# What Movie (Secular or Christian) Shows the Gospel? **URL:** \ **Category:** Entertainment\ **Created:** [September 20, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740 "2024-09-20T16:15:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![leah.arthur](https://forums.crosswalk.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@leah.arthur](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/leah.arthur)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/1 "2024-09-20T16:15:04Z")
![preview (8)](https://forums.crosswalk.com/uploads/default/original/1X/d5feb8d4641de39e41838955f0c9449d9c21a101.webp) For me, more than any other Christian-labeled movie, _The Lord of the Rings_ will always be the most impactful, stunning piece of art/media. Even though it wasn’t marketed as a “Christian” film, it has clear connections to the gospel simply by being from Tolkien. There are so many beautiful Christian themes. A humble king returning to the throne. God using even the smallest person to change the course of the future. Deep, sacrificial friendship. The clear fight between light and darkness. I also love _Narnia_ for this reason. Both films make me cry because of how they remind me of Christ’s love for us every time. What movie for you, secular or Christian, reminds you of the gospel? Here’s a [great article](https://www.crosswalk.com/slideshows/20-inspiring-secular-movies-with-christian-themes.html) that lists some more. ---
**Author:** ![Karen](https://forums.crosswalk.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@Karen](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/Karen)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/2 "2024-09-20T19:13:23Z")
The one about the professor and student. The student proves that God does exists. Don’t know the name of it ---
**Author:** ![leah.arthur](https://forums.crosswalk.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/71e660/32.png) [@leah.arthur](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/leah.arthur)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/3 "2024-09-20T19:29:26Z")
_God’s Not Dead_? From 2014? ---
**Author:** ![Karen](https://forums.crosswalk.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@Karen](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/Karen)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/4 "2024-09-21T15:58:07Z")
Yes that is the movie ---
**Author:** ![MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/mre/32/1386_2.png) [@MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/MrE)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/5 "2024-09-21T17:25:50Z")
I love both! It makes such intellectual sense to me that Tolkein and Lewis were contemporaries and friends-- both wrote such inspirational stories and created their own genres, certainly feeding off one another for inspiration over a few pints at a local pub. How great would it have been to sit in on their conversations. Theology, politics, current events… their talks would have included all. Did they call each other by initials? Hey JRR… let me bounce an idea off you… Sure, CS… let’s hear it. ---
**Author:** ![Fritzpw\_Admin](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/fritzpw_admin/32/250_2.png) [@Fritzpw\_Admin](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/Fritzpw_Admin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/6 "2024-09-21T19:41:43Z")
Actually, Lewis was often referred to as Jack. 🙂 I sooo would have loved to have been a fly on the wall of that pub. ---
**Author:** ![MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/mre/32/1386_2.png) [@MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/MrE)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/7 "2024-09-22T15:21:15Z")
You would probably just Hi Jack the conversation. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/mre/32/1386_2.png) [@MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/MrE)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/8 "2024-09-22T16:19:16Z")
I wonder how many here see the gospel represented in these movies in a general sense, without diving deep into theological positions… I mean it’s an easy chip shot to say-- of course, Return of the King is a creative and artistic telling of the gospel, but is it meant to be? Tolkein was Catholic and he uses rich symbolism throughout his tale, yet there is no Christ figure per se. The return of the king is the return of Aragon, not back from the dead, but as a triumph of good over evil. Lewis is far more direct and more definitively Christian in his treatment of Aslan as a Christ figure. Yet the Narnia tales also point toward a gentle treatment of a sort of reincarnation process, where his characters appear and reappear in future eras, future roles and settings. I like this song from the show… that plays on the life after death theme in a way that many Christians would openly reject. [![](https://forums.crosswalk.com/uploads/default/original/1X/f794efe9567f3e499367806ff851c401fca8c6ba.jpeg " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_8rFrJxWGU) ---
**Author:** ![Fritzpw\_Admin](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/fritzpw_admin/32/250_2.png) [@Fritzpw\_Admin](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/Fritzpw_Admin)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/9 "2024-09-22T18:26:59Z")
Lewis firmly stated that the Chronicles were never meant to be an allegory, despite many Christians interpreting them as such. Instead, the deep faith of both Tolkien and Lewis naturally permeated their storytelling, shaping their narratives in a way that reflected their beliefs without being overtly intentional. ---
**Author:** ![Historyprof](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/historyprof/32/285_2.png) [@Historyprof](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/Historyprof)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/10 "2024-09-22T19:20:20Z")
Tender Mercies is a story of mercy after a life is destroyed by alcohol ---
**Author:** ![MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/mre/32/1386_2.png) [@MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/MrE)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/11 "2024-09-23T15:32:41Z")
I don’t think anyone here in this conversation referenced Lewis as allegory. To say that the rich symbolism and Christian themes that permeate the writing of both was ‘unintentional’ would be gross error. Of course it was intentional, or it wouldn’t be there. It wasn’t accidental. You could argue that it was intentionally _covert,_ meaning obscured on purpose-- but it’s clearly intended. I would contend that CS Lewis was without question overtly Christian in his story telling. How could you say it wasn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Fritzpw\_Admin](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/fritzpw_admin/32/250_2.png) [@Fritzpw\_Admin](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/Fritzpw_Admin)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/12 "2024-09-23T18:30:20Z")
> [@MrE](#): > > I don’t think anyone here in this conversation referenced Lewis as allegory. You are correct, I have not seen that here but I have heard it in many other conversations both offline and on. I’m only stating what Lewis stated himself… that the Chronicles of Narnia was not intended to be an allegory. I believe his faith was strong and was naturally reflected in his writing… a good tree bearing good fruit. ---
**Author:** ![Rev12\_11](https://forums.crosswalk.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@Rev12\_11](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/Rev12_11)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/13 "2024-09-23T20:46:26Z")
Duuuude! That’s the corniest joke ever! 😆 😆 ---
**Author:** ![MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/mre/32/1386_2.png) [@MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/MrE)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/14 "2024-09-24T03:15:49Z")
How about ‘The Matrix’ trilogy? Can we see the gospel in The Matrix? ---
**Author:** ![Fritzpw\_Admin](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/fritzpw_admin/32/250_2.png) [@Fritzpw\_Admin](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/Fritzpw_Admin)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/15 "2024-09-24T12:41:25Z")
There are so many strong messages in that movie. ---
**Author:** ![MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/mre/32/1386_2.png) [@MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/MrE)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/16 "2024-09-24T14:18:01Z")
I have a good friend in Colorado whom I first connected with online, but subsequently have visited in person and keep in touch with. He taught me to look at many things differently, but foremost among them-- dreams. When I think of that Matrix series, I think in terms of something he once said to me… ‘Maybe your dream, is dreaming you.’ Which was the reality in the Matrix? Weren’t all those people plugged into pods the reality? When I look around the world at all the craziness I wonder– ---
**Author:** ![MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/user_avatar/forums.crosswalk.com/mre/32/1386_2.png) [@MrE](https://forums.crosswalk.com/u/MrE)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.crosswalk.com/t/what-movie-secular-or-christian-shows-the-gospel/2740/17 "2024-09-24T14:29:26Z")
Dad jokes are my specialty.