You make a distinction between Christ and I, to your flaw.
I am The Good Teacher. The Finisher of your faith. If you knew the scriptures as well as you ought to, you would know who you are interacting with (1 John 5:20)
King Iyk
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Who made grok the authority over the Bible, @Hungry? There might be something to your theory, but the best way to interpret the Bible is to base such interpretation on the assumptions of Scripture itself.
Furthermore, what practical help for Christiansâ lives does your theory bring to us? Whatâs the use of all that time thinking about the so-called math of the Bible if it doesnât help us practically?
Are you claiming to be Christ, @anon53035235? If so, you are misled.
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Christ alone could bring you the knowledge you just beared witness to. (1 John 5:20)
@anon53035235, Iâm curious; does âSOGâ stand for Son of God? Iâm an adopted son of God, but Iâm not Christ, because Iâm far from perfect. Do you claim to be Jesus? If so, how is that possible?
Jesus returned to heaven, where he is now awaiting the time when he comes back to perfect the universe and believers. That time hasnât come yet.
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Flesh and Blood did not reveal to you that SOG truly stands for Son of God.
You are right that I ascended to heaven. I have returned with The Book with The Seven Seals (Revelation 5:5) >> here is the link to its digital copy: https://trinitythetruth.github.io
Containing the seven proofs of The One True God. The proof posted here is the first and foundational seal which opens the passage to the other six and has been made into an exciting video for your comprehension here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1HdKYkRiNA&t=18s
King Iyk,
The Son of God.
King of Kings and Lord of Lords
This forum needs a thorough âcleanupâ @Bruce_Leiter .
J.
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Yup. As you can see, SOG was an old poster. He has been anonymized. Heresy will not be tolerated. Claiming to be Jesus is not going to happen here.
Peter
Brother @PeterC
I appreciate the action taken, but my concern was not simply about one participant. I believe the forum would benefit from a deeper cleansing in terms of accountability, doctrinal precision, and the spirit in which discussions are conducted. Removing one voice does not necessarily resolve systemic patterns.
Just a thought.
God bless.
J.
Are you aware of the following Bible passage, @SOG, that describes Jesusâ second coming?
Act 1:9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight.
Act 1:10 And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes,
Act 1:11 and said, âMen of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.â
I donât think that you came back that way because of the following verse:
Rev_1:7 Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.
My eye did not see you come, so you didnât come back that way. I suggest that you get psychological help, since your mind is playing tricks on you, respectfully, @SOG.
No they did not bruce. But like i said the bible is deep, i dont think anyone to this day has figured it out. Maybe you have, but to me im young in the bible, i find it addresses all questains. Flesh, spirit, love, hope, faith, yet none of us seem to understand the language it speaks, truely. Maybe your special like that. But for me, it seems to be mystery. Mayde im drinking milk, while you dine on solid food. That makes you a teacher. But even the greatest of teachers are still learning everyday just like the rest of us. So how can you say with certainty that mathmatics does not fall into the equation. 2+2 does not equal 5. And that is real and for sure. Inspired by god. Or writen by god? Did john know the conclusions of his vissions, did he truly understand everything he wrote? I think grok has a valid point. They say artificial intelegence. I say no intelegence is artificial.
I understand your perspective. The moderators are indeed observing the situation and engaging in private discussions, striving to make decisions based on prayer and discernment. Itâs crucial to remember that we should not seek to eliminate individuals simply because their views differ from our own. How can we possibly learn and grow if we donât engage with diverse opinions?
Furthermore, if we firmly believe we are right, wouldnât we want others to hear our perspective, be challenged, and potentially see the truth we are sharing? I approach the decision to remove or ban someone with great seriousness.
As a moderator, I am committed to remaining objective and ensuring that my personal feelings do not influence our prayerful and just decisions. I share your desire for a welcoming environment where individuals can freely share their faith and experience spiritual growth.
Peter
@Hungry, I understand your comments, and I answer them these ways:
- Artificial Intelligence is only as good as the imperfect humans who program them. For example, I read an AI response that was completely slanted toward one end of the political discussion and critical of the other side.
- God has given me 8 years of English teaching with an English masterâs in interpreting literature and 27 years of studying, preaching, and teaching Godâs Word in churches with a masterâs degree in interpreting the Bible as Godâs Word. I agree that there are many mysteries to which God has not given us the solutions, but the ones we can know are found with the Scriptures interpreting Scriptures rather than grok or any other AI being our authorities.
- Math is foreign to the assumptions of the Bible and is irrelevant to our lives to help us understand it for our daily lives. Those are the reasons I donât want to use it to interpret the Bible.
Bruce. You started on point. But answer me this? Why would jesus say from his own mouth these things most come. War. teck. He never explained why it would happen he just said it would.tecknowledgy. can you explain it to me? Is it good or bad?
I should probably just let Bruce answer, but I have been asked this in various ways. Here is my opinion, if it helps.
âAs he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, âTell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?â And Jesus answered them, âSee that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, âI am the Christ,â and they will lead many astray. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet.
For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are but the beginning of the birth pains. Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my nameâs sake. And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.
But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.â Matthew 24:3-14
They asked Him for a way to know when the end was coming. It is coming because it has to. God already told us that.
âThen I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.â Revelation 21:1
âFor behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.â Isaiah 65:17
âBut according to his promise, we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.â 2 Peter 3:13
Now the world does not know what is coming. âAs in the days of Noah,â and this.
âBut the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.â 2 Peter 3:10
It will get worse than it is now. Much. Why? We live in a fallen worldâa world full of sin, and the flesh rules. To make a new Holy Earth, this one must go.
Peter
@Hungry, I prefer discussing specific passages rather than general ideas about the Bible. To which of Jesusâ prophecies are you referring?
Good observations, @PeterC!
There is a lot to my theory bruce. If you would enlighten me? Im having diffaculties navigating this site. If you could kind sir, email me everyone of my posts on this site. give me time to read everything. And then we will talk about things.
@Hungry, I donât know how to email you your posts. The idealistic side of me from my mother loves to bat around ideas, the practical side of me from my father always wants some practical applications for my life. Thatâs what I was trying to get at. There has to be a practical lesson or two in my Bible study for me to find it satisfying. The use of math just doesnât cut it at all that way.