I am not sure what your point is. So, Albuquerque is a dangerous place. Is there some connection between that and immigration across the southern border? Who is comkiting those crimes? (Evidence please.)
Again, blaming crime on a class of people who immgrate across the southern border is nothing but racist propaganda.
I am not name calling, any more than you are. I say what I believe to be true. Some people clearly behave like bigots and Pharisres.
I don’t love terrorists. Howvcan you even suggest such an absurd thing?
Don’t you realize that by far the greatest percentage of immigrants are here legally but Trump demonizes all of them.
Did you know that Elon Musk arrived as an illegal immigrant?
And Trump’s grandfather was a German immigrant?
The whole issue revolves around bigotry and hatred; justice simply doesn’t matter.
Pure fantasy! That is not “due process”. A person can be a legal immigrant but not yet a citizen. Try getting your facts straight.
Benny, when someone starts a sentence with “I’m not name-calling,” and ends it with “bigots and Pharisees,” they’ve basically brought the stones to the stoning and then claimed clean hands.
Let’s unpack the rest:
No one said you love terrorists. But if you oppose deporting them because of how Trump talks, then you’re letting rhetoric override righteousness. That’s not moral high ground—it’s emotional quicksand.
Most immigrants are legal? Absolutely. No one’s arguing otherwise. That’s why they’re not the ones being deported. Trump didn’t demonize “all immigrants.” He targeted illegal entry and criminal activity. If your outrage can’t distinguish between a gang member and a green card holder, you’re not defending justice—you’re blurring it.
Elon Musk? Entered on a student visa and later adjusted status legally. That’s not illegal immigration. That’s a legal process. Let’s not rewrite biographies to fit talking points.
Trump’s ancestry? Yes, his family immigrated—legally. Again, that’s not the issue. The debate is about lawlessness, not lineage.
And finally: “Justice doesn’t matter”? That statement right there is the real tragedy. Justice matters deeply—to God, to Scripture, and to every person who played by the rules. Mercy without justice isn’t compassion. It’s corruption.
Bigotry isn’t calling out illegal behavior.
Bigotry is refusing to apply the same standard to everyone—legal or not.
Leftist progressives like to patty cake by painting with broad strokes and diverting attention to justify their lack of reality. I really cannot see that Harris would have been a better choice. Bigot, Racist Fundamental. Right Wing Trump supporter here (or so I have been called)…don’t forget Southern Gun Owner also - that can be added into your psychological profile if you like
Send them all back …they can stand in line
LOL!!! It’s clear that you have swallowed the full right-wing propaganda package. What a farce!
Prime example: You say that Karris, a black woman, is a bigot and a racist. She is a VICTIM of bigotry and racism!
Oh, we’ve got ourselves a classic forum bonfire brewing—labels flying, sarcasm dripping, and substance circling the drain. Time to inject some clarity and calm without letting the truth get trampled.
Here’s what I suggest posting to reframe the tone and replant the conversation in something resembling sanity:
Hold up, both of you.
BrotherDavid, throwing down the whole “send them all back” line might feel cathartic, but it’s about as useful to this discussion as yelling “fire” in a theology class. Immigration policy isn’t fixed by slogans—it’s fixed by restoring order under the law. That means securing the border and respecting due process. If someone’s here illegally, yes—line up or ship out. But we don’t need to turn this into a bumper sticker contest.
And Benny, “LOL” and identity politics don’t make a point—they dodge one. No one said Harris is a bigot because she’s Black. That’s your leap, not anyone else’s. If someone calls out her ideology, that’s not racism—it’s disagreement. We’re not doing the race card tap dance every time someone critiques a leftist.
Can we stop the tribal name-calling and get back to actual issues? Like maybe how immigration law works, what the Constitution says, and how we apply justice without weaponizing skin color or political tribes?
If we can’t do that, we’re not debating—we’re just flinging memes with keyboards.
Let’s elevate this. Or at least stop digging.
A post was merged into an existing topic: What Did Jesus Really Mean by “Love Your Neighbor”?
Are you a Native American? If not, why should some immigrants be deported but not others? Are all immigrants evil in your eyes?
Do you really want to spend tens of thousand dollars feeding, housing, and trying each of ten million immigrants who came into your country when Joe Biden opened up the southern border? You know we can’t do that. Due process for illegal immigrants is to catch them and send them back where they came from. I’ve got no problem giving them a hearing to prove they are United States citizens.
Due process isn’t a luxury we apply when it’s affordable—it’s a constitutional requirement, not a budget item. We don’t waive the rule of law because the numbers are high. That’s not justice—that’s panic policy.
And no, we don’t need to give each person a full courtroom drama. But we do need a process that confirms identity and status before deporting someone. Because mistakes happen. Citizens have been wrongfully deported before. That’s not compassion—that’s incompetence with consequences.
If the system’s overwhelmed, fix the system. But don’t burn the Constitution because enforcement is expensive. The law doesn’t disappear when the numbers get inconvenient.
Donald Trump fixed the system the first day in office. Illegals have all but stopped crossing into our country. But what do we do about the 10 million that came in while Joe Biden was in office? The answer is simple: deport them. If someone can prove they are a citizen of the United States, let them stay.
Stopping illegal crossings is one thing—dealing with millions already here is another. “Just deport them” sounds simple until you run into reality: false positives, mixed-status families, asylum seekers, legal residents, and yes—actual citizens wrongly caught in the dragnet.
You can’t run mass deportation on gut instinct and paperwork checks at gunpoint. That’s not justice—that’s bureaucracy with a bulldozer.
Want to deport 10 million? Fine. Build the infrastructure. Hire the judges. Follow the law. But skip due process and you’re not enforcing the system—you’re gutting it.
If Trump fixed the system, great. Let’s use it legally—not like we’re playing whack-a-mole with people’s rights.
Why is this even being discussed? Has Trump so poisoned people’s minds? The subject is deporting “foreign terrorists”. Of course, if someone is actually a foreign “terrorist” (whatever that means) and they are tried and convicted in the US legal system, then s/he can probably be deported. However, what is really happening now?
People are being deported because they supposedly have certain tattoos, and without due process. Trump declares certain people to be terrorists and, using an archaic act (which is no longer relevant), puts them on a plane without due process. He simply chooses certain people (without legal basis) and puts them on a plane to a notorious foreign prison (which isn’t even in their own country) and, when the court rules the action illegal, proceeds anyway.
How does that in any way resemble the US system of justice?
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A CITIZEN TO HAVE LEGAL RIGHTS! Otherwise, it’s a dictatorship.
“Illegals” is the term du jour to inflame people’s bigotry, and they have NOT “all but stopped crossing into our country”. Many people are still crossing the southern border. They crossed during Trump’s term of office as well as Biden’s.
And => SOMEONE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A CITIZEN TO REMAIN IN THE US <= Many people have entered this country legally and are “on the path” to citizenship. To deport them is TYRANNY.
It’s President Trump’s constitutional duty to enforce immigration laws. That is what he is doing. I’m trying to figure out why Democrats are opposed to this.
It is the president’s duty to enforce immigration laws—no argument there. The issue isn’t what Trump is doing, it’s how he’s doing it.
When enforcement respects the Constitution and follows due process, there’s no legitimate objection. But when shortcuts get taken—like using the Alien Enemies Act to bypass standard legal channels—courts push back, and rightly so.
Democrats aren’t all opposed to enforcement. What they are opposed to is when enforcement starts to trample rights, ignore the courts, or paint every immigrant with the same brush.
If Trump sticks to the law, let the enforcement roll. But if the method starts to look more like muscle than justice, expect pushback—from Democrats, from courts, and from anyone who actually reads the Constitution.
Donald Trump has taken an oath to obey the Constitution. The Constitution requires he enforce our immigration laws. Therefore, if you are an illegal immigrant, he has to deport you.
a) Donald Trump has repeatedly shown that he has no regard for the Constitution.
b) There is NOTHING in the Constitution regarding immigration laws.
c) The people that Trump has deported have not gone through the legal process. They were put on a plane in violation of the law and when a judge ordered the plane to return to the US so that the “illegal immigrants” would go through the legal process, THE ORDER WAS IGNORED.
d) They were illegally sent to a notorious prison that is not in their native country. (The US paid them to take the people).
IF a) someone is charged with being in the US illegally, b) s/he is given a fair hearing in a court of law, c) it is determined that s/he is guilty of violating immigration law, then a suitable penalty should be imposed.
THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT TRUMP DEPORTED! Either we are a nation of laws or we have a dictator who acts illegally.
Trump has people BRAINWASHED!!!