You actually believe the reason they are trying to figure out a way to live on mars is to show an act of worship?
And this is my point, you can not hide from our creator. So what is the point in trying to move to mars to inhabit a noninhabitable planet? Just because there is water there doesnt mean there is gravity or oxygen. Of course i know they can make it all and everything but you cant just drop a naked man off on mars with nothing but a knife and a flint and he be able to survive like he could here on earth. God put us here for a reason. Im not saying that we shouldnt travel to space and explore new places. What im saying is if God wanted us to live on mars he would of made man from mars dust and gave us lungs that could breath the air there and gravity wouldnt effect us. But God did not do this.
Exactly key word here Visiting. Now i can agree with this one.
I am a little lost on this one, PeterC you know i am a slow learner. I know who God is but who is the lord of the air? Like i said a little slow so i may be reading it wrong.
@Dr_S I believe i can escape Gods wrath here on earth without moving to Mar just by giving God his praise, and believing in jesus. So you guys go ahead and move to Mars im going to stay here on earth…
I do not believe that he wants up to live on Mars or that is where he would of made us and placed us from the beginning. But you do know that not everything is in the bible right? There are a lot of things that are real or that are true that can not be found in the bible.
@d-o.o-b im confused on some of your actions here on this thread. Are you agreeing or disagreeing? I know “read your post” but as i have pointed out i am a slow learner. Sorry about my lack of intelligence my friend but i cant help it i was born this way. I took it as you were disagreeing?
The idea of living on mars like we do on earth? No. Mars woud need to be terraformed for that. I don’t think we are even close to that ability wise. So, I don’t believe we will do it any time soon, no. In 75-125 years or more from now, who knows.
I think if unmanned explorations find usable, rare to earth minerals to mine, they would attempt it only if it was financially worth it. But that would be small scale, automated and limited to self-contained habitats. Not houses as we have here on earth. I would hardly call that living.
But as I said, I think we are going to have AI equipped drones there first.
Still, sounds intereseting in concept, but I wouldn’t volunteer for it though.
Thank you that is how i thought i was reading your post, but i wanted to make sure. Thank you again for making it easier for me to comprehend my friend.
I am not at all offended. I’m preterist in my eschatology, and believe that almost all of the prophecies in the Olivet Discourse and Αποκαλυψις were fulfilled during the Great Tribulation, A.K.A. the Jewish war, AD 63-70. After all, Jesus promised the people hearing him that most of them would be alive when everything went sideways. Normally, “this” means “this” and not “that.” As in “This generation shall not pass … “
Most preterists are normal, sane, orthodox Christians. A few spectacular outliers, alas, have left the faith and now deny the future coming of our Lord in the flesh, and “the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting, Amen.” Gary DeMar comes to mind. What a shame. He spent decades publishing edifying books.
We know the vector (force + direction) of history, and the Final Event at the end of history (our Lord’s physical return, the general resurrection, the final judgement.) Jesus is Lord. He is reigning now, and subduing His foes one by one by one, until only one remains – death. Then, not before, He returns to put an end to death as well.
Now, 100 generations ago (4,000 years), God promised Moses that He would display His lovingkindness to a thousand generations. That suggests that we have 900 generations to go. 36,000 years is time enough for us to tackle Mars, the habitable zone of Venus, Titan, and the Oort Cloud.
No. I’m saying if a Christian moves there, we should, like all thing, do it for the glory of God.
Agreed. There will be no Naked and Afraid Mars Edition. Yes, I agree there is notwhere you could hide from God.
The phrase “Lord of the Air” (or more accurately, the “ruler of the authority of the air”) is a title given to Satan, the Devil, in the Bible. It appears in Ephesians 2:2. Jesus also addressed this.
“Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.” John 12:31
“I will not speak with you much more, for the ruler of this world is coming. And he has no hold on me.” John 14:30
“…concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged.” John 16:11
Remember, God gave man all authority of the Earth and all on and in it, and we gave that authority to Satan. Ever since then, He has been the “ruler” of this world.
Peter
well, John seemed to vıew the castıng down of the accuser of the brethren as a PRESENT realıty, ın hıs day. I like to recite these verses to myself last thing at night:
NOW is come the salvation, and the power, and the Kingdom of our God. And the jurisdiction of His Christ.
The God of the Bible is at work in this age, in, around, through, with, and for us, to extend the reach of his Kingdom. Blessed are those who are in on what God is up to! Sad are those who have not the faith, vision, and courage to embrace their piece of the action.
The naysayers and doomsayers who have discouraged the saints will have to answer to God for their evil deeds and words. (at least, their paymasters in this world seem to be generous.)
Once we live on Mars long enough to ascertain there has never been life there and that the natural resources of Mars would be too costly to bring to earth, maybe we should forget Mars for awhile until our technology improves and we can easily transport natural resources from there and other planets or asteriods back to earth. Meanwhile we serve the Lord on the planet that it seems God gave us to have dominion over. Then when we have developed more technology that enables us to visit the stars, we could visit all the planets of our Solar system and then go to the stars. If we find some evidence that there are other sentient life forms other than on earth, we should try to contact them and evangelize them, unless we find that the other sentient life forms are like the angels, who do not need to be evangelized.
I really do think visits to the stars will have to wait until the millennium, when we have the Kingdom of God on earth administered in Jerusalem and know supernatural things more than we know them now. Christ might let us bend natural laws at times. Surely Christ will approve of man’s natural curiosity, and desire to go where we have ever gone before. This is the way He made us with nature and eternity both in our hearts.
Frank Norris, a Quora contributor who’s also written books on the topic, argues a new frontier will inspire an outburst of creativity. New challenges, new opportunities, and limited parasites. He also points out how some of the wealthiest nations have very few natural resources, apart from the creative and energetic people who live there:
Lichenstein
Switzerland
Singapore
Israel
Hong Kong
Botswana
Rhodesia
Mars can serve as an incubator for invention. And, as a fuel station for mining the asteroids, or sending missions to the outer planets. Two things Mars has in abundance are carbon dioxide and water. (well, you do have to dig through a meter or two of Martian soil to get to the ice.) The Sabatier reactor uses 19th century technology to turn those two gases into methane and oxygen. It’s an exothermic reaction that generates more energy than it consumes.
Again, eschatology matters. If you expect the world to end at any moment, you’re not likely to invest in long-range thinking and doing. If you assume, as the Bible seems to indicate, that we have thousands of years ahead of us, then you think and live like people on a mission, pursuing a vocation so amazing that it extends through our children and grandchildren to centuries we’ll not see. We can take steps (home schooling, e.g.) to raise children who will surpass us in a variety of ways. I am a professional writer, for example, but all of my children are better writers than me. I’m a college professor (part time), but my daughter is miles ahead of me on that career path. They all love God, but some of them are still trying to figure out what that means. No problem. I was in my 30’s before I got my eschatology straight, and began living a fruitful, energetic, and purposeful life.
And there is room in my imagination for the next 300-500 years.
The physical adaptations we would have to make to successfully live on Mars is much more than the little people who live in the higher elevations around Mt. Everest (ability to live with less air) Living years with less gravity like on Mars is probably something we cannot completely adjust to, and if we did, I think it would make us unable to survive long back on earth. The place is just not made for us. It is like making us adaptable to living under the sea with no air. Humans can only adapt so far and no farther.
I used to hold to the immediacy argument thinking the second coming could happen any time. That was what Pre-Trib taught. But the only support for that is the supposition that it is the belief of the early New Testament Christians that Jesus would come back immanently. We now can see that Jesus did not come for about 2000 years, so we need to look at other scriptures. 2Thess. 2:3 says the two things that have to happen first, before we can start to expect Jesus to return: (1) The apostacy or turning away from the truth of the gospel in the Church, and (2) the revealing of the Antichrist. Until these 2 things happen, I do not believe the 7 last years have started.
I know who God is but who is the lord of the air? Like i said a little slow so i may be reading it wrong.