God gave the Gospel 1500 years to get up to speed in the Eastern hemisphere of the globe.
Then another 500 years in the Americas.
Then, the moon was consecrated to Him, when Buzz Aldrin celebrated the Lord’s Supper as the first meal taken there.
The Martian sol is 37 minutes longer than an earth day. That’s a bit of a hint, IMHO.
After you.
I think if God wanted us to live on Mars he would have put us there. But hey if he allows us to make it there and figure out a way to live there then maybe just maybe its part of his plan for some of us. I dont think i will see it happen in my life time here on earth. Maybe we should start a topic asking “Will living on Mars save us from Gods wrath on Earth?” That maybe an interesting conversation. @Dr_S i dont know sometimes i wish he would visit someone like he did with Moses and tell us what he want us to do
Consider what God did for us on earth. We have liquid water, breathable air, and a magnetic field to protect us from solar radiation. If God has not similarly made provision on other planets, it is perhaps not his intention for us to live there.
Sorry, I could not stop laughing at this. Such a human response. Here is a garden, green land, fruit trees of every kind, unlimited supply of water, enjoy and be happy. Nah, I’m going to go over her and live in the desert.
Peter
Deserts cry out for the human touch, for joyous gardeners to care for them.
LOL, not the way I see it. What they do is scream, “I have no water, food, shade or shelter for you – I just wanna be left alone – you pesky kids get on outta here!”
I “foresee” us putting a colony of robots (with ai) there before we ever make a serious try to get humans there. Look at the Artimis II mission, with several exploratory trips around the moon??? – (My inner skeptic begs to ask: Why the need to scope it out if we have really already been there? Hmm? #moonlandinghoax) – Right now we have a mars rover on the moon that has sent tons of photos (and a few selfies) back to earth of the red planet, nice, but why not send something truly constructive, like insects, mice, plants, water, and some other basics to test to see how the environment of mars affects them within an enclosed habitat environment? I think they don’t because they are not serious about humans going. They have, however, tested mars soil and rock to see what valuable elements could be mined… So that should show you where their plans lie. Robots can mine, why send humans?
Why climb Mount Everest?
Yes, why? They are not mining it and there is nothing there apparently useful, and we’ve been there before. People climb to brag, or for sense of self accomplishment. No Biblical reason what-so-ever that I see. I would be impressed if they built a humanoid robot that could climb it though.
However, there are metals, minerals and mining possibilites on the moon and mars. Plus, as far as I know, less people die going into space than they do climbing Everest and other mountains. (Do most accidents not happen close to home? This should prove true with space travel too don’t you think?)
No I dont believe we are meant to live anywhere but earth.
If we constrict ourselves to this one globe, we’ll get awfully bored in another few centuries!
I don’t think that God will allow us to get loose in the solar system. Not that man couldn’t eventually figure it out how, but we don’t have enough time before the end to do that. Elon isn’t quite as smart as people think he is.
Maybe the solar system was originally designed to be our playground, but we could fly then and not now.
Eschatology matters. As a radio host used to say, “What’s the point, Caller? Get the point!” What is the point of our lives? What does God equip us to do, and call us to do?
Postmillennialism gives us the MIDDLE distance, the centuries between HERE and THERE. This fallen world is not the preparation for the real event, but a real event in its own right, the place where we grow in faith by obediently exercising dominion. Stewarding what has been given us, and leaving the improvements for generations yet unborn.
A faith that focuses on the middle distance, that which we can hope to achieve in the next three centuries with the one life we are given, is more likely to leave a legacy of long-term faithfulness. Absent that perspective, we risk seeing our life’s work squandered by a Jerry Falwell, Jr.
~~~
(1) In programming argot, a sandbox is an isolated computer system, carefully separated from the real system in the real world where real work gets really done. You use a sandbox for developing and testing new software. But the goal is to eventually put that new software to work.
@Dr_S will we be able to escape Gods wrath here on earth if we move to Mars? And if not what is the point in going to Mars?
The Bible doesn’t directly address the question of humans living on Mars, as it was written in a time when such a concept was beyond imagination. However, we can look to foundational biblical principles to understand God’s heart for humanity and creation.
One key principle is found in Genesis 1:28, where God commands humanity to “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
This commission focuses on the stewardship and inhabitation of the Earth.
Another passage, Psalm 115:16, states, “The heavens are the LORD’s heavens, but the earth he has given to mankind.”
This highlights that while God is sovereign over all creation, He specifically entrusted the Earth to us.
In Deuteronomy 8:10, Moses reminds the Israelites, “You shall eat and be full, and you shall bless the LORD your God for the good land he has given you.”
This verse emphasizes gratitude for the provision and blessing found in the land God has given.
The concept of God’s creation being good is reinforced in Genesis 1:31: “And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good.” This speaks to the perfection and completeness of the Earth as God designed it.
Finally, Jesus himself points to the importance of caring for the Earth in the parable of the talents (Matthew 25:14-30), where faithful stewardship of what is entrusted to us is praised. While this parable has broader spiritual applications, it underscores the value God places on responsible management of resources.
These scriptures, taken together, suggest that our primary calling is to be good stewards and inhabitants of the Earth God has provided.
J.
Sane exegesis realizes that the Great Tribulation was the Jewish War, which happened exactly when true prophet Jesus said that it would – within the time frame of the “this generation” He was speaking to. We anticipate the “resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting, Amen” at the end of history. Meanwhile within history, Jesus is Lord, and He gives us victory over one challenge after another.
@Dr_S But i asked if we could escape his wrath that he will rain on earth by moving to Mars? because the bible doesnt say it will rain down on all plants. Or does it? See i understand that not everything is going to be in the bible, and thats okay if they have something wrong. My faith is in God and Jesus no matter what the bible gets wrong or what planet we end up on. And as a Christian you should trust him as well, and not worry about what planet we will inhabit but worry about which one we are on. We as human will destroy the earth and as well as mars so what does it matter as long as you are still giving all praise to him. Ive never in 45 years questioned my faith and/or my beliefs until i joined this forums. Now i am able to doubt and i do not like that. So i say no matter what planet we inhabit lets praise our God for giving us hope and something to die for….
this isn’t even serious is it? Just tell me where to find it, it surely isn’t in the bible!
I lost five years of my adult life to bad eschatology – others have lost far more. Understanding God’s good goals for our lives and His kingdom fills our lives with joy and purpose and competence. I am postmillennial. i confess that Jesus is Lord, and that is the central fact of reality. He reigns now, and reigns in power, and lets us have a piece of the peacemaking action. Most of the Olivet Discourse, and its retelling in word pictures in Revelation, refers to the Jewish War that brought disaster upon The Land. Which land? THE Land. Israel. For example, 1/3 of the trees in The Land were cut down to make Roman siege engines.
There are still plenty of foes to oppose, but only misinformed saints actually expect global catastrophe and the rise of some end-times world government.
“The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands.”
If the universe exists to reveal God’s majesty, then humans visiting other planets is a way of “reading” that revelation more closely. In this sense, living on Mars could be seen as an act of worship and discovery.
The God of this earth, not the lord of the air, but God, has total control.
“A Psalm of David. The earth is the LORD’s and the fullness thereof, the world and those who dwell therein,” Psalm 24:1
Then you have Colossians 1:16
" For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities–all things were created through him and for him."
If God is the creator of the entire cosmos, I do not believe there is any “off-limits” zone for humanity, provided the intent is to honor the Creator. Now for the question.
You would have to use logic in the concept.
“And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.” Hebrews 4:13
And,
“Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord.” Jeremiah 23:24
If God created the universe, then these should apply to Mars or any other location that we end up traveling to.
Peter