God doesnt sin does he? Just asking because you seem to think if man does it so does God? Is that what you are saying? You said God has a sence of humor because man does but man sins and God doesnt @Joe-Also
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You are quite (unitentionally) correct. I did not answer your question. Infact, the ?! should signify me not being sure of the translation of bātzelem but it appears it was lost in the translation. So let me word it this wayā¦
Am I correct that bātzelem Elokim means in the image of God, (because I donāt speak Hebrew and I assume that bātzelem Elokim is Hebrew)? Now that I see ā× Ö·Ö½×¢Ö²×©Ö¶×Ö„×ā, it now makes the question moot though. (So youāve now unintentionally answerd my question and so there is no longe a need to do so unless I err on × Ö·Ö½×¢Ö²×©Ö¶×Ö„× being Hebrew.)
Only image, not likeness?
And if you do affirm likeness, can you explain this for me since you donāt consult lexicons?
You think this refers to a visual representation only? It was said viewing God would kill. O.o
I define it like thisā¦
To Be Edited In. Accidentally hit send.
So which ātoolā did you use re (צֶ×Ö¶×)? What is it?
And you donāt seem to believe in YHWHā (×Ö°Ö¼××Ö¼×Ŗ) Correct?
According to YOUR exegesis we are only created in YHWHā tzelem, right?
Correct me if there is a misunderstanding on my part.
So how would you define this Joe? Without any lexical aids, tools of the devil, I was told?
Not combative here.
J.
Please kindly read the edit above your last post, I was not finnished. I am currently looking something up. Please hold.
@Joe-Also??? Im still trying to figure out what you are saying???
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× Ö·Ö½×¢Ö²×©Ö¶×Ö„× (naāaseh) This has nothing to do with āimageā Joe.
J.
Did I say it did Brother? Please re-read my statement to mean I believed it to be hebrew, which I donāt speak, and use it for handy example only.
Iāll hold Joe. No worries.
J.
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So we are back to image and likeness, you seem to hold to image only, not likeness.
Now, without any lexicons or study tools, since you insist we use the bible only, how would you exegete this for me?
Once this is established, we can go on the ālaughterā of Sarah.
J.
When Jesus, a part of the trinty of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, gave the parable of the speck of dirt versus the plank in the eye in Matt 19:24, Mark 10:25 and Luke 18:25, he thought it was witty enough to repeat it 3 times.
Since you like lexicons, The Encyclopedia of the Bible has this to say.
āHumorus implications include the ridiculous contrast between the speck and the beam (Matt 7:3-5), the way Christ outwitted the Pharisees in the matter of Caesarās superscription (Mark 12:13-17), and the Sudduces on the question of a much-married wman and her husbands in the resurrection (12:18-27), the ludicrous procedure of straining out a small insect from wine an swallowing acamel, (Matt 23:24)ā
Now, as to the image and likeness, it means spirtually. It is folly to assume we could do ALL that God does, for we ourselves canāt form order out of chaos by speaking it true. But to create something in ones image means to give it a capacity the creator does not have? God gave us the rainbow as a symbol that he would no longer flood the earth. What is a rainbow? Light refracting off of water vapors, seen from a distance, at the right angle. How ironic. And irony is a form of humor.
Do you know what a lexicon is Joe?
Sinceā¦
A lexicon is not an encyclopedia, and confusing the two leads to serious interpretive errors.
J.
A lexicon, essentially a catalogue of a languageās words (its wordstock); and a grammar, a system of rules which it is based upon. Synonyms for LEXICON: dictionary, vocabulary, glossary, thesaurus, wordbook, nomenclator, glossary or encyclopedia.
That sum it up?
Source: Websters and Wiki
So what does it mean we are created in the image and likeness of YHWH Joe?
Is it only image, no likeness, or likeness, no image?
I can help you Joe, just say the word.
My lexicons are exegetical aids, morphology and syntax.
You do know what morphology and syntax is?
Goodnight, late here.
J.
Iāve anserwed your question on image and likeness.
Definition of ENCYCLOPEDIA
So be it if the subject is laguage.
Yes, it is what I have in mind. This is a general definition. Humor covers a wide scope, including satire. If God has a sense of humor, does it not stand that the devil does too? I claim God has a sense of humor, I never said he embodies it all in every sense. Gods humor is more subtle and tactful.
And since you may askā¦
Now look up humor from Merry Webster, is this what you have in mind re YHWH?
J.
ā read the edit for answer.
Right, I see, Merriam Webster is your secondary source and not hermeneutical, exegetical aids.
Shalom, late here, I have to see a dentist today.
J.
I yet to see where he proved that God is humorous according to the bible, i respect your opinion but thats what it is an opinon. You cant claim it to be fact without proofā¦
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I respect what you are saying @paulhinkle but biblically speaking YHWH is not humorous like a human being, wrong tools, wrong exegesis.
Keen observation from your end.
Read Isaiah 53, A Man of sorrows, suffering, nothing humorous about Messiah and Abba.
J.
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