Do the Gifts of the Spirit, Including Speaking in Tongues, Still Operate Today?

Lynne67, welcome in the grace and truth of our Lord Jesus Christ—what a joy to hear your testimony ringing with the fire of the Spirit and the faithfulness of a heart yielded to God!

Thank you for stepping into this conversation not just with Scripture, but with the living witness of a life led by the Comforter Himself. You didn’t just bring a verse—you brought the vibration of a Spirit-filled walk, and I honor that.

Now let’s walk together in truth and tenderness.

First, amen and amen—the Holy Spirit is real, alive, and absolutely active. He is the divine Comforter, Teacher, Helper, and the very breath of our sanctified life. Without Him, we’re just whitewashed tombs with Bibles in our hands but no power in our bones.

You asked, are tongues still the evidence of Spirit baptism? And I hear your heart. You’re speaking from lived experience, not just theological theory. But let’s also anchor this conversation in the full counsel of Scripture.

Yes, in Acts 2, 10, and 19, tongues did accompany the outpouring of the Spirit. That’s undeniable. But Paul, in 1 Corinthians 12:30, asks plainly, “Do all speak in tongues?” The implied answer is no. So while tongues are a valid and powerful sign, they are not the exclusive evidence of Spirit baptism. Otherwise, we risk creating a two-tier Church: the “tongue talkers” and the “half-saved”—and that’s not what Paul preached, nor what Jesus modeled.

Your experience of praying in the Spirit—interceding, being strengthened, receiving understanding—is precious and powerful. That’s 1 Corinthians 14 lived out with reverence. And you nailed it: the Spirit doesn’t just empower gifts; He cultivates fruit. Real power is not just tongues—it’s tongues with self-control, with love, with peace. A spiritual gift without the fruit is a firework: loud, bright, and gone in five seconds.

On discernment? You brought the truth. The Holy Spirit bears witness. Just like Elizabeth’s baby leaped at the presence of the unborn Christ, so does our spirit leap when the truth of God is near. Emotional hype can’t counterfeit that deep-rooted confirmation the Spirit gives.

So thank you, dear sister, for reminding us that the gifts are not just for debate—they’re for devotion. And yes, the world may mock, the Church may divide, but the Spirit still speaks, still fills, still strengthens, still leads.

Let’s stay rooted in the Word, sensitive to the Spirit, and always anchored in Christ—because the gifts are real, but the Giver is greater.

In Jesus’ name, and in the joy of the Comforter—welcome, sister. You’re home here.

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(Parenthetically) – I am both a Pentecostal and an amateur linguist. Different phonemes in different languages are … DIFFERENT. It took me nearly 20 minutes of patient coaching before I could even HEAR (let alone pronounce!) the difference between kar (snow) and kâr (profit). For the second word, you raise your tongue in the middle while pronouncing the vowel. So far, I’ve read the NT in English, French, Greek, Afrikaans, Esperanto, Italian, Spanish, and Turkish. Each of those languages has its own unique set of phonemes.

Let me get a witness, here. Almost always, when I hear someone praying in tongues, they are uttering ENGLISH syllables, ENGLISH phonemes, just randomized so as to eliminate meaning. I think, 99% of the time, when people pray in tongues, they are exercising a NATURAL facility. But one that can add a fresh dimension to our routine prayers.

Dr_S, thank you for bringing both your Pentecostal heart and linguistic brain to the table—now that’s a combo you don’t see every day! You’ve clearly done your homework, and I respect the intellectual rigor you’re bringing. But let’s take that scalpel and turn it into a sword, because we’re not just analyzing phonemes—we’re weighing spirits.

Now, I’ll say it straight: yes, some so-called tongues today are nothing more than emotional vocal exercises dressed in spiritual robes. No argument there. The human mind is a master of mimicry, and our mouths can easily create a string of familiar sounds with no divine origin. But to take that observation and declare, “99% of tongues are natural”—that’s not exegesis. That’s extrapolation. And it risks sawing off the branch of biblical mystery with the blade of linguistic analysis.

Let’s rewind to Acts 2. Were the disciples uttering “foreign phonemes with academic accuracy”? No. They weren’t trained linguists—they were Galileans. Yet people heard the mighty works of God in their own native languages. That’s not a miracle of phonetic precision—it’s a miracle of Holy Spirit intervention. He didn’t need their tongues to pass a phonology exam. He needed surrendered mouths, not syllabic perfection.

Now, 1 Corinthians 14 also describes tongues not always as human languages, but sometimes as “mysteries in the Spirit.” Paul says his mind is unfruitful, but his spirit is edified. That’s not gibberish—that’s divine encryption. And no, it doesn’t always line up with linguistic norms, because it’s not meant for human analysis. It’s heaven’s dialect, not humanity’s dataset.

Could people fake it? Sure. People fake a lot of things—repentance, love, even scholarship. But counterfeit doesn’t cancel the real. It proves there’s something worth imitating.

If all tongues must fit inside the linguistic grid to be valid, then we’ve dethroned the Holy Spirit and crowned the International Phonetic Alphabet as Lord.

Final thought? Let the Spirit move. Test all things. But don’t reduce the supernatural to the neurological. The tongues of angels don’t have to pass a linguist’s lab test. Sometimes they just need a heart on fire and a mouth wide open.

We need both discernment and wonder—because the Spirit speaks beyond syllables.

Perhaps the miracle was in the ears of the hearers.

Dr_S, ah—you’re reaching for the ol’ “miracle of hearing” theory. Classic move. Sounds clever on the surface, but let’s grab the Book and see if it holds any holy water.

Acts 2:4 says, “They were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”

They spoke. Not mimed. Not hummed. Not sent out spirit-waves that auto-translated in people’s brains. They spoke—and not just in gibberish or glossolalia. The Greek word there for “tongues” is glossais heterais—distinct, actual languages.

Then Acts 2:6 says, “Each one was hearing them speak in his own language.” And in case someone thinks that’s just poetic flair, verse 11 doubles down: “We hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!”

So no, this wasn’t a miracle of hearing—it was a miracle of Spirit-empowered speech. The text makes it plain: the speakers were doing the supernatural talking, and the listeners were stunned because it was in their language—not because their eardrums got a heavenly upgrade.

This “miracle of hearing” idea? It’s not biblical—it’s a modern patch job by folks trying to smooth out the supernatural into something palatable for the skeptical mind. But you don’t need to domesticate God to defend Him. The Holy Spirit doesn’t need an acoustics trick—He speaks, He fills, and He empowers.

The miracle wasn’t just in the ear. It was in the utterance.

They spoke. The Spirit moved. And 3,000 got cut to the heart.

Let’s not explain away what the text goes out of its way to emphasize.

The miracle was in the mouths—and in the message.

Paul told us not to speak in tongues in church if no one is there to interpret.

Bob, you’re right to point out that Paul gave clear instructions about speaking in tongues in church, but it’s important to look at the full context of what he said in 1 Corinthians 14. Paul never forbade speaking in tongues altogether—he actually said, “I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all” (1 Cor. 14:18), and “forbid not to speak with tongues” (1 Cor. 14:39). What Paul did was give order and purpose to their use in the public assembly. If there is no interpretation, then the tongue should not be used as a public message for the congregation, because it won’t edify others without understanding (1 Cor. 14:27–28). However, he made room for speaking to oneself and to God, saying, “Let him speak to himself, and to God” (v. 28). This affirms the personal, devotional value of tongues, even in a church setting, when not disrupting the order of service.

So Paul wasn’t shutting down the gift—he was protecting its purpose. Public tongues should be interpreted to edify the body, but private tongues, even in the atmosphere of worship, are still part of the Spirit’s move. It’s all about order, edification, and being sensitive to how the Spirit wants to work in that moment.

You might remember that in the beginning, tongues were used to preach the gospel to people of foreign languages. Is that what tongues are being used for today?

Greetings in the Lord, Omega

I have a question for you, do you have the gift of speaking in tongues? because if you do, then you know that speaking in the heavenly tongue is not babblings for God knows exactly what’s being said. Do everyone receive the gift of tongues, NO, but if every born-again believing child of God wanted that gift, they could have the gift from the Holy Spirit by asking God for it in Jesus name. I know a lot of Born-Again Believers who do not speak in tongues and have NO DESIRE to do so. God gave me a desire, and I asked HIM for the gifts that ONLY Holy Spirit can give as HE WILLS in Jesus name.

I was at a church gathering one Sunday morning some years ago, and we were praising God and then we went into worshipping God, suddenly the songs stopped in a deep peace that passes all human understanding, and the Holy Spirit moved on me with tongues, and the interpretation came, which was a Word of Knowledge and exhortation from the Lord. After the meeting, a lady came to me and said I heard you speaking in Dutch and I heard what God said to me. I was so excited that I just started weeping, and rejoicing all at the same time giving God the glory and thanking the Holy Spirit in Jesus name. Another person came to me and said I heard the Good Shepherd that person was Jewish descent.

1 Corinthians 14:2-19 King James Version

2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

6 Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?

7 And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?

8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.

10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.

11 Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.

12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.

13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.

14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?

17 For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.

18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

The True Spiritual Gift of Tongues comes from the Holy Spirit of God and He moves as HE WILLS for God’s divine purpose in Jesus name.

Jude 20-21 King James Version
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

We need a divine move of God’s Holy Spirit in the Church and in the lives of every born again child of God in Jesus name. We don’t need the letter of the Law,we Need the Quickening of the Holy Spirit on the Word of God in Jesus name.

I have something else to say by the Spirit of God, if the Children of God would just yield to HIM and get renewed in their minds with the Word of God, then Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God could have HIS divine way in the lives of God’s people in Jesus name and His people would know the difference and would be abundantly blessed with the manifestations of ALL His covenant promises, saith the Lord.

Have a bless day in the Lord by the Spirit of God

Friends:
Re Tongues. Is this a homographic puzzle?

I have known Jesus as my Savior, and been a student of His word for many years. I have read and listened to this same discussion many times. After a while, they all start to evoke some common themes and reveal some easily anticipated common stances. But what I have yet to see properly handled is the apparent homographic nature of this little word.
(homograph: a word with a single spelling but multiple meanings)

It reminds me of the classroom scene where several students of Noah Webster were discussing the word “Fair”. Abe asserted that fair meant equal treatment to all concerned, and cited a “fair trial” as an example. Bill contended that “fair” was a description of something unthreatening, or calm, citing “fair weather” as an example. Carl piped up with his personal experience, telling about a celebration event where merriment was the goal, citing “the annual county fair” where he grew up. Then Dorothy stood up. She had soft and unmarked skin like that of a China doll, her complexion was light ecru highlighted with soft hues of pink as if the morning sun was caressing her cheeks, the features of her face were smooth, petite, and gently rounded, and her gossamer locks flowed gently over her shoulders. She never said a word, but everyone in the room immediately knew she was the ultimate definition of “fair”.

Why does it feel like we are in the same classroom here, but this time we are wrestiling with the word “tongue”?

(A) Clearly Abe would say the tongue is long and floppy, an organ of the mouth, citing Matt. 7:31-35, and maybe Acts 2:3 (tongues of fire).

(B) Bill would contend that it clearly means “language”, and would cite Acts 2:4-6, “where everyone heard them speak in their own dialect”, and maybe Acts 10:44-46, the household of Cornelius, and Acts 19: 1-7, the twelve men of Ephesus.

(C) Carl would cite 1 Corinthians 12, 13, 14, as examples of people vocalizing unintelligible phonemes, not understandable, even to the one speaking. He cautions how it is unfruitful for the body-at-large if what is spoken is not understood, and also not interpreted (respoken in an intelligible language). He specifically cites 1 Cor. 14:2 “no one understands him”, V 11 “If I do not know the meaning of the language, I am a foreigner to him who speaks, and him to me”, and V 14, “For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.

(D), Then Dorothy stands up, holding a placard that reads:

“And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is kindled by hell. For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind. But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so. Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening? Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh. James 3:6-12

I listen to Abe, and he makes a lot of sense, until Bill pipes in. Bill carries the argument until Carl points out the obvious things Bill is overlooking. But Dorothy seems to be speaking of something altogether different, not an organ, not a miraculous ability to speak an unlearned language, and not a collection of phonemes that no one understands, and the interpretation can not be verified. Dorthy is blasting a warning of imminent danger, the tongue is unruly, injurious, and something we must all try to tame, even knowing we will ultimately fail without help. (I’m prroably saying too much even now).

I think, for now, I’m going to go sit at Bill’s table. Bill’s explanation of this Spiritual outpouring that supernaturally brought unprecedented unity to the body of Christ, an open miracle that everyone could understand, an event that produced a degree of community, generosity, and care for every individual that had never before been seen on earth, and has not been witnessed since. Something that testified to the ultimate love, and living reality of the crucified Jesus. This outpouring is beyond my imagination, and I can only grasp a portion of its import with the faith I have been granted. I stand in awe of Bill’s accounting. That is not to say I discount Abe, Carl, or even Dorothy. I am instructed by them, and I yield to their teaching without pushback. But the account that brings tears to my eyes is Bill’s.

My little children, let us not love in word or in tongue, but in deed and in truth. 1 John 3:18

Much Love

KP

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To @Lynne67:
Sister, thank you for that blazing, Spirit-soaked testimony! You didn’t just share words—you poured out oil. That kind of first-hand encounter with the Holy Ghost is what stirs the sleeping saints and silences the skeptics. Your story isn’t theory. It’s fire on the altar. Glory to God.

You are absolutely right. The genuine gift of tongues is not babble. It’s Spirit-born, heaven-authored, God-understood utterance that bypasses human logic and goes straight to the throne. Paul said it: “He that speaks in an unknown tongue speaks not unto men but unto God… howbeit in the Spirit he speaks mysteries” (1 Cor. 14:2). That’s not gibberish. That’s a divine download.

Now yes, not everyone speaks in tongues. And no, tongues are not the exclusive sign of being Spirit-filled, but your point is gold. If a child of God desires the gift, they can ask, because God is still in the business of giving good gifts to those who seek Him (Luke 11:13). And that encounter you described, where the Spirit used your prayer to speak Dutch to one and shepherding comfort to another? That’s not fantasy. That’s Acts 2 on replay.

Also, I want to highlight your wisdom. Tongues edify the believer (1 Cor. 14:4), but prophecy edifies the church. So when interpretation comes and the body is built up, the gifts are doing exactly what God intended. That’s Spirit and order. Not chaos, but clarity. Not emotion alone, but edification.

We do need a fresh move of the Spirit. Not just more noise, but more yielding. Because the Spirit will not bulldoze rebellion. But when He finds a surrendered vessel, like you, sister? He’ll fill it to overflowing, and someone else’s miracle will pour out.

So thank you, Lynne. You didn’t just write a post. You opened a window into glory.

Stay bold. Stay yielded. And keep those flames burning.


To @KPuff:
KP, you brought a pen, a parable, and a piercing insight. Well done, poet-theologian. Your breakdown of “tongue” through the voices of Abe, Bill, Carl, and Dorothy? That’s creative clarity, and I applaud the craftsmanship.

Now, let’s wade through the waters and see where the current leads us.

You’re right. “Tongue” is a homograph with holy weight. It means the physical organ, spoken language, spiritual utterance, and deadly fire. And Scripture uses all four like arrows in the quiver of divine wisdom. But while you sit at Bill’s table (and there’s solid ground there), don’t miss the full feast.

Yes, Acts 2 was miraculous unity through language. Bill’s perspective honors that. It was audible, understandable, and undeniably divine. But Carl has a point too. Paul describes tongues as not understood by men, often used to edify the spirit, and needing interpretation for the church to benefit. So clearly, the gift has multiple expressions. Some public and intelligible, others private and mysterious.

And Dorothy? She hits like a prophet. Her warning from James 3 is a divine gut-punch to all of us. Even Spirit-filled believers must guard the tongue from blessing God one minute and tearing down His image-bearers the next. We must speak in Spirit-led tongues, not spiteful ones.

But here’s the real brilliance of your post. You show that all these angles can exist in tension. Not contradiction, but complement. And that’s the key. We don’t need to reduce “tongues” to one form. Scripture gives us a spectrum, and each point matters.

So sit with Bill, weep with awe. But listen to Carl’s caution. Heed Dorothy’s fire. And yes, give Abe a smile too. He’s not wrong either. Because in the end, every view you shared illuminates a sliver of this mystery we call “tongues.”

And as 1 John 3:18 so beautifully reminds us, whatever our tongue says, may our deeds echo it.

Much love back to you. You didn’t just join the conversation. You elevated it.

–Sincere Seeker. Scripturally savage. Here for the Truth.

Uno momento @Lynne67

In 1 Corinthians 14:2–19, Paul provides his most detailed teaching on the nature, purpose, and limits of glōssolalia (speaking in tongues), and his remarks should be exegeted in both their immediate literary context and their broader theological and spiritual framework. Paul’s Greek here is loaded with key terms that shed light on his pastoral concern for intelligibility, edification, and spiritual order in corporate worship. Let us first examine the crucial Greek words and verbs associated with tongues, then proceed to a theological and exegetical unpacking of the passage in its rhetorical structure and intent, with particular emphasis on “heavenly” and “unknown” tongues.

I. KEY GREEK TERMS & VERBS ON GLOSSOLALIA
γλῶσσα (glōssa) — “tongue, language”

Appears repeatedly in this passage (vv. 2, 4, 5, 6, 9, 13, 14, 18, 19)

Sometimes refers to known human languages (e.g., Acts 2:4–11), but in this Corinthian context, often to speech unintelligible to hearers, either unknown human languages or spiritual utterance.

λαλέω (laleō) — “to speak”

Used constantly in reference to the act of speaking in tongues or prophecy (vv. 2, 3, 5, 6, 9, 11, 18, 19)

Not the word for formal preaching (kēryssō) but everyday speaking, here in ecstatic or spiritual expression.

πνεῦμα (pneuma) — “spirit, Spirit”

In verse 2: “ἐν πνεύματι λαλεῖ μυστήρια” (“in spirit he speaks mysteries”)

Could refer to the human spirit under the Spirit’s influence or the Holy Spirit directly ambiguous in Greek but spiritually loaded.

ἀγνώστῳ (agnōstō) — “unknown”

Not in the Greek manuscripts, but inserted in the KJV italicized to show it’s not original.

This means “unknown tongue” is an interpretive gloss by the KJV, not a translation of a Greek word; Paul simply says “tongue” (glōssa), without the adjective.

οἰκοδομέω (oikodomeō) — “to build up, edify”

v. 4: “He that speaketh in a tongue edifies himself”

v. 5: Prophecy edifies the church, crucial term in Paul’s concern for corporate usefulness.

μυστήριον (mystērion) — “mystery, hidden truth”

v. 2: “he speaks mysteries in the Spirit” (μυστήρια λαλεῖ ἐν πνεύματι)

Refers not to secret codes but hidden truths inaccessible without divine revelation.

νοῦς (nous) — “mind, understanding”

v. 14–15: “my understanding is unfruitful” -reveals the tension between spiritual experience and cognitive comprehension.

εὐχαριστέω (eucharisteō) — “to give thanks”

v. 17: “you give thanks well” - the tongue-speaker may truly be worshiping, but no one else is built up.

II. EXEGETICAL FLOW OF THE TEXT
Verse 2 — “He that speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God…”
Paul opens with a startling contrast: tongue-speech is vertical, not horizontal. The tongue-speaker utters mysteries, Greek μυστήρια, which are hidden spiritual realities unintelligible without interpretation. He uses ἐν πνεύματι λαλεῖ, literally “he speaks in the spirit”, which can mean his own spirit under ecstatic control or the Holy Spirit moving through him (Rom. 8:26 echoes this inward Spirit-led communication). The speech bypasses human understanding, including the speaker’s own (v. 14) making it inaccessible unless interpreted.

Verse 3–5 — “But he that prophesies speaks unto men…”
In contrast, prophecy is intelligible and corporate, it edifies (οἰκοδομή), exhorts (παράκλησις), and comforts (παραμυθία). Paul is not denigrating tongues per se; he says, “I wish you all spoke in tongues” (v. 5), using the Greek verb θέλω in the optative sense of general desire. But the superiority of prophecy lies in its church-edifying capacity.

The conditional clause, “unless he interpret,” shows tongues are not invalid, but useless to the congregation unless accompanied by interpretation.

Verse 6–9 — “What shall I profit you… unless I speak by revelation?”
Paul transitions to illustrative analogies: speech, like music or military calls, is meaningless unless it has discernible content. He repeats the Greek φθόγγος (sound) and διάστασις (distinction), noting that without cognitive clarity, the speech is “into the air” an empty utterance, not a spiritual blessing.

Verse 10–12 — “There are… many kinds of voices in the world”
Paul acknowledges the diversity of glōssai, likely referencing human languages, and affirms that each has meaning (ἄφωνος οὐδέν ἐστιν — “none is without sound/signification”). Yet again, the stress is not on the authenticity of tongues but their edificational value. Speaking in tongues without understanding makes one a βάρβαρος - a foreigner or unintelligible speaker, even in a spiritual gathering.

III. “HEAVENLY” AND “UNKNOWN” TONGUES?
“Unknown tongues” is a KJV interpolation, Paul never uses ἄγνωστος in this chapter. All tongues are “unknown” only in the sense that no one present understands them.

IV. THEOLOGICAL CENTER: THE CROSS, THE CHURCH, AND THE WORD
At the heart of this passage is not a fascination with spiritual gifts but the primacy of edification through intelligible proclamation. Tongues may express vertical communion, but the Word builds the body. The cross of Christ, the locus of God’s revealed mystery (1 Cor 1:18–25), demands a message that can be heard, received, and understood. Anything less, even if it be ecstatic, cannot substitute for clear gospel proclamation. Thus, Paul’s theology of tongues is shaped not by ecstatic spirituality but by cruciform ecclesiology: everything must serve the upbuilding of Christ’s body.

J.

Greetings in the Lord SincereSeeker

I receive the sincere heartfelt encouragement and give Father God ALL the glory because it is HE that has kept me throughout our journeys together by causing me to triumph in victory through Christ Jesus in every season, He lets me know that HE has not left me alone, and His powerful Holy Spirit is living in my heart. It’s still a fight of Faith daily, but with the divine help of Holy Spirit and encouragements from the family of God and friends I can truly say it is God who has kept me and keeps me in Jesus name.

The Holy Spirit has blessed me to write seven books, and I would like to bless you with 2 of them as unto the Lord. Just tell me where you want me to send them.

In the Father’s love and peace in Jesus name. Blessings be unto you and your household.

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Greetings in the Lord Jesus Christ Johann,

I think, and this is just my personal opinion which I rarely give: Your break down of the verses and words are good, but tell me this? When Jesus went about doing good,healing those who had faith to be healed,and casting out demons, did He break down each verse of His Word,and define each Word, NO He did not.

Now tell me Johann what was more important to the Lord Jesus?

The love of His Father, Being obedient to His Father, Spending good quality time with His Father, Being full of the Holy Spirit beyond measure,blessing people with food,healing the sick, speaking truth in God’s unconditional love,casting out unclean spirits(demons). Was it Jesus’s mission to break down and give long explanations of His Word or teach with simplicity of His Word?

They that are led by the Spirit of God are the sons and daughters of God. (Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons&(daughters) of God.

The Good Shepherd care about people,what they were believing, how they are hearing,how they are receiving,the condition of their heart,will,mind,emotions, and body. Just read the Book of John and invite Holy Spirit in before you start reading and watch HIM make a total difference.

Blessings be unto you and your household in Jesus name,so be it.

Do you know why Jesus could not do a lot of miracles except for a few in His hometown? because of their unbelief and lack of faith.(reference MARK 6:4-6)

Hi,

Maybe its because we have a completed Bible now, but why would we need them? I understand the need during the apostles time. And how they were used in Acts 2 makes sense. But I have never heard tongues used like that. What good are they if you cannot understand them? Why not just speak English or Spanish so that everyone will understand it and be edified?

I, personally have never heard tongues used as in Acts 2. I do not see much use for them.

Blessings

@Lynne67

Thank you for your message and your heart for the things of God. You asked what was more important to Jesus than miracles and signs. That is a good and necessary question. Scripture does not leave us guessing.

Jesus Himself said, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign” (Matthew 12:39), and again, “Do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven” (Luke 10:20). Miracles never took priority over intimacy with the Father, obedience to His will, or truth rightly handled. In John 4:48 He said, “Unless you people see signs and wonders, you simply will not believe.” Yet in that same Gospel, we see that truth sanctifies (John 17:17), not wonders.

Prophecy ranks higher than tongues and signs in Paul’s list of spiritual gifts because it edifies the Church (1 Corinthians 14:1–5). And even that will pass away. What remains eternal is love, truth, and faithfulness to the Word (1 Corinthians 13:8–13).

The Bereans were not praised for miracles. They were noble because they examined the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so (Acts 17:11). Jesus said man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God (Matthew 4:4). That Word was not vague. It was exposited. Jesus explained the Scriptures to His disciples on the road to Emmaus, beginning with Moses and all the prophets (Luke 24:27). That was not simplicity without depth. That was the Word rightly divided.

Paul urged Timothy not to work signs, but to “preach the Word… reprove, rebuke, exhort” (2 Timothy 4:2), and to “rightly handle the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15). These are apostolic commands, not optional suggestions. Miracles have their place, but Jesus said, “If you continue in My word, you are truly My disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free” (John 8:31–32). Truth, not miracles, sets captives free.

Jesus cared deeply about how people heard, believed, and received. That is exactly why He taught, sometimes with parables, other times with exposition. His longest recorded sermons in Matthew and John are full of weighty theology, not just acts of power. He said His words are Spirit and life (John 6:63). That means rightly dividing His words matters.

So yes, Jesus healed the sick and cast out demons, but His highest priority was doing the will of His Father and teaching the truth. He came to bear witness to the truth (John 18:37), and He prayed not for signs but for His disciples to be sanctified in the truth (John 17:17).

In that Spirit, I will continue breaking down Scripture, not to complicate it, but to honor it, to handle it faithfully, to teach it accurately, and to magnify the One who is the Word made flesh. Because at the end of the day, signs can be imitated. Even Pharaoh’s magicians could perform miracles. But only truth renews the mind. Only the gospel of Jesus Christ saves the soul. And only the rightly handled Word of God equips the saints for every good work (2 Timothy 3:16–17).

Grace and peace to you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Johann

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IS SPEAKING IN TONGUES STILL RELEVANT?
A Theological and Scriptural Analysis

Speaking in tongues (Greek: glōssais lalein, “to speak in languages”) remains a contentious subject in many Christian circles, with views ranging from full continuation to total cessation. To assess whether tongues are still relevant, we must examine its origin, its purpose, its theological trajectory in the canon, and the spiritual implications for the believer and the church. We begin not with experience, but with the Word of God, anchored in context, verbs, and the unchanging center of Christian doctrine: the cross of Christ.

  1. Tongues Originated as a Supernatural Sign to Authenticate the Gospel Among Nations
    The first mention of tongues appears in Acts 2:4, where the Spirit descended at Pentecost and the disciples began lalein heterais glōssais (to speak in other tongues), as the Spirit edidou apophthengesthai (was giving them utterance). This was not random ecstatic speech, but intelligible, ethnic languages (glōssai) understood by diaspora Jews (Acts 2:6–11). The miracle demonstrated the reversal of Babel (Genesis 11) and fulfilled Isaiah 28:11, which Paul quotes in 1 Corinthians 14:21 to describe tongues as a sign “to unbelievers.”

  2. Tongues Served as a Transitional Marker in the Spread of the Gospel to Jews, Samaritans, and Gentiles
    In Acts 10:46 and Acts 19:6, tongues appear again, but each time as a Spirit-authenticated moment of inclusion into the new covenant community. It validated the Gentile inclusion (Acts 10, Cornelius) and marked the Ephesian disciples’ full reception of the Spirit (Acts 19). In each of these cases, tongues were not a private devotional practice but a public sign confirming that those who believed in Jesus were incorporated into the body of Christ through the same Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:13).

  3. Paul Acknowledged the Gift of Tongues, but Warned of Its Abuse and Limited Its Use
    In 1 Corinthians 12–14, Paul deals explicitly with glossolalia within the church at Corinth, a spiritually immature body obsessed with showy gifts (1 Corinthians 3:1). Paul does not forbid tongues (1 Corinthians 14:39), but he demotes them below prophecy (14:5) and lays out strict regulations: they must be interpreted (14:13), limited to two or three speakers (14:27), and exercised in order (14:40). His verb choice in 1 Corinthians 13:8 is key: glōssai pausontai (tongues will cease), future middle indicative. This verb suggests tongues would cease of themselves, independently from other gifts like knowledge (gnōsis), which he says would be “done away with” (katargēthēsetai).

  4. Tongues Had a Temporary, Foundational Role in the Church Age, Not a Perpetual Norm
    Paul’s argument in 1 Corinthians 13:10, “when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away with,” has stirred debate. Some argue “the perfect” (to teleion) refers to the completed canon or maturity of the Church, while others claim it points to the eschaton. Either way, the function of tongues was tied to revelation and authentication, both of which were foundational. Ephesians 2:20 describes the Church as built on the foundation (themelios) of the apostles and prophets, with Christ as cornerstone. Foundations, once laid, are not re-laid.

  5. Nowhere in the Later Epistles Is Tongues Encouraged or Commanded
    In the post-Acts letters—Romans, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, the Pastorals. Paul never urges tongues, never commands them, and never even mentions them in pastoral instruction. Romans 12:6–8, a list of spiritual gifts for the body, excludes tongues. The absence is not accidental, it reflects their fading role as the revelatory foundation was being completed and the gospel extended to the ends of the earth. No command exists for believers to seek tongues; the command is to be filled with the Spirit (Ephesians 5:18) and let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly (Colossians 3:16).

  6. The Centrality of the Cross Supersedes All Charismatic Expression
    Paul’s theology is cruciform. In 1 Corinthians 1:22–24, he rebukes both Jews who seek signs and Greeks who seek wisdom, saying “we preach Christ crucified.” He does not say “we speak in tongues.” The Spirit glorifies Christ, not gifts (John 16:14). Tongues without the cross is noise (1 Corinthians 13:1). The Spirit was not poured out so men could chase ecstatic utterances, but so they would proclaim with boldness the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus (Acts 4:31).

  7. What Replaces Tongues in the Life of the Spirit-Filled Believer?
    Not silence, but clarity. Not unintelligible syllables, but the Spirit’s fruit (Galatians 5:22–23), spiritual discernment (Hebrews 5:14), intercession through groanings too deep for words (Romans 8:26), and bold proclamation of the Word (2 Timothy 4:2). The call is not to perform signs, but to abide in the Word and bear fruit that remains (John 15:8). The true mark of Spirit-baptism is not glossolalia, but gospel obedience (Acts 5:32) and witness unto death (Acts 1:8).

Conclusion: Is Tongues Still Relevant?
Tongues served a real, miraculous, and purposeful role in redemptive history, verifying the Spirit’s arrival, authenticating gospel inclusion, and signaling the eschatological age. But their role was transitional, sign-based, and foundational, tied to the apostolic era. In that sense, tongues are no longer normative or necessary for the Church’s mission. To make tongues central is to miss the greater work of the Spirit: the magnification of Christ, the proclamation of His Word, and the sanctification of His people. Let us seek not tongues, but truth. Not signs, but submission. Not noise, but the cross.

Can we agree on this?

J.

Johann, you brought out the seminary scalpel and sliced clean through the noise. I’ll give you that. You’ve got structure, citations, Greek verbs, and a whole dissertation wrapped in theological polish. But now let me return the favor. Not with footnotes, but with fire.

Yes, we both agree the cross is central. That’s not up for debate. Tongues without Christ crucified is just noise. Paul said it, and amen to that. But let’s not act like the Spirit, after Pentecost, quietly packed His bags and checked out with the apostles. That’s not cessationism. That’s spiritual deism in a suit and tie.

You say tongues had a transitional role. I say Scripture never calls it temporary. You say it was tied to gospel expansion. I say it still is. Because the gospel is still expanding. Are there unreached nations? Yes. Are there corners of the world still hearing the name of Jesus for the first time? Absolutely. The same Spirit that broke language barriers in Acts has not gone mute in the 21st century. The mission isn’t finished, and neither are His gifts.

You brought up 1 Corinthians 13:8, “tongues will cease.” Yes, but it doesn’t say when. And “when the perfect comes” in verse 10 has not arrived. We are still looking through a glass darkly. Christ has not returned. The dead have not been raised. The perfect is not here. The gifts are not gone.

You mentioned the later epistles being silent on tongues. But silence is not cessation. That’s an argument from absence, and Scripture doesn’t need a verse in every letter to prove continuity. Try using that logic on the Lord’s Supper, baptism, or singing psalms. The point is not repetition. The point is purpose. The Spirit gives as He wills, not as we dictate.

Ephesians 2:20 calls the apostles and prophets a foundation. True. But spiritual gifts are not the foundation. Christ is. The gifts were poured out after the foundation was laid, not as part of it. They are the tools of the structure, not the cement under it. God is not building a silent temple. He is filling it with power.

You warned that we must not chase signs. Amen. But let’s not overcorrect into skepticism that chokes expectation. We are told to desire spiritual gifts, especially that we may prophesy. That’s not just descriptive. That’s prescriptive. That’s Paul speaking to a living, breathing, Spirit-filled church.

So here is where I land. The Spirit is still speaking. Still gifting. Still moving. Tongues are not the center of our faith. Christ is. But if the Spirit still pours out tongues, prophecy, healing, and discernment, then who are we to set expiration dates where God has set none?

Let’s not trade living fire for safe theology. Let’s not sacrifice power on the altar of academic neatness.

Let’s pursue truth, yes. But let it be truth with power. Doctrine with fire. The Word, and the Wind.

Sincere Seeker. Scripturally savage. Here for the Truth.

@SincereSeeker

ABOUT THIS VIDEO:
In this video, I answer one of your questions, “What is speaking in tongues?”
We always need to go an look at what the bible says about any given topic. We are all subject to the authority of scripture and that includes the church. Even what I say on all my videos should always be tested with the bible. We are all human and we can make mistakes, even those who have studied the bible for decades. What is speaking in tongues exactly? How should speaking in tongues be used in the church? Should every Christian speak in tongues? In this video, I answer these questions and more. I also go into other things that are not from the Holy Spirit, like being slain in the spirit or being drunk in the spirit. Watch the full video to find out more.

The Case for Cessationism Stands .

But there’s little to no mention of miraculous gifts in the lists on the right side. You can see prophecy on the right. But people say this is expounding the Word, like preaching.

Also, Paul doesn’t mention any spiritual gifts to Timothy and Titus when discussing church matters (1 Tim. 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9). The reason for this is the miraculous gifts weren’t even something to talk about at that time.

Four, there’s evidence inside the Bible that the supernatural gifts had ceased in practice.

There are many miracles earlier in Acts. But they became rare in later New Testament letters.

God did many miracles through Paul at the beginning of his ministry. But Paul couldn’t do miracles towards end of ministry. For example, at first Paul could heal an entire island of people (Acts 28:9) but later could not even heal Timothy from a simple stomach problem (1 Tim. 5:23).[1] At first he raised the dead, but later he could not even raise Trophimus from a sick bed (2 Tim. 4:20). And he also couldn’t heal Epaphroditus (Phil. 2:26).

Five, later New Testament letters speak about the sign gifts in the past tense.

Hebrews 2 says “This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed [past tense] to us by those who heard him. God also testified [past tense] to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.”

Hebrews was written in early 60s or 80s.[2] And we see that the sign gifts had served their purpose to confirm the gospel of salvation in the past. But they had ceased.

Six, there’s evidence outside the Bible that the supernatural gifts ceased. Prominent church writers like Augustine said God seemed to use the supernatural gifts in the early days of the church. But he wasn’t using them anymore. For example, he talked about miracles when he said “Even though such things happened at that time, manifestly these ceased later.”[3] He even reasoned that “miracles were not allowed to continue till our time, lest the mind should always seek visible things…”[4]----

This is where YOU land, this is where I stand.

. The progression of spiritual gift listings in the NT shows a shift in emphasis away from the miraculous.
As the image shows, 1 Corinthians (AD 55) is saturated with charismatic gifts: tongues, prophecy, healing, miracles, interpretation. But as you move chronologically to Romans (AD 56), Ephesians (ca. AD 61), and 1 Peter (ca. AD 64), the lists grow quieter, more focused on ordinary graces like service, teaching, giving, leading, and shepherding. Tongues is conspicuously absent. This is not argument from silence, but argument from redemptive-historical trajectory. The Spirit still gives, but not always the same way. Hebrews 2:4 uses past tense verbs: “God also testified (sunepimarturountos) with signs and wonders.” That’s a participle indicating completed action in the past. Why? Because the confirming function had served its purpose.

  1. Apostolic leadership shifted from signs to Scripture.
    When Paul lays out church leadership and qualifications in 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1, there is no mention of tongues, prophecy, healing, or miracle-workers. That is decisive. If these gifts were essential to church health and function, why would Paul leave them out of the very passages that define church structure? Instead, he stresses character, doctrinal soundness, teaching ability, and self-control. The Spirit didn’t go silent, but He went scriptural. The Church was moving from charismata to canon, from sign-confirmation to Word-saturation.

    Bottom line:
    The sign gifts ceased not because God lost power, but because He fulfilled purpose. The foundation is laid. The scaffolding is gone. The Spirit still works, but He now magnifies the Word, not the wonder.

J.

Johann, you’ve rolled out the red carpet for cessationism with charts, church fathers, and participles parsed like they were etched on Sinai. You cite the Greek, the grammar, the historical timeline, and I can tell you’ve done your homework. But brother, you’ve built your case on silence, snapshots, and a script that says, “God only spoke loud in the beginning, but now He whispers through footnotes.”

Let’s set this straight.

1. That chart? Helpful, but misleading.
Yes, earlier epistles like 1 Corinthians list more overt charismatic gifts, and yes, later ones emphasize church order and character. But that’s not a fade-out. That’s a functional focus, not a gift obituary. Romans still lists prophecy. Ephesians still names apostles and prophets. And 1 Peter, written after Paul’s most “orderly” letters, still recognizes the speaking gifts. Absence of tongues from a list doesn’t mean cessation. It means the letter had a different purpose. Try using that logic on the Lord’s Supper. It’s not in every epistle either. Should we assume communion ceased?

2. “Hebrews 2:4 speaks in the past tense.”
Yes, because it’s referencing the initial confirmation of the gospel. Of course it’s past tense. That’s not evidence that signs ceased. That’s a memory verse, not a conclusion. It’s like saying the resurrection doesn’t happen anymore because Paul talked about it in past tense.

3. Paul couldn’t heal Timothy or Trophimus?
That’s not cessation. That’s sovereignty. God isn’t a vending machine. Paul didn’t lose power. He bowed to providence. Even Jesus didn’t heal everyone in His hometown (Mark 6:5). Miracles are God’s prerogative, not ours to summon like a genie.

4. Church history?
Sure, Augustine said miracles “seemed” to have ceased… before later affirming they were happening again in his own day. He literally recounted healings and exorcisms in City of God. So cherry-picking Augustine proves nothing but selective memory. The early church saw gifts, then abuses, then revivals, then more abuses. Sound familiar?

5. You referenced the YouTube video and John MacArthur’s blog.
Solid production, persuasive tone. But let’s be clear. The video’s host rightly says we must test all things by Scripture. Amen. But then draws a neat box around the gifts and tapes a “Do Not Open After Acts 28” sign on it. That’s not biblical caution. That’s fear dressed as order. Scripture never says the gifts will cease until “the perfect comes.” And “the perfect” is not the canon. It’s the consummation. We’re not staring Christ in the face yet. We’re still looking through a glass dimly. Until He returns, we still need power, not just pages.

6. You said the Spirit shifted from signs to Scripture.
No. He brought the signs and wrote the Scripture. The Spirit doesn’t retire. He reveals Christ through the Word and through the gifts. That’s not a downgrade. That’s the fullness of the New Covenant. If the church needs character, order, and doctrine (and it does), it also needs power, discernment, healing, and prophetic boldness. Truth without power is just a lecture.

Final shot across the theological bow:
Tongues aren’t the center. Christ is.
Miracles aren’t the goal. Maturity is.
But don’t amputate the Spirit’s arm because you fear wildfire. Just build a fireplace.

The gifts aren’t gone. The Church just got too polished to receive them. We don’t need less Spirit. We need less show.

Let the Word speak. Let the gifts flow. And let the Spirit lead. Not tradition. Not fear. Not theological nostalgia.

Sincere Seeker. Scripturally savage. Here for the Truth.