Is the USA the Whore of Babylon in Revelation?

Is the USA the Whore of Babylon in Revelation?

The Book of Revelation’s “Whore of Babylon” symbolizes sin, pride, and rebellion. Some link it to nations like the USA, citing parallels in global influence and material excess. Reflect on whether America fits this imagery.

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The Book of Revelation describes the Whore of Babylon as a figure or entity representing ultimate sin, pride, and rebellion against God (Revelation 17:1-6). Scholars and theologians have long debated its modern application, with some suggesting it symbolizes a nation, system, or culture marked by excess, immorality, and influence over the world.

Revelation 17:2 speaks of the Whore of Babylon committing spiritual “adultery” with kings and intoxicating the earth’s inhabitants. The imagery of power, wealth, and moral decay resonates with characteristics observed in various cultures, including contemporary ones. The United States, known for its global influence, material wealth, and cultural exports, is sometimes linked to this symbolism. Others point to America’s role in global politics and its cultural dominance as potential similarities.

Revelation 17:4 emphasizes wealth and luxury, while Revelation 17:6 highlights persecution of God’s people, inviting reflection on how these characteristics might manifest today. Could America’s complex legacy of faith, culture, and power align with the description of Babylon, or is this connection unfounded?

What do you think? Is the USA the Whore of Babylon, or do you see another interpretation? Let’s explore these questions together in light of Revelation 17.

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No, it is not. That would be the Roman Empire more than likely.

Why do you think Rome fits the description, especially when, at one time, the British Empire was so large that the “sun never set” on it?

Because Revelation is not about our time period. I can provide scholarly references if you want but it won’t be today. The US was not around, and Britain was to become subjugated by Rome, was not a nation itself.

Revelation is typically assigned to roughly 100 AD. In the new book I’m reading, however, scholar Paula Fredriksen assigns it to a more plausible date of 68-73 AD - meaning right in the middle of, or immediately after, the Jewish revolt of 66-70 AD that resulted in the destruction of the Second Temple, the leveling of Jerusalem, and pretty much the end of Judaism as it had previously been known.

Revelation is clearly, without any doubt, talking about Rome and Nero (whose name meshes perfectly with 666 and the variant reading of 616 and who, it was rumored, would return from a fatal head wound after his death in 68). It makes little sense for it to have been written in 100 AD, although it’s possible the final version wasn’t in place until that date. The point of the apocalyptic genre is not to predict future events but to encourage and strengthen those who are experiencing the sort of disaster the Jews of 66-70 and thereafter were experiencing.

The standard modern narrative is that Revelation of course applied to Rome, right down the line, which cannot be denied, but “also” applies to similar events on a larger scale far in the distant future. One can certainly believe this, but there is little reason to do so. The inclusion of Revelation in the NT canon was controversial, and Thomas Jefferson called it the “ravings of a madman, no more coherent than our nightly dreams.” That’s a bit harsh, but I believe Revelation strictly applies to events of the first century, specifically the 70’s (which makes me a Preterist) and that the current evangelical obsession with applying it to contemporary events is one of the most embarrassing aspects of modern Christianity.

That being said, I listen to Jan Markell’s “Understanding the Times” program almost every Sunday just because it’s a hoot and I’m fascinated that seemingly sane people actually think this way. Radio - Olive Tree Ministries

BTW, Revelation fans, many people don’t realize that Postmillennialism was the standard position until the 20th century. Since Premillennialism is now the rage, many people think this was always the case. No, the standard position was that the world was IN the Millennium and getting better every day. Two World Wars, the Holocaust and the advent of nuclear weapons caused a rethinking of that fantasy, so now Premilennialism occupies center stage,

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^^^what he said. This is not a prophecy for America

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I prefer an early date of writing as well, for a host of reasons. Foremost among them is that it’s almost inconceivable that ALL or any of scriptural text to have been written post-destruction-of-Jerusalem, without mention of it. Your theory of a later compilation of writings makes the most sense to me, as the ‘book’ of Revelation reads like a journal of dreams, which occur over time, but not in a chronological sense. Somebody came along later and assembled the entries into a compendium.

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Babylon NEVER infers or implies Rome, Italy. Babylon can only imply Confusion, false religion, or literal Babylon.

Try reading some scholarly works on the topic. Rome is the most agreed upon answer outside of fundamentalism and Pentecostalism.

No. The USA is not “the whore of Babylon”. Next question…

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I heard she moved back to California. Now she’s the whore of Brentwood.

The New Testament in the target language is my favorite tool for getting up to speed in a new language. Including NT Greek. During the 1980’s, I read through the Greek NT once a year. First time through, I understood perhaps 30% of what I read. Second time, 40%. By the end of that decade, I could read through Αποκαλυψις in two sittings, with exquisite delight. If you love God’s Word, reading parts in the words God originally used is a great joy.

The following essay was inspired by my trek through the Turkish NT:

Denizden ve yerden çıkan canavarlar (Bölüm 13)

John wrote to a specific group of people about the specific trials they faced. It’s interesting to note, however, how often history repeats itself. Apparently, if we fail to learn its lessons, we need to repeat the grade.

In this chapter, John sees a beast arising from “the sea.” The sea is, throughout the Bible, a word-picture of humanity – dark, turbulent, acted upon by exterior forces. The Beast from the sea is, obviously, both Rome and Caesar. The Caesar is, obviously, Nero. The dude who used to dress up in an animal costume with razor-sharp steel claws, to tear into chained captives in the arena. The chapter uses a discrete code to label Nero – if you spell out Caesar Nero in Hebrew characters and add up the numeric values of those letters, you get 666. The Roman empire was in the midst of a turbulent period. At one point, it had five emperors in less than a year. Yet somehow Rome managed to pull itself together and stagger on for another four centuries.

The beast I’m fascinated by, however, is the Beast from The Land. Which land? THE Land – Israel. After this (Bundan sonra) … well, let’s let John use his own words:

Bundan sonra bir canavar gördüm. Yerden çıkan bu canavarın kuzu gibi iki boynuzu vardı, ama ejderha gibi ses çıkarıyordu.

And, today’s word list:

  • kuzu gibi – like a lamb
  • ejderha gibi – like a dragon

Like a lamb, this beast had two horns. Like a dragon, it spoke. Knowing where this beast arose, The Land of Israel, its identity is easy to discern. As you recall, the ruling class of first-century Israel both resented Rome (the Pharisees) and depended on Rome for their political power (the Sadducees). When push came to shove, when the rulers of Israel confronted the Messiah, God’s King of Israel, they said, “We have no king but Caesar.”

They pledged allegiance to God’s enemy, and the ultimate enemy of their people. Their immediate descendants paid the price for that misplaced loyalty.

Yet, time after time, we see God’s people functioning as “Sampsons in reverse,” propping up enemies of God and man. Israel’s ruling class provided a credibility transplant to Rome, that helped Rome over a rough spot in their history. The Soviet experiment was funded with American money during the “New Economic Policy,” the “Lend-Lease program,” the post-Stalin “thaw,” “detente,” and “glasnost.”

Finally, here in America Christian parents are politely cooperating with the godless plan for their extermination by “rendering unto Caesar that which is God’s.” Christian parents support secular humanism by willingly providing this beast with the feedstock and fodder it demands – the bodies, minds, and souls of their children. As public education has become ever-more consistent to the dreams of its founding fathers, Horace Mann and John Dewey, those who go through the intestines of this leviathan emerge quite changed. Unlike “weasel coffee,” it’s not for the better. Very few are able to think like Christians any more – although they may “feel” and emote in culturally sanctioned ways.

Yet, every proud enemy of the gospel eventually collapses under its own weight. And we can hasten that glorious day by simply refusing to provide artificial life support to godless systems.

The article from Crosswalk.com titled “What Is the Whore of Babylon and What Do We Need to Know about Her?” offers a basic overview of the symbolic figure described in Revelation 17. It reflects common evangelical interpretations, presenting the Whore of Babylon as a symbol of sin, pride, and opposition to God.

It briefly touches on various possibilities, including views that link this figure to modern nations such as the United States, based on perceived parallels in global dominance and material excess.

Although the article mentions several interpretations, it does not explore them in depth or engage much with the biblical text directly. It lacks detailed exegesis and theological analysis.

For anyone wanting to go deeper, it would be better to consult serious commentaries or works by biblical scholars that deal with the historical and literary context of Revelation. Those kinds of sources will give a much richer picture of the symbolism and how it fits into the whole canon of Scripture.

So to sum it up, the Crosswalk.com article provides a scripturally safe starting point and is fine for those looking for a general introduction. But for real understanding, especially of a text as layered and apocalyptic as Revelation, it is important to dig into more substantial academic and theological material.

Just my opinion.

Johann.

My answer to your first question is “No!” My reason is that the whole world is driven by self-centeredness, my definition of “sin,” that prostitutes itself with many false gods, including American trends.