From Daniel to Revelation: Are We Living in the Final Week?

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From Daniel to Revelation: Are We Living in the Final Week?

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The 70 weeks of Daniel have fascinated believers for centuries—especially the idea that we may be living in that final, mysterious “week.” From global unrest to Israel’s central role in world affairs, it’s hard not to wonder if we’re seeing prophecy unfold in real time.

This article breaks down the ABCs of Bible prophecy and how Daniel’s vision ties into Revelation:
:backhand_index_pointing_right: 11 Prophecies of Jesus and the End Times | Crosswalk.com

What are your thoughts—are we nearing the end of the 70th week?
How should Christians prepare for what may be ahead, spiritually and practically?

Prophecy isn’t about predicting dates—it’s about preparing hearts.

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Alright, onechristian—buckle up. You’re trying to thread a prophetic needle with historical yarn, but you’ve tangled the timeline and turned Daniel’s vision into a Rube Goldberg salvation machine. Let’s untwist this thing with a little exegetical firepower and a heavy helping of Scripture.

:bullseye: First, the “Year-Day” Assumption:

Sure, the year-for-a-day principle pops up in Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6, but it’s applied in judgment scenarios—not as a blanket hermeneutic for all prophecy. Daniel 9 doesn’t demand it; it presumes it. Big difference. Be careful not to build a cathedral on a footnote.

:brick: Let’s talk timing:

You’re anchoring the 70 Weeks to Artaxerxes’ decree in 458 BCE? Cute, but there’s a better candidate: the decree in 445 BCE (Nehemiah 2). Why? Because Daniel 9:25 doesn’t just mention rebuilding—it says “with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble.” That’s Nehemiah’s wheelhouse, not Ezra’s paper-pushing.

From 445 BCE, go 69 weeks (483 years) forward, using prophetic years (360 days per year), and where do you land? Right around 32-33 AD—Palm Sunday, when Messiah the Prince presented Himself publicly to Jerusalem. Not at His baptism, not at His bar mitzvah—at His triumphal entry. That’s the literal fulfillment sweet spot, not some symbolic shrug.

:scissors: “Cut off and have nothing” (v26):

This doesn’t mean “His family was awkward at family reunions.” No, it means DEATH. Judicial execution. The Hebrew word karat is covenantal language—it means the Messiah was cut off violently, with nothing to show for it in worldly terms. He didn’t just get rejected—He got crucified.

:crown: Now for the Prince to Come:

Nope, that’s not Titus. Daniel doesn’t say “the prince is the one who destroys”—he says “the people of the prince who is to come.” The Romans did the destroying, but the prince in focus is still future. This is Antichrist territory. You’re conflating two rulers separated by more than bad theology—by centuries.

:firecracker: Verse 27: The Covenant

This isn’t Christ confirming the New Covenant—that happened at the Last Supper and was ratified at the Cross, but that’s not the covenant Daniel’s talking about. Daniel 9 is laser-focused on Israel, not the global Church. This covenant is a false peace treaty, made by the Antichrist with many (read: Israel and perhaps other nations). And halfway through the week—BOOM—he pulls a Judas, stops the sacrifices, and sets up abominations in the Temple (see Matthew 24:15, 2 Thessalonians 2:4).

Jesus didn’t break any covenant midway through a week—He fulfilled one. The only thing He interrupted was death, and the only curtain He tore was in the temple—not a grain offering schedule.

:receipt: Timeline Mic Drop:

  • Daniel 9:24-26 = First coming of Christ, fulfilled in His death.
  • Daniel 9:27 = Yet future. That’s the 70th week, which hasn’t happened yet.
  • We are living in the gap—the Church Age, the “mystery” hidden from Daniel’s eyes (cf. Ephesians 3:5-6).
  • The 70th week = Tribulation, kicked off by a covenant with Antichrist, not Christ.

:fire: Final Thought:

You can try to squeeze the crucifixion into verse 27, but that theological sausage won’t fit the casing. You’re trying to stuff both Titus and Jesus into one sentence like it’s a prophetic clown car. Doesn’t work.

This isn’t about creative date math—it’s about honoring the text, keeping Christ’s role clear, and not trying to rewrite prophecy as history just to make your system feel tidy.

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Oh, onechristian, I see you’ve brought the “ultimate proof.” Bold claim. But let’s test your “ultimate” with something a little sharper than speculation: Scripture rightly divided. Because what you’re calling “undoubtedly fulfilled,” Jesus calls “yet future.” And unlike Titus, Jesus doesn’t miss His cues.

Let’s bring the receipts:

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Matthew 24:15 – The Abomination of Desolation

You said Jesus “makes the connection” to Daniel 9:27—yes, He does. But what does He say?

“So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains…” (Matt. 24:15-16)

Question: Who’s seeing it?

Not Jesus’ current audience in 30 AD, and not Jews in 70 AD—He’s speaking to those living in the last days, when the abomination stands in the holy place. That’s not rubble and Roman soldiers—that’s a functioning temple. And here’s the kicker: Titus never set up an “abomination of desolation” in the Holy Place. He flattened it. That’s not desecration—that’s demolition.

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70 CE: The Wrong Fulfillment

Titus didn’t confirm a covenant with anyone for one week.
He didn’t break it halfway through.
He didn’t cause sacrifice and offering to cease by deception.
He just sieged and slaughtered.

That’s judgment, not prophecy fulfillment. You’re trying to cram Titus into a role written for the Antichrist, but he doesn’t fit the job description. He didn’t enter into a covenant—he entered with catapults.

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Context Check: Daniel 9 is about ISRAEL, not Rome

Let’s rewind: Daniel 9:24 starts with this:

“Seventy weeks are decreed for your people and your holy city…”

This prophecy is about Israel, not Gentile armies. Daniel’s timeline ends with everlasting righteousness, an end to sin, and the anointing of the Most Holy Place. None of that happened in 70 CE—unless you think the Roman inferno was the coronation of Christ. Spoiler: it wasn’t.

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Jesus Didn’t Say 70 CE Fulfilled Daniel 9:27.

He said when you SEE the abomination spoken of by Daniel, then run for your life. That didn’t happen in 70 CE—there was no standing temple desecrated with false worship. And guess what? Paul backs this up in 2 Thessalonians 2:4—the Antichrist will exalt himself in the temple, declaring himself to be God. That requires… wait for it… a temple.

So unless Titus rose from the ashes to set up a shrine to himself inside a temple that no longer existed—your “ultimate proof” just got evaporated in holy fire.

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The Real Fulfillment?

Still future. The 70th week is the time of Jacob’s Trouble (Jeremiah 30:7), the Great Tribulation (Matthew 24:21), and the final countdown before the return of the true Prince, not the imposter.

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Mic Drop Summary:
• Titus destroyed a temple. Antichrist will desecrate one.
• Jesus spoke of Daniel’s prophecy in the future tense, not past.
• No covenant confirmed in 70 CE = no fulfillment of Daniel 9:27.

So no, Daniel 9:27 wasn’t fulfilled by Titus. It’s reserved for someone far worse—and a time just ahead. Titus brought ruin. The Antichrist will bring deception. You’re mistaking a shadow for the real storm.

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Oh, onechristian, nice try quoting Gill—but even Gill wouldn’t cram all of Daniel 9:27 into Titus’ saddlebag.

Yes, Jesus pointed to the Herodian Temple and correctly prophesied its destruction. No debate there—Matthew 24:2 settles that. But then in verse 15, He shifts gears: “When you see the abomination of desolation…” That’s a future event, not past tense. He’s not describing Titus—He’s warning about someone still to come.

And as for “wings” being armies—sure, poetic. But the text of Daniel 9:27 speaks of a covenant, its betrayal mid-week, and a desecration in a functioning temple. The Roman legions didn’t cut any covenant—they just cut throats.

You can quote Gill, but you can’t bend Christ’s timeline. Jesus said “when you see it,” not “when you read about what already happened.”

So unless Titus confirmed a 7-year peace treaty, broke it at 3.5 years, and strutted into a standing temple declaring himself god—this ain’t it, chief.

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What do I say now? I say Josephus wrote a history, not a theology. And history isn’t canon, friend.

You’re taking secondhand reports of sky-chariots and street preachers and calling that the Second Coming? That’s not exegesis—that’s apocalyptic fan fiction.

Let’s be clear: Jesus said, “They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory” (Matthew 24:30). That’s not visions in the clouds or spooky omens. That’s unmistakable, global, sky-splitting glory—not a footnote in Josephus.

And about that 3.5 years from 66 to 70 CE? Nice math, wrong covenant. Daniel 9:27 says he (the Antichrist, not Rome) will confirm a covenant with many—not burn the city to the ground. Titus didn’t make a deal—he made ashes.

So what do I say now? I say don’t trade the trumpet of Christ for the gossip of Josephus. When the real King returns, you won’t need a historian to tell you—it’ll be written across the sky.

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As no one knows the day or the hour of Jesus’s return, we have in effect been living in the final week for the last 2000 years and will continue to do so until he comes.

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