Interesting Questions fm @TruthSeek

These were sort of lost on another thread, which I thought was kind of a shame, because it might be interesting what other folks might be nudged to share.

@TruthSeek

Interesting. Let me ask you a couple of questions. You mention being perplexed about why people do not embrace the Word, in contrast to their acceptance of teachings of other subjects in school. Have you given any thought as to why this might be? You speak of evidence to support the Word. Can you give me a specific example? I would like to give you my critique of it.

You also claim that God has made moves in your own life. What example can you provide that demonstrates this? When you cried out to Him and claim He answered immediately, what do you mean by that? In what way did He answer?”

Some may have experiences or knowledge that bolster the faith of others, so let’s not be bashful, while also taking care to glorify God. It’s not a contest ha ha.

Your brother

OK @Pater15
A Personal Testimony; every bit of this story is true!

I was a young Christian, newly married, and barely living from paycheck to paycheck when I received the most wonderful news a young husband can hear; we were pregnant. This Jesus I was just learning about had decided to entrust my wife and me with one of His human beings to raise in His ways. I was elated and petrified at the same time. As the pregnancy progressed, we prepared for the arrival of our child. At around 7 months, my wife was larger than expected, so our doctor asked my wife to have something called a “sonogram”; an new emerging technology at the time, that seemed like magic to me. The sonogram technician performed the noninvasive test quietly, without emotion, and refused to tell us anything that she was seeing in the images on her screen, citing some hospital rule blab la bla.. When it was completed, she said the Doctor wanted to meet with us. Our suspicion was he was going to tell us we were having twins, and I was glorifying God, praying thankfulness for His manifold gifts.

Sitting in a small room, across a desk from the Doctor, he said, without hesitation, “There is no good way to tell you this, but your baby doesn’t have a head.” We were in shock. The news hit us like a piano falling on our head. “What? What are you saying? Everything has been going fine, even better than fine. What are you talking about”. The doctor coldly told us that our child was “anencephalic”, which means the baby’s head does not develop completely due to a “neural tube defect”. These words were a foreign language to me, and I could not process the gravity of the news; my poor wife was weeping. The doctor immediately began explaining the abortion procedure he would perform, in graphic detail. My new Christianity reared up inside me as I rose to my feet and proclaimed “We will not be aborting our baby!” The doctor tried explaining how we would not be doing anything wrong to abort the baby since the child could never live in this condition. If we refused the abortion, due to the anencephaly, our pregnancy would probably continue past 10 months and even into the 11th month. He intimated that we would have to live for possibly the next four months knowing we were going to deliver a baby who would not live. We left his office defiant, and without consenting to his solution.

My mother-in-law was a nurse, and my wife called her in panic and confusion. Her mother practiced in a hospital 200 miles away, and she invited us to come and meet with a doctor she knew for a second opinion. We did exactly what she told us to do, since we had no idea how to handle this situation. The second doctor was a sweet-natured man, who sympathized with our situation, reperformed the test, and came to the same conclusion; our baby had a severe neural tube defect that interfered with cranial development. He told us he did not perform abortions, but that is the medically indicated course of action. I cried out to Jesus, I cried out in pain, I begged for intervention. The second doctor confirmed that in cases like this, my wife would most likely carry the nonviable fetus for 10 to 11 months before delivering. My newly-minted Christian ethics stood in stark contrast to consistent medical advice. My wife was a pile of butter, she could not think about anything but loss.

We went to my mother-in-law’s house, sat alone in their living room, and I began praying for God to deliver some answers, some direction, some insight, some help, some intervention, something! As I prayed, my wife began having contractions. We thought it was due to her stress so we ignored them for hours, as I continued to pray. When her contractions became regular and painful, I decided to call the doctor back that we had just seen. His staff spoke with him and assured us the contractions were “false labor” and they would subside. They did not! I called again and the doctor agreed to see us again, after his normal office hours had ended.

We arrived as the last patient was leaving for the day, and the doctor tried reassuring us, but agreed to examine my wife. He emerged from the exam room and said to me, “This is unexplainable, but your wife is in full labor, and dilated to the extent that she needs to be in the hospital NOW!” He agreed to meet us at the hospital, where my mother-in-law was working, as soon as he could get there.

We arrived at the hospital, had my mother-in-law paged, and proceeded to the delivery suite with haste. A few minutes later, the doctor arrived in just enough time to catch my newborn daughter as God pushed her from my wife’s womb into his latex-gloved hands. She weighed a little over 6 lbs, was swaddled with care, and died a few minutes later. My wife never got to hold her. I met my wife in recovery and we prayed together. The Lord miraculously flooded both our souls with His unmatched peace that surpassed our understanding. We were filled with His love that is deeper than I can imagine, and overwhelmed in His unexplainable favor. Right there, in the recovery room, my wife and I named our new daughter Grace.

Later that evening, my Father-in-law came to the hospital, pulled me aside, and told me to not worry about any funeral arrangements, he would take care of everything. He did. Later I found out that He had his own mother’s grave opened, and had our newborn Grace buried on top of His own mother. I didn’t even know that was possible.

We still think of Grace often. We eventually had three boys, one of which delivered a daughter on Graces’ birthday, and she was named Tessa Grace.

Grace, grace, God’s grace,
grace that will pardon and cleanse within;
Grace, grace, God’s grace,
grace that is greater than all our sin.

KP

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I just marvel at your steadfast faith and commitment through all of that. My goodness brother, what a testimony. I predict that I would have been like Joseph’s brothers and blamed myself somehow.

Would you say that that experience put some some steel in you for the future?

I had an experience that I rarely share at the birth or our 5th daughter. We had a home birth in our single wide trailer with a midwife.

The birth went fine, baby was good, Mom was awesome, but the afterbirth was stubborn. Still wasn’t delivered 2 hours later. Got to the point where we needed to call an ambulance, the midwife was demanding it.

My state of mind was positive and calm. No worry. Certainly no panic. It was the grace that you speak of. Anyway, my wife was on a birthing stool, and I put my hands on her back to pray over her. And I really didn’t offer much of an inspired or focused prayer - just putting our trust in Jesus. I wasn’t commanding anything, or doing anything demonstrative.

After about 10 seconds the temp of my hands shot up, I’m guessing 20+ degrees. Not from friction, they were stationary. It was at the point of being uncomfortable, both to me and my wife, who exclaimed that my hands were burning hot.

And the placenta dropped out, and all was well.

I asked God at the time about it, because It wasn’t like my faith needed steadying or anything like that. But what I didn’t know were the storms that would come later. There were times when my faith may have taken a near mortal bruising, but that experience (along with others) is perfectly undeniable intervention by God.

There is no other explanation for it. So that was a blessing for future referral.

Thank you for sharing your magnificent testimony of God’s unfailing grace. Words don’t exist that would communicate my response of sorrow and joy combined.

Your brother

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Brother, I would say that was probably My Father’s EXACT point, This speaks to the “what is the reason for suffering?” topic too, I think. Like your “burning hand” event, His grace perfectly designed for our particular need, and His gracious assurance that EVERYTHING is in His purview; everything is in His hand including us, and we are dearly loved. I know (He has made me to know) that God is for me, even when I can’t percieve it.

Thomas, (a Twin), who defiantly said to his companions, “Let us also go, that we may die with Him.” (John 11:16) also said, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe (that he is alive).” (John 20:25)
He specifically blessed Thomas, no doubt, :wink: but then reassured him… “blessed (pleased, or made happy) are those who have not seen, and yet still believe.”.

It is a blessing that you and I have been given the grace to “see” God’s love in our lives, in specific ways, at specific times. Those moments were His Grace, for you and I, to make us more like Jesus. In some way, it is because we have seen, we have believed (in some sense). Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." (John 20:29)

Thanx bro for your encouragement, and for sharing your personal encounter with God’s grace.

KP

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Thank you so much for sharing that. God be with you and your family, always. Perhaps your Grace knows our lost child in heaven.

Peter

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If they don’t know each other, I know they have a friend in common.

KP

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Thank you both for sharing your stories. As they’ve encouraged you, they encourage me. I know that when I’m going through a rough time, I recall with thanks the many times I know God answered my prayer and intervened in my life. It builds me up in the situation I’m in. There are so many times He has done this for me. Nothing as dramatic as what you recount, but for me, unmistakable.
It was an early January morning and I was still asleep. I was weeping in my sleep; great heaving sobs that woke me up and I went from the bed to my knees. I told God that I couldn’t do it. What I couldn’t do, I didn’t know only that this was going to be a horrible year. It involved my mother and something else I didn’t know. The Lord filled me with His peace in answer and I was steadied.

Later that month we found out that my mom had ALS. I knew little about it, but a client once described the disease as being buried alive. Your mental faculties are left unchanged. Your body loses everything. I heard there was no cure for the disease and the usual time to death is 4 years. By that time you would be on a ventilator and a stomach tube to feed you. It was very frightening.

During the summer I took an unpaid leave of absence for 3 months and spent much time in the family home. My mom wouldn’t leave the house or use the wheelchair we acquired for getting around. Then she had an accident and broke her ankle. The doctor put her in a cast and from that moment on we went for many walks using the wheelchair. I believe the cast was her excuse for being in that chair and I saw the broken ankle as God’s grace to her.

It was during that time that the fledging faith she had in God blossomed into something beautiful. All our conversation was about Him, His gospel and the beauty of Jesus Christ. He went from being referred to as the Lord to our Lord. She made peace with death and come the late fall, she died in her sleep.
There’s a lot more to this story, but this is what stands out. God didn’t heal her, but He was with her and she knew it. I can’t begin to say how grateful I am for that. Of course there was grief, but in that grief there was also the surety I will see her again. It was a see ya later and not a goodbye.

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Ah @Bestill, you say:

Ah, but He did, He did heal her. Your mom is copletely healed!

Therefore we do not lose heart. Even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day. For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory, while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal. (2 Corinthians 4:16-18)

Praising Him with you
KP

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@Pater15 I just replied to his questions, as best as I could. Then, lost the thread, and found it again. LOL I’m so tech challenged here. I love testifying! I’ll testify all day long if given the chance!

Your sister :slight_smile:

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How beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. That was so edifying! You have brought tears of joy to my eyes. Thank you. Thank you for sharing this.

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