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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/3/2009 1:26:57 PM
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mikesayen
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here is a new one,
The Cure 4 Divorce
1 Cor 14:34 says the women are to be “submissive as also the Law says" speaking about their "husbands" in vs. 35 (Gen 3:16). Making the woman bound to the "law" of their husband 1 Cor 7:39, Rom 7:2-3. This is not the Law of Moses Rom 7:4.
Deut 24:1-4
The permission of Moses to “put away” their wives, only allowed for the man to initiate the divorce Deut 24:1 “When a man…”
Deut 24 vs. 1 When a man takes a wife and marries her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some uncleanness in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house, vs.2 when she has departed from his house, and goes and becomes another man’s wife, vs. 3 if the latter husband detests her and writes her a certificate of divorce, puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house, or if the latter husband dies who took her to be his wife, vs. 4 then her former husband who divorced her must not take her back to be his wife after she has been “defiled;” for that is an abomination before the Lord, and you shall not bring sin on the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance. NKJ version
Moses, apart from popular belief, did not allow the ungodly woman who did some “uncleanness” (“sexual immorality”) to remarry again but Moses was using the woman as an illustration to only give instruction to the men of Israel (“Then her former husband…” vs. 4). Jer 3:1, “They say…”
The “law of the husband” Rom 7:2, is seen in Deut 24:4 “after that she has been defiled.” For she committed “adultery” against the “law” of her husband, and is “called an adulteress” Rom 7:3, becoming now “defiled”.
The meaning of “law of husband”
Rom 7 vs. 1 Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives? Vs. 2 For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. Vs. 3 So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man; she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man. Vs. 4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another even to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. NKJ version
Under-man, woman
Rom 7:2 starts off by says in NKJV, “For the woman who has a husband…” but in actuality this sentence says in Greek, “For the under-man woman (wife) to the living man (husband) being bound law.”
The Law of submission Gen 3:16 “Husband desire, rule over you”
1 Cor 14:34, “but subject even as also the Law says” and to ask their “husbands” vs. 35 at home. The “law” also refers to the writings of the Prophets 1 Cor 14:21 “In the Law it has been written” (quoting the prophet Isa. 28:11). In addition, the “law” meant writings from the entire Old Testament...commentaries about what Law Paul was referring to in 1 Cor 14:34 all universally said referring to Gen 3:16. For the creation account spoken of Adam and Eve (1 Tim 2:13 and 1 Cor 11:2-12) in what the woman was created for “help meet” but the law of submission came from Gen 3:16.
Under-man is also used in 1 Cor 11:2-12, 1 Tim 2:13, Eph 5:22-33, Col 3:18. The woman was the innocent party, she would not be separated from the “law” that bound her to her husband (Matt 19:9b). After a divorce she may not be submissive to her husband any longer Num 30:9, but she is neither loosed/released from this “law”.
Law rule-of-thumb
When Paul says in Rom 7:1 “for I speak to those who know law (the Law of Moses),” referring to the general concept…“that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives (its governing principles)”. Paul goes on and states some other “laws” latter in scripture to also mean to have dominion over another: “another law” vs. 23, “law of sin” vs. 23, “law of God” vs. 25, “I find a law that is evil is present with me” vs. 21, “law of my mind” vs. 23, “law of Spirit” 8:2, “law of sin and death (Rom 5:21)” vs.3. And so was used the “law of husband” Rom 7:2-3.
Paul uses a physical truth “For…” Rom 7:2, to bring a conclusion “Therefore…” Rom 7:3, to explain the spiritual truth “So…” Rom 7:4. Though we “were made dead to the law (Law of Moses)” Rom 7:4 and are “not under law” Rom 6:15 any longer; we are “not without law to God” 1 Cor 9:21 but “under-law of Christ” (Gal 6:2). That is in the “law of liberty” James 1:25, 2:12. For living in the Spirit we fulfill the “righteousness of the law” Rom 8:4 the “law of God” 8:7.
Punishments of man
The “punishment” made the original designs of God now with pain. As much as the woman is still in the pain of childbearing, and the man still working by the sweat of his braw in the heat of the day, so is the woman still under the “rule” of her husband. We get the concept for the man to be head of his wife, and the woman to be submissive to her husband from both the creation account (Adam was formed first than Eve) and the punishment of the woman (Gen 3:16).
The letter to the Romans was written to “brethren”; both the Jews (chap 2-7 primary) and the Gentiles (Rom 11:13). The letter to the Romans was written after he wrote the letter to the Corinthians (aprox 1 year apart, Book of Acts).
Remarriage of the woman “Widow”
Paul tells this to the Gentile and Jewish Church in 1 Cor 7:39 “A woman has been bound by law for as long a time as lives the husband of her, if but “sleeps” the husband of her, free she is to who she desires to be married, only in the Lord” speaking to the Christian women. Further it was said, “Do not let a widow under sixty years old be taken into the number, and not unless she has been the wife of one man” 1 Tim 5:9. The “has been” in Greek shows once in her life time, or as long as a husband of her was still living. “But I say to the unmarrieds and the widows…” 1 Cor 7:8-9.
“Command/Charge”
1 Cor 7:10-11 all is wrapped up in this “command” by our “Lord” Jesus towards all Christians, “a woman is not to separate from her husband, if separated let her remain unmarried or reconcile with her husband.” And to the men, “a man is not to leave (some translations have dismiss) his wife”. These commands are for any reason or purpose. The reason Paul uses the word “separate” towards the woman is the Jew’s in the Church already taught the women did not have a right to ‘leave’ their husbands on account of ‘uncleanness’ according to the Law of Moses. For this was the main teaching of-the-day Matt 19:3 as spoken by the Pharisees and Scribes (Religions Rulers) to Jesus concerning divorce (Matt 19:9). Although possibly a few influential women “put away” their husbands (Mark 10:12) in that day.
Do not touch what is unclean
In 1 Cor 7:19 it spoke of “circumcision,” and 1 Cor 7:12-13 they were “leaving” their spouses due to the command of Ezra chap 9-10:3 (Nem 13:27) due to the “law” of marrying the 7 abominable Nations Deut 7:3-4 they drove out before them Nem 13:23-26, and not to “touch” what is “unclean” but to be “separate” from them Is. 52:11 (as 2 Cor 6:17). According to this their “children” would also be “unclean” (1 Cor 7:14) requiring according to the “law” to put away their children, as well Ezra 10:3. The Holy Spirit “sanctified” the spouses, making their children “holy”.
1 Cor 7:15 “Not in bondage”
The only ‘exception clause’ is said latter by Paul to the “rest” in 1 Cor 7:15 giving Christians permission to separate in “this case”, “If but the unbeliever separates, let be separated.” As long as the unbelievers were not willing to remain in the marriage, compared to the spouses where were in vs. 12-13. They have not “have-been-in-bondage” (one Greek word) for the responsibility to remain married in order to “save” them 1 Cor 7:16, but to let them go for ‘peace’ sake (“us”).
Matt 19:9
Matt 5 vs. 31 Furthermore it has been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ Vs. 32 But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery. NKJ version
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Matt 19 vs. 9 But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another commits adultery: And whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery. NKJ version
Only the Law of Moses gave permission to divorce a wife in Matt 19:9. Jesus only addressed the adultery in remarriage and causing the innocent party to commit adultery Matt 5:32. We are commanded as Gentiles to abstain from “sexual immorality” Acts 15:29 and that would include “adultery” in remarriage. Moses allowed them divorce because he realized the carnal mind is not subject to the Law of God, nor indeed can it be Rom 8:7 and when the Law came sin abounded. Jealousy is as the flames of fire (Songs of Sol.).
New Heart
Jesus said, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so” Matt 19:8. But we have been given a “new heart” Eze 36:26 and no longer live in the hardheartedness of sin for the reason to “put away” our wives, but to obey Christ in all righteousness.
“Be Holy”
We are commanded to be Holy as God is Holy. Jer 3:8, 9 He gives us His example of staying married when His wife Judah was unfaithful to Him (as 1 Cor 7:11b), and only divorcing Israel when she would not return to Him (as 1 Cor 7:15). We are not to follow the Law of Moses which gives us “permission” to put away our wives, but Christ alone. “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them” Gal 3:10. His who is without sin is to cast the first stone John 8:7.
Remarriage of the man “Loosed”
Paul acknowledges to be “loosed” as Deut 24:1-4 by saying if a man “has been bound to a wife seek not to be loosed/released” in 1 Cor 7:27. Stating a man can divorce his wife for the case of sexual immorality, but that a Christian man should not take advantage of this “permission” (though it would not be sexually immoral for him to do so). But if the man found himself divorced from his wife and “loosed or released” from her, according to scripture, then he may marry another while his wife was still living, and this would not be considered “sin” 1 Cor 7:28.
In Conclusion:
The wife being put under-man (Gen 3:16) in marriage, now falls under the law of her husband Rom 7:2, 1 Cor 7:39. The man in not under his wife (in submission) thus not being under the law to his wife. He was allowed divorce her if she broke the covenant to her husband (Jer 31:32) committing sexual immorality (in the marriage or by marrying another) and allowed to marry another (1 Cor 7:28). Only the woman is told to wait till the death of her husband (widow).
The woman commits adultery if she remarries being the innocent party after a divorce (Matt 19:9b) or the guilty one (Deut 24:4 “defiled”), before the death of her husband. The woman is not allowed to “put away” her husband even if he was guilty of breaking the covenant to her Hos 3:3. For Moses did not allow this permission to the women being she was put under-him in “submission” Gen 3:16.
(The Cure 4 Divorce - title by Stratton Wells) http://cure4divorcemichael.blogspot.com/
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And help from a word by a friend, Adam (knowingly or unknowingly, I am not sure).
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/8/2009 7:25:04 PM
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mikesayen
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sorry about the above, I was wrong on one point. the woman is not allowed to marry until the death of her husband or exhusband.. being bound by law as long as he lives. sorry, no exceptions.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/9/2009 4:49:11 PM
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Mike: "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/9/2009 5:09:14 PM
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This is not the "remarriage after divorce" thread. I think you are getting confused. Please keep this topic to divorce only. Thank you.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/9/2009 5:35:02 PM
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quote:
This is not the "remarriage after divorce" thread. I think you are getting confused. Please keep this topic to divorce only. Thank you.
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Oh I know. I was just highlighting the word divorce since mikesayen said it's impossible for a woman to divorce her husband.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/9/2009 5:36:18 PM
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And...sorry for replying to that. lol. Not great at reading instructions in red, apparently.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/10/2009 2:05:03 PM
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mikesayen
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sorry, I guess the large post twice before this one, was correct. a divorce, done properly, separated her completely from the husband, "she is not my wife, and I am not her husband" Hos 2:2.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 2/13/2009 1:56:44 PM
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Praise the Lord! What God has joined in "one flesh" let no man separate. :)
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 4/3/2009 1:34:00 AM
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What the Bible says about divorce
• Moses only allowed the man to divorce his wife Deut 24:1.
• The woman is not allowed to “separate” from her husband 1 Cor 7:10.
• If the woman separates she must “remain unmarried or reconcile with her husband” 1 Cor 7:11a.
The woman is bound of law since she is “under-man” to her living husband Rom 7:2a (from the Greek).
The woman was made “for” and “from” the man 1 Cor 11:8-9, “For Adam was formed first, then Eve” 1 Tim 2:13. The head of (“every”) woman is the man 1 Cor 11:3.
• If a woman were to marry another man while bound by the “law” to her living husband, she would commit adultery Rom 7:3 (shown in Deut 24:4 by the woman becoming “defiled” by marrying another man while her first husband is still “living”).
• Only the woman is said of a “widow” before given permission to marry again 1 Cor 7:8.
• For the widow to enter into the ‘widows fund’ she must meet the following requirement.
1 Tim 5:9 “having been the wife of one husband” in her lifetime, as moral.
• “As long as lives” 1 Cor 7:39 and Rom 7:1-2 was a very strong statement as said in 1 Samuel 1:28, when Hannah “lent” her son Samuel to the Lord “as long as he lives”.
• Only the man is said to be given permission to marry when “loosed” from a living “wife” 1 Cor 7:27-28.
• Paul said a Christian man is not to “leave” his wife Cor 7:11b.
The Greek word “leave” could also be translated “dismiss” in Greek 1 Cor 7:12-13 or “remit” (as Mark 2:7, 10).
• We are not to use the Law of Moses (Gal 3:10) to divorce our wives because of the “hardness of hearts” (Eze 36:26 we have been given a “new heart” and a “new spirit”).
• The way we understand “sexual immorality” and “adultery” is by the Old Testament Law, which we are commanded, as Christians, to abstain from (Acts 15:29).
• Only if an unbeliever separates from the marriage are we allowed (by scripture) to divorce our spouse 1 Cor 7:15 (as God Jer 3:8-9 “Israel”). Only for “peace” sake.
• The woman is to be submissive “as even the Law says” (referring to the Law of God in which He said to the woman “husband desire, rule over you” Gen 3:16).
• The “law” of the husband is not a Law from Moses (“Written in the book of the Law”) that we died to, but God’s established laws in which “God said…” The punishment of Eve towards all women.
• Paul used the simple truth of a woman being bound to the “law of the husband” to help the Jews understand how they commit adultery while being both “under” Christ and “under” Law.
• They must be set free from the Law to obey the “law of God” Rom 7:1-25 by living in the “law of the Spirit” Rom 8:1-3.
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RE: controlling - 6/3/2009 6:57:40 AM
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Some examples of his behavior are constantly watching me, not going to work because he wants to stay home to watch me, if he goes to work then he calls me all day long to see where I am and who I've talked to, checking reciepts if I shop without him there-oh that's when he allows me to take the checkbook, If I go for a walk he has to go, I've woke up in the middle of the night to find him staring at me and then he says do I make you nervous, I could go on but that's enough for now.
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RE: controlling - 6/3/2009 9:18:53 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: sunshine04847
Some examples of his behavior are constantly watching me, not going to work because he wants to stay home to watch me, if he goes to work then he calls me all day long to see where I am and who I've talked to, checking reciepts if I shop without him there-oh that's when he allows me to take the checkbook, If I go for a walk he has to go, I've woke up in the middle of the night to find him staring at me and then he says do I make you nervous, I could go on but that's enough for now.
His behaviour is beyond normal jealous behaviour. has he any reaons to be this way, or is it just him? has he always been like this or did it suddenly start?
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RE: controlling - 6/4/2009 9:38:22 AM
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He has been this way ever since we have been married. I'm just now seeing how he has alienated me from family and friends. He has stalked me in the past and I was so messed up I thought it was because he loved me so much. It has gotten worse over the years and I just don't know what to do. I want to do God's will in my life but I don't think God would want me to be in this situation. He isn't always like this, he might go for a couple of weeks without following me to bed when I go or get up the second I do. But then he alays goes back to obsessing. Right now I'm dealing w/alot of anger towards him because his attitude towards our daught was so bad it caused her to move out and in w/her boyfriend that she didn't really know.
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RE: controlling - 6/4/2009 1:21:22 PM
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sunshine: You aren't the only one in your boat. There are alot of people that don't see things as they should. There are all kinds of reasons and circumstances for that. Its good that God took off the rose colored glasses so you can see the truth. I think anger at times can be a trigger for change. Anger isn't always a bad thing, but the bible asks us not to sin while angry. It may rise and wilt at times - the anger as the portions of your life come into the light of truth. You will begin to see things as they truly are. There will be some that will not be able to grasp that concept, and will not understand HOW you couldn't have seen. Its up to them to figure that, and don't feel that you need to show them if they come to you with the wrong attitude. You have to much on your plate already.
The safest thing to do is find those that understand the dynamic you are dealing with, and having them pray with you. God will lay out the path he wishes you to seek. I think God places us in these positions at times for growth within ourselves, and for a purpose that we may not always see right away.
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RE: controlling - 6/4/2009 11:29:35 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: sunshine04847
He has been this way ever since we have been married. I'm just now seeing how he has alienated me from family and friends. He has stalked me in the past and I was so messed up I thought it was because he loved me so much. It has gotten worse over the years and I just don't know what to do. I want to do God's will in my life but I don't think God would want me to be in this situation. He isn't always like this, he might go for a couple of weeks without following me to bed when I go or get up the second I do. But then he alays goes back to obsessing. Right now I'm dealing w/alot of anger towards him because his attitude towards our daught was so bad it caused her to move out and in w/her boyfriend that she didn't really know.
It does say the vertious woman, when ever possible lives such a trust worthy life that... Prov 321:11 "The heart of her husband trusts in her, And he will have no lack of gain." Obviously it is not just talking about the woman bringing home the bacon. I know some men and their sin causing them not to trust a godly woman, but do your best to be a vertious woman who he CAN trust, to the best of your ability and pray for him.
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RE: controlling - 6/11/2009 12:06:27 PM
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quote:
Divorce through a Child's Eyes: Between Two Worlds
Mark Earley
Prison Fellowship President
"Divorce is better for children than constant parental bickering. If parents do what makes them happy, their children will be happy too. In fact, divorce can actually benefit kids in the long run by introducing them to new people and new experiences."
So go the most popular myths today about divorce. But the reality doesn't line up with the myths, as Elizabeth Marquardt writes in her new book, Between Two Worlds: The Inner Lives of Children of Divorce.
Read the rest of the article...
I Thought this quote was interesting:
"...research indicates that even in the most civil of divorces, many burdens that rightly belong to the parents are shifted to their children."
Sadly true.
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Divorce - One Stop Thread - 6/11/2009 12:15:11 PM
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Thank you for the article, Fritz.
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RE: controlling - 6/11/2009 6:03:45 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Fritzpw_Admin
quote:
Divorce through a Child's Eyes: Between Two Worlds
Mark Earley
Prison Fellowship President
"Divorce is better for children than constant parental bickering. If parents do what makes them happy, their children will be happy too. In fact, divorce can actually benefit kids in the long run by introducing them to new people and new experiences."
So go the most popular myths today about divorce. But the reality doesn't line up with the myths, as Elizabeth Marquardt writes in her new book, Between Two Worlds: The Inner Lives of Children of Divorce.
Read the rest of the article...
I Thought this quote was interesting:
"...research indicates that even in the most civil of divorces, many burdens that rightly belong to the parents are shifted to their children."
Sadly true.
Thank you for sharing.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 6/29/2009 1:36:20 PM
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Ok, I am new to this site, but I do have a question. Tried to post it under relationships, and was re-directed to this thread.
I am a divorced 38yo female. I have found, scripturally and directly from the Lord, that it IS ok for me to re-marry.
You see, I had not been not born again when I was married. Was born again 2 years ago. 2 Corin 5:17 says that "...is a new creation; the old has gone and new has come."
There are more scriptures that state this, also.
As far as ministry goes, I believe that the same applies.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 6/29/2009 1:43:38 PM
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lvgfth08
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Guess I didn't really ask my question....sorry.
What are your thoughts on re-marriage and ministry for someone like me/
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 6/29/2009 1:46:50 PM
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this really is for the remarriage thread, but here is something:
that is often stated as a reason to justify remarriage "all things are made new"
why do so many beleive this erases only some parts of our past...well, let me explain.
say you have a degree before you are saved. is that degree invalid? say you have a job? do you not go into work becasue that is no longer your job? are your children no longer yours?
see, that line of reasoning does not work.
what it means is..all your past sins are forgiven. while you are forgiven for having the divorce, you are not absolved of the bonds you made in that marriage. God had/has for you to only be married to one man as long as he lives (the man). you are not scripturally okayed to get married to another if/until your first and only husband dies.
as paul notes, you are to remain unmarried or reconcile with your husband.
Jesus noted that moses had suffered or allowed them to write a bill of divorcement to make putting away okay, but He said that from the beginning it wasn't so-that that was not God's doing but man's. Jesus continues His teaching addressing the further sin created in remarraige when and bc ppl were getting unGodly divorces.
blessings in Christ Jesus
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 6/29/2009 9:14:50 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Isaiah331516
this really is for the remarriage thread, but here is something:
that is often stated as a reason to justify remarriage "all things are made new"
why do so many beleive this erases only some parts of our past...well, let me explain.
say you have a degree before you are saved. is that degree invalid? say you have a job? do you not go into work becasue that is no longer your job? are your children no longer yours?
see, that line of reasoning does not work.
what it means is..all your past sins are forgiven. while you are forgiven for having the divorce, you are not absolved of the bonds you made in that marriage. God had/has for you to only be married to one man as long as he lives (the man). you are not scripturally okayed to get married to another if/until your first and only husband dies.
as paul notes, you are to remain unmarried or reconcile with your husband.
Jesus noted that moses had suffered or allowed them to write a bill of divorcement to make putting away okay, but He said that from the beginning it wasn't so-that that was not God's doing but man's. Jesus continues His teaching addressing the further sin created in remarraige when and bc ppl were getting unGodly divorces.
blessings in Christ Jesus
Amen. This is correct what Isaiah331516 wrote. The scripture references are 1 Cor 7:10-11, 1 Cor 7:39 and Rom 7:2. God bless you sister.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 6/30/2009 9:10:45 AM
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"she is not my wife, and I am not her husband" Hos 2:2.
I totally do not get your point and I read the entire chapter.
YOU are not my husband and I am not your wife, but that doesn't mean that we were ever married and are now divorced. And what do you mean by a "divorce being done properly"? In our society, filing papers, going to court and having the judge dissolve a marriage is a divorce. This is what we go by since our society gets a marriage license to be recognized as married. So now, in this day and time, we go by the law of the land to either marry or divorce.
To everyone else who is saying that a woman can not divorce her husband - are you saying that if she is a Christian and divorces her husband, she will go to Hell? Yes or No.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 6/30/2009 2:36:41 PM
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ORIGINAL: GrannyofSix
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"she is not my wife, and I am not her husband" Hos 2:2.
I totally do not get your point and I read the entire chapter.
YOU are not my husband and I am not your wife, but that doesn't mean that we were ever married and are now divorced. And what do you mean by a "divorce being done properly"? In our society, filing papers, going to court and having the judge dissolve a marriage is a divorce. This is what we go by since our society gets a marriage license to be recognized as married. So now, in this day and time, we go by the law of the land to either marry or divorce.
To everyone else who is saying that a woman can not divorce her husband - are you saying that if she is a Christian and divorces her husband, she will go to Hell? Yes or No.
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So now, in this day and time, we go by the law of the land to either marry or divorce.
for the first .... "So now, in this day and time, we go by the law of the land to either marry or divorce. " we don't go by the law of the Land if it goes against scripture. It says in Matt 5:31-32 they were 'divorced' by the law of the land but God still considers the marriage not divorced in spiritual ways and commits adultery if marry another.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 6/30/2009 3:22:57 PM
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mikesayen
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ORIGINAL: GrannyofSix
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"she is not my wife, and I am not her husband" Hos 2:2.
I totally do not get your point and I read the entire chapter.
YOU are not my husband and I am not your wife, but that doesn't mean that we were ever married and are now divorced. And what do you mean by a "divorce being done properly"? In our society, filing papers, going to court and having the judge dissolve a marriage is a divorce. This is what we go by since our society gets a marriage license to be recognized as married. So now, in this day and time, we go by the law of the land to either marry or divorce.
To everyone else who is saying that a woman can not divorce her husband - are you saying that if she is a Christian and divorces her husband, she will go to Hell? Yes or No.
God was married to Isreal and Judah (Jer 3:8-9) but because of Isreal's adutlery God divorced her Isaiah 50:1. So Israel was God's wife and He was her husband at the covenant of Moses in the wilderness.. but was divorced and Israel is no longer God's wife , nor is He her Husband Hos 2:2. 2 Kings 17:6-23 Israels divorce from the Land.
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