What??? 1 John 3:4-5, “Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.” a) There is no mention of the ten commandments. b) Christians are in Christ and “in Him is no sin”. So, Christians are regarded as SINLESS.
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You’ve dodged over half of the verses that I’ve posted to support what I believe. If you care to know what I believe, address the information that I post. Do you expect me to answer all your questions and acknowledge all of your verse references? - of which I can only remember seeing one, by the way.
I believe exactly what Scripture says.
Christ “created” the 10 Commandments (Jn. 1:1,3,14)
Christ “taught” the 10 Commandments (Matt. 5:19-20)(Matt. 23:1-3) and more.
Christ “obeyed” the 10 Commandments (John 15:10)
Christ’s followers (the first Christians) “obeyed” the Commandments after His death on the Cross (Luke 23:54-56)(Acts 21:24).
You have no answer, or comment, for the vast majority of that simple collection of proof-texts and passages.
Until you do, you are just repeating yourself and ignoring the information presented to you that challenges, and very clearly proves incorrect, your position.
It’s unnecessary for it to specifically mention the words “Holy Spirit”. How else do you propose that Christ comes to live with us if it’s not referring to the Holy Spirit? (John 14:23)
Well, again, that just doesn’t align with Scripture. Contrary to popular teaching today, the Bible actually states that sincere Christians are no longer sinners (Rom. 5:8), but they are certainly still capable of sinning - just as James 3:2 and 1 Jn. 3:4 make clear. “We all stumble (sin) often” and “sin is the breaking of the Law”.
You can continue to twist the Scriptures all you like, but you can’t change what it plainly teaches.
God bless.
Please do not use this word “surely” when thinking you are telling me my own thoughts, it is not brotherly. And no, it is written that Christ the Lord encouraged work on the Sabbath at times.
Certainly. But He is not subject to the Law; the Law is subject to Him. Remember what He said about the Sabbath, and his encouragement of work of harvest for food during it?
No, the Law is not the method by which Christ the Lord defeated the enemy.
I see this is yet another profound confusion of KJV. Here is better, Literal Standard Version:
Everyone who is doing sin, he also does lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness,
I John 3:4
No, I don’t remember anything about Christ encouraging “work” on the Sabbath. Do tell, please. And if you’re referring to the plucking of ears of corn, that was neither “work”, as they were passing through a corn field, nor was it breaking any law as Deut. 23:25 makes clear.
Oh ok. Please help me understand how He did it.
You’d have to explain to me what you believe the difference is between the Law and the 10 Commandments. God’s Law was written in stone. The whole Bible is a continuous book, not two completely separate texts.
Christ the Lord also disobeyed the Law of Moses concerning adultery: not only should have the woman been killed, but her partner killed too. Instead He produced an entirely different result, one made by His law, the law more important than any of the Ten.
Furthermore, the Law of Moses requires sacrifice of animals for the remission of sin. Christ the Lord made irrelevant all of those laws, as did John the Baptist, by way of the baptism of repentance for the remission of sin.
If our sin is taken away from us by Christ the Lord, He and we are not in obedience to the Law of Moses, which commands the use of the blood of animals. We are in obedience to the Christ the Lord, instead.
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And you should read my post more carefully. Is there something about “regarded” as sinless that you don’t understand?
Our past sins are taken away by Christ’s sacrifice on the Cross - not every sin we would ever commit. That’s what praying for forgiveness and repentance is all about. That’s what encouraging brothers and sisters in Christ not to sin is all about.
Christ’s Commandments are God’s Commandments. Christ created them. Those who obey Christ obey the 10 Commandments - just as Christ Himself taught and obeyed and the first Christians are shown obeying them in Luke 23:54-56. As well as Paul is mentioned as keeping them in Acts 21:24.
I don’t think anybody else here said anything about obedience to the Law of Moses. When asked what Commandments should be obeyed, Christ always listed Commandments from the Decalogue.
Well, you’ve said the above over and over and over again. I have to wonder why, given much that has already been said. But certainly Christ the Lord did much against the Law: the Law requires sacrifice of animals for the remission of sin, and Christ the Lord does not.
And you’ve said much of that repeatedly as well. What Law is it that the elders declared Paul was a keeper of in Acts 21:24? This was long after Paul’s conversion and he was actively teaching “Christianity”. Do you really believe he was still sacrificing animals and keeping the 613 Commands of Judaism at that time?
Christ the Lord gives us higher Law.
The think about sin is that it has consequences. For instance, if I rob a bank, I go to prison.
Do the te commandments app.y to us today?
Answer Yes they do and No they don.
How often do you get up and decide to curse God, or to rob somebody etc etc.
We live lives accordng to the10C, unfortunetly most non christian ignore the spiritual laws about God.
No they do not apply as a way of earning Gods approval.
But yes they are our guide asto what a life that is pleasing to God is.
I’m struggling to fully understand what you mean. The term “nullified” seems to suggest that the Ten Commandments have been abolished, implying that Christians are no longer required to follow them. While I do believe that the concept of Sabbath rest is fulfilled in Christ, I can’t comprehend the idea that I could freely commit adultery or steal etc… In fact, the teachings of Christ appear to elevate the Ten Commandments through the principle of love. By truly loving God and others, as stated in Matthew 22:37–40, I believe I would naturally uphold the Ten Commandments.
To add to the above: My righteousness comes through Christ alone, not by adhering to any moral law. I know I will always fall short, but I continually rely on Christ and His precious blood to cleanse and sustain me. Even so, I strive to live in a way that honors Him and reflects His teachings.
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Unless you’re Donald Trump – convicted of 34 (financial) felonies and he is not only free but the head of his (lawless) executive branch.
The ten commandments are external, written laws that govern unsaved people. Christians have God’s law written on our hearts – they are internal. They govern a lot more than the OT law.
The 34 felonies were fake, cooked up by a weaponized justice system that was trying to take him down. I’m pleased he was elected president. He’s trying to reduce our national debt by eliminating wasteful government spending.
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