else done this at all? What do you all do to relax after being stressed also? I would advise against yoga. Part of the practice of yoga is the Eastern philosophy/religion. In any list that I've encountered about ways one might participate in the occult, yoga is included. You risk allowing demonic strongholds to built in or around you. Find something else. Get a membership to a gym or a spa. Soaking in a whirlpool would help you destress. {{{{{{Mike}}}}}}
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I like to journal. First off I usually journal about whatever I'm stressing about the most. Then I journal praises/prayer requests. Sometimes I just try to spend time alone with God and listen to what He has to say That's awesome, Roberta! Good idea! Good for you!
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The night before I had my anxiety attack last week, I had gone to my support group the night before. They could all tell that I was quite tapped out!
I do go to a Bible Study too, which helps me also.
I have regular individual counseling appointments too. Wow, Mike! You've been getting really involved with things. That is so awesome! I remember when you had no contacts with anyone except here online and at work. I'm so pleased with what's happening in your life.
So, this has been a full evening. I took ds3 to his doctor's appointment, but I couldn't stay because I was meeting someone for coffee. This young woman goes to my church. I met her elsewhere a few years ago but we never had any one-on-one conversations until a couple of months ago she came for prayer during the ministry time after church. I was amazed to see her. So, this weekend I got an e-mail from her, asking about ds3 and how he's doing. I'm not sure how she knows about him. She must be part of the prayer line. In any case, she's been praying for him for months and wanted to know how he's doing. After a few short e-mails back and forth she suggested we meet for coffee. I've thought of her as a ditzy, not-quite-all-there kind of girl but maybe not. She's been trained as a creative writing mentor and, as YWAM staff, took a team of nine people to South Africa for eight months. I would never have guessed it. She thinks we have a lot in common and hopes we can become friends. That would be cool.
We chatted for too long, so I had to rush to the other end of the city for small group. After we'd sung for a while, it was suggested we pray. The past several times, we've divided up into small groups to pray but there weren't too many present so we decided to do it as one group. I asked for prayer for ds3--who today has not beeing doing very well. As they started to pray, I began to bawl my head off (I've learned how to do this silently, thankfully). People just kept praying and praying and praying. One man laid hands on me, another anointed me and that second guy (nearly old enough to be my dad and very fatherly) later came up and talked to me privately about guilt he sensed in me.
I'm not conscious of any but then as he continued to talk, I thought about the generational history of suicide and mental illness--my dad killed himself, my step-brother killed himself, my sister killed herself. I myself have been suicidal. I started crying again--I think in part because of how cared about and loved I felt. It boggles my mind that these people care. They don't know me. They know bits about me but that's it. I know I could write out a very logical explanation about why they are so loving, but I still have to say that I don't understand. Why should they care? Yet they do. How can that be? It seems unbelievable.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/4/2009 12:38:46 AM
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Edith! YOu posted while I was taking my time writing my post. I like what you said. Very good!
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement - One Stop Thread - 11/4/2009 1:12:24 AM
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Edith! YOu posted while I was taking my time writing my post. I like what you said. Very good!
Thanks
I'm glad your coffee klatch with your young friend went so well. It's amazing, isn't it, how we can have such unfair "first impressions" or whatever about someone. Sounds like she's an interesting young woman.
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I'm not conscious of any but then as he continued to talk, I thought about the generational history of suicide and mental illness--my dad killed himself, my step-brother killed himself, my sister killed herself. I myself have been suicidal. I started crying again--I think in part because of how cared about and loved I felt. It boggles my mind that these people care. They don't know me. They know bits about me but that's it. I know I could write out a very logical explanation about why they are so loving, but I still have to say that I don't understand. Why should they care? Yet they do. How can that be? It seems unbelievable.
When we have trained ourselves to believe that we are not loved, are unlovable, it can be overpowering to have love poured on you like that. You were being cleansed from the outside in by them and your tears were cleansing you from the inside out.
I'm so glad that you've found a place where this kind of healing and growing can be shared in love like that.
Have a good night.
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