We’ve all sinned, but we all need to repent of our sin.
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The unspoken assumption in this thread is that certain sins, the socially acceptable sins are permitted by God but the unspeakable sexual deviant sins are not accepted by God.
We are All sinners saved by grace.
For most of us a personal falling/backsliding mean leefing at a prettg girl or over eating/drinking.
For others it means committing a crime or gross indecency.
For some reason some say that those who do the latter are not, were never saved.
What is the difference between getting drunk, leering at a girl or committing a sexual act?
They are all sins, need repenting of, but does it really mean youare not aChristian.
I believe this was the question being asked. The key is in the word ‘faithfully’ and the answer is no. They are not walking faithfully because their lifestyle is sinful. If disobedience to God’s word meant an end to salvation, then who here could stand? Salvation is by faith not behavior.
I really don’t get all this focus on homosexuality in the Church. Yes, it’s wrong. The Bible is very clear on that. So are a lot of other things; gluttony for one and no one talks about that much. I guess its because we don’t expect there to be anyone homosexual in the church we attend so we’re free to badmouth them. Why aren’t we talking about the sins many of us do struggle with? What is it about their speck that keeps us from seeing our log? I know this is just conversation for most and maybe a real problem for others, but its not worth the amount of attention we give it.
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Anyone living a homosexual or any other sinful lifestyle is not being faithful to Christ, @Fritzpw_Admin, because the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments says, “You shall not commit adultery,” “male and female he created them, and “flee from sexual immorality.”
Exo 20:14 “You shall not commit adultery.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
1Co_6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.
oh my god, waah waah waah
If my love and my lifestyle makes it so i don’t enter heaven, i guess that’s what I’m sucking up.
not all homosexuality is lust. animals can be homosexual, and it can still be solely romantic. not that im saying im NEVER lustful with my partner, but I’m not a full-raging freakjob around him. i still go on dinner dates with him.
homosexuality is not lust. if it is, then youre commiting lust, too. because love is always linked to lust.
The Bible speaks clearly about sexual sin, and it’s important to approach this topic with both truth and compassion, as Jesus did. When we look at Scripture, we see a consistent pattern regarding sexual relationships. God’s design, as laid out in the creation accounts and reinforced throughout the Old and New Testaments, is for marriage to be between a man and a woman.
For example, in Genesis 1:27-28, it says, “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. God blessed them and said to them, ‘Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and govern it.’” This foundational passage sets the framework for human relationships and procreation within a male-female union.
The Apostle Paul addresses sexual immorality directly in 1 Corinthians 6:18, stating, “Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.”
This verse broadly condemns sexual sin. More specifically, in verses 9-10, he lists those who will not inherit the kingdom of God, including “men who practice homosexuality.” This is a clear indication of how the early church understood and taught about this matter.
Lust itself is also addressed by Jesus. In Matthew 5:28, He says,
“But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
This shows that even the thought and intent of lustful desire is sinful, regardless of the gender of the person being lusted after. The principle here is about the purity of our thoughts and desires, which are meant to be aligned with God’s will.
It’s crucial to remember that God’s grace is available to all who turn to Him. While the Bible is clear on these matters, it also emphasizes love and forgiveness. Jesus Himself associated with those considered sinners, not to condone their sin, but to call them to repentance and a new life.
The message of the Gospel is one of redemption and transformation for everyone.
J.
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Each year I read the entire Bible, cover to cover. This morning I read in 1 Kings 15
**11 **And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, as did David his father.
**12 **And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made…./KJV
Seems very clear to me! How would the gays spin that one? If gays (sodomites) think they can be righteous and still be gay, why were the sodomites taken out of the land? Duh, because God don’t like sodomy.
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we have increased in number already, we can focus on other things!! heterosexual relationships aren’t as required anymore. we’re overpopulated, and kids are dying from it.
Honestly being gay, lesbian, or bisexual could even be better as it helps less abortions happen daily. Also we are extremely overpopulated already and the more and more we reproduce the worse our earths climate ad pollution gets. So stop hating on gays its not your life, it doesn’t effect you, and its not harmful to anyone or anything. (kudo’s to my friend Kora for this bit lol)
not “repenting” for my love life, thanks
one, i never said that “lust doesn’t count if its another man”, i said “not all love is lust”. two, lust just naturally comes with love. biology doesn’t care about your religion – whether you want it to or not. all love – including straight AND homosexual love, always starts with a type of lust. the attraction of how someone looks, smells, etc. which is what leads us to meet these people and grow attracted to their personality, thoughts, style, etc.
what needs to be accepted: Love is love, not a crime. adam and eve were created to repopulate not because its a sin to love the same sex, but to populate the earth that god made. now that we’re populated – if anything, OVERpopulated, being straight really doesnt matter. and I’m not going to repent for a non-existent sin.
god bless all it doesnt matter your sexuality
Show the scripture! And then read the rebuttal If u post one, then read what God himself says in Romans 1:18-32. **18 **For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who [a]suppress the truth in unrighteousness, **19 **because what may be known of God is [b]manifest [c]in them, for God has shown it to them. **20 **For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and [d]Godhead, so that they are without excuse, **21 **because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. **22 **Professing to be wise, they became fools, **23 **and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like [e]corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
**24 **Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, **25 **who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
**26 **For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their [f]women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. **27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.28 **And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; **29 **being filled with all unrighteousness, [i]sexual immorality, wickedness, [j]covetousness, [k]maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, **30 **backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 [l]undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, [m]unforgiving, unmerciful; **32 **who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
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question,
so, many christians have sex. when you say “sexual immorality”, are you sure the bible is reffering to homophobia, and not pedophilia? many grown men use young boys bodies. thats sexual immorality, and i was a victim of it.
because one thing is for sure – i’ve met my soulmate, and plan to marry him. but is it REALLY “sexual immorality” to do it after marridge just because its two men? but im sure, if it was a man and a woman who wanted to have triplets multiple times in a row, surely THAT would be fine, because theyre not abnormal. (sarcasm)
funny how some people like to point out the abnormal when its what jesus christ fought for to be safe and heard. he loves everyone, love the sinner, not the sin.
your statement to me, implies how foolish I would be to stick also which clearly states:**18 **For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who [d]suppress the truth in unrighteousness, **19 **because what may be known of God is [e]manifest [f]in them, for God has shown it to them. **20 **For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and [g]Godhead, so that they are without excuse, **21 **because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. **22 **Professing to be wise, they became fools, **23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like [h]corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.24 **Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, **25 **who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. All I would ask you is do you believe this passage it true or not?
Why are you trying to rationalize it instead of reading what God said and accepting it? It was Adam & Eve. It was not Adam & Steve.
Sexual immorality covers a lot of ground. The only sexual activity is between one female wife and one man, who are married. To defile the marriage bed makes what whoever did it guilty of sexual immorality.
You can choose to believe whatever you want to and it doesn’t matter to Christians because they know that who you are really questioning is God Himself. So be careful with that man as God is GOD and isn’t playing games.