I thought the topic was for us to give our response whether or not the military should ban transgender service members? As much as some enjoy arguing and attacking by using terms like judgemental name calling ( Bigotry) Or ask why I am concerned about a person’s gender? When one person on this forum says that he showers with someone of the opposite sex in an open stall - Quote: Why not? There is nothing wrong with taking a shower in the same open stall as biological women I do it all the time].That is a sinful thing…shame on you. We obviously are NOT serving the same God !! … some get their feelings hurt about asking a simple question with sincerity: "are you a Christian? " We are called to be salt and light not to eat off of the table of the devil and off the table of the Lord.The word tells us to [1 Peter 1:16
because it is written, **Be ye holy ; for I am holy
Everything about my God is holy…And I read out of the Holy Bible, not the queen james version.
You can kick and scream and build a house of straw but the big bad wolf will huff and puff and blow your house down !! If there are those that choose to patty-cake with sin an un-godliness that is their choice,they can even support the LGBTQ and sing cumbayah around the campfire with them they can do that also But we should stand for Jesus and let the world go by.We are to love the sinner but hate the sin…We should love what God loves and hate what He hates !! We are in the world, but not of the world. Two sexes (which are genders) male and female…then there are those that are delusional and have deep seated emotional and mental problems which Jesus can heal and deliver from if they will truly repent.
Benny,
Ah yes, the classic move: quote a few tender verses wildly out of context and hope no one notices you’re building a doctrine with emotional glue and zero exegetical nails. Let’s break this down before the theological foundation collapses under its own weight.
“They are living true to THEIR nature…”
That right there is the issue. Their nature? Since when does fallen human nature get the final say? Jeremiah 17:9 says, “The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Who can understand it?” That includes your nature, my nature, and their nature. Christianity isn’t about being “true to yourself”—it’s about dying to yourself (Luke 9:23). You don’t baptize confusion and call it authenticity.
“They are most definitely NOT mentally unstable!”
Says who—YouTube? TikTok? A culture that can’t define “woman” without stuttering through five academic buzzwords and a trigger warning? Romans 1 says what it says: when a society rejects God’s truth, He gives them over to a depraved mind. That’s not my diagnosis—it’s divine judgment. And if someone can’t tell which bathroom to use but wants to command a battalion, that’s not courage—it’s confusion on parade.
“Your opinion that their choice of sexuality is demonic and wicked…”
Correction: not my opinion. It’s God’s. The Word pulls no punches. Ephesians 5:11: “Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.” If something runs contrary to the design of the Creator, it’s not just wrong—it’s rebellion. And when a movement openly targets children, undermines God’s created order, and demands affirmation at gunpoint? Yes, that smells a lot like something sulfuric.
“2 Samuel 1:26? John 13:23? Ruth 1:16-17?”
Now we’re just playing hermeneutical hopscotch. David grieving Jonathan? Jesus reclining near John? Ruth pledging loyalty to Naomi? Beautiful friendships, yes. But using those to sneak homoerotic meaning into the text is a theological Rorschach test—you’re reading in what isn’t there because culture taught you to squint funny at Scripture. None of those passages involve sex, romance, or rainbow flags—just covenant love, loyalty, and intimacy the way God designed it: pure, powerful, and platonic.
So no, they don’t know “who they are.” That’s the tragedy. They’re living in a culture that tells them lies so convincingly, they mistake it for truth. And the Church’s job is to lovingly, boldly, relentlessly point them back to the One who does know who they are: their Creator, not their feelings.
Sincere Seeker I beleieve your replay was in repsonse to another member’s post - I stand unashamabley on the word of God which prohibits not only sexual immorality, but for a woman to wear a garment that pertains to a man and for a man to be effeminate. My, we have certainly come a long ways from the ole’ time preaching of holiness or hell
Ah, you’re right.
Apologies!
No sweat my brother…I figured you had make a mistake. Definately not WOKE and NOT liberal here !
I have read extreme fundamentalist, judgmental posts before, but this one is really “over the top”. Are you really saying that someone isn’t a Christian if they don’t think as judgmentally as you? That is ridiculous.
You should start by paying attention to what was written. You rise up in judgment about my showering with a biological female. => She happens to be my WIFE <= Is there something sinful to you about showering with my wife? How about watching a movie? Playing cards? Not wearing all black clothes? Those are all sinful to some fundamentalists.
And you say that because I behave in ways that I think are alright with God, “we obviously not serving the same God!!”. => WHAT KIND OF BLASPHEMY IS THAT??? <= Are you familiar with the parable Jesus told about the Pharisee and the tax collector?
Your implication that I am not “as Christian” as you are and that I eat off the same table as the devil is SINFUL and definitely not motivated by the Holy Spirit. Who are you to judge my faith??? I behave as God clearly directs. => MY GOAL IS TO PLEASE HIM, NOT PEOPLE WHO ARE UNABLE TO LOVE OTHERS AS THEMSELVES <=
Your righteous attitude toward me is clearly the reason many people turn away from Christianity. And your attitude about reading out of the “Holy Bible not the queen james version” says more about your attitude toward others than you realize. (There are better translations than the 514-year-old version created by a tyrant to glorify himself.)
And you are NOT capable of blowing my house down no matter how much hot air you spew. Is that really what you call standing for Jesus? It is the exact opposite of washing one another’s feet!
=> LOVE THE SINNER, NOT THE SIN! <=
Benny,
You lit the fuse, so let’s walk through the fire—with the Word, not wounded feelings.
First, no one’s scandalized by you showering with your wife. Congratulations on marriage and indoor plumbing. But that’s a distraction, not a defense. Nobody said soap and matrimony were sins. What was actually challenged was your idea that you can define what’s “alright with God” based on your feelings rather than His Word. That’s not faith—it’s freelancing.
“I behave as God clearly directs.”
You sure about that? Because “God clearly directs” through Scripture, not vibes and personal preferences. And when someone measures your behavior against that Scripture and finds a mismatch, that’s not arrogance—that’s accountability. 2 Timothy 3:16 says the Word is for correction too, not just coffee mugs and wedding ceremonies.
“Are you saying I’m not a Christian?”
No, but if someone consistently rejects God’s authority, redefines sin, and defends rebellion, what should we call that? James 2:17 reminds us: faith without works is dead. And no, that’s not legalism—it’s fruit inspection.
“What kind of blasphemy is that?”
You throw that word around like it’s punctuation. Blasphemy is slandering the character of God. Saying “we don’t serve the same God” when one person follows Scripture and another blesses what God condemns? That’s not blasphemy—it’s a reality check.
“You’re the reason people leave Christianity.”
False. People don’t leave Christ because someone quoted too much Bible. They leave because they want a gospel that rubber-stamps their desires. Jesus offended the crowds, flipped tables, and told folks to eat His flesh. He didn’t water down truth to keep butts in seats.
“Queen James version…”
Oh, so calling out a blasphemous, rewritten “Bible” that literally edits out verses condemning homosexuality is offensive now? If a Bible translation edits God’s Word to make it more palatable to sin, it’s not a translation—it’s a counterfeit.
“Love the sinner, not the sin!”
Yes—love them enough to warn them. Love them enough to say, “That path leads to destruction.” Jesus washed feet, yes—but He also told the woman caught in adultery, “Go and sin no more.” If your version of love never risks offending someone in sin, then it’s not agape love—it’s cowardice in a cardigan.
No, I’m not blowing your house down. I’m just holding up a mirror. If it cracks, don’t blame the reflection—blame the foundation.
Look wise one…you are the joker that responded to showering in open stalls with a member of the opposite sex. I never knew anyone had an open stall shower in their home. You know good and well I was not speaking about what is done in the confines of marriage. The topic is about in the military, not with your wife in your own home. I haven’t “judged” anyone’s faith- You cleverly diverted the topic and the subject to playing cards and wearing all black clothes - lol
I would MUCH rather be a judgemental fundamentalist that a liberal compromised jelly fish (not calling you that -just refering to the alternative).
Amen Brother Sincere Seeker !!