Absolutely, scripturally correct and it would seem you are a “one liner” kind of person, not really contributing.
INDEX TO STUDY OF THE DOCTRINE OF ETERNAL PUNISHMENT:
Digression on Eternal - The Greek Word Aionios
Hell Has Fallen on Hard Times
Teachings of Jesus Related to Eternal Punishment
Effect of the Truth of Eternal Punishment on Our Evangelistic Passionr
Quotes and Illustrations Related To Eternal Punishment
Resources Related to the Doctrine of Eternal Punishment
Definition of Terms Used for Eternal Punishment
Sheol
Hades
Gehenna
Tartarus
Abyss
Eternal
Perish
Steve Lawson’s powerful sermon on The Great White Throne Judgment!
Rebuttal of Annihilationism, Universalism, Purgatory
Denial of the Doctrine of Hell By The Cults
Exposition of Luke 16:19-31
Last Words From Saints And Sinners
There’s No Place Like Hell - Sermon by Ian Paisley
The Doctrine of Eternal Punishment - Harry Buis
How Shall We Escape if We Neglect so Great a Salvation - W A Criswell
Multiple Related Resources on Hell - list at bottom of page
If you dare - Take a few minutes and watch John Bunyan’s VIDEO The infernal dungeon of Hell
Jonathan Edwards epic sermon Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God (watch this video re-enactment or listen to Max Maclean’s version!
J.
Thanks,. Johan!
I try!
I am disagreeing with you here.
Bunyan.
Matthew 25:41 (WORDS OF JESUS) “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal (aionios) fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
COMMENT - Jesus clearly states those on His left are to depart into the “ETERNAL FIRE.” So Jesus believes in an ETERNAL FIRE. Is that a fair statement based on His own declaration? Secondly, Jesus states this ETERNAL FIRE is a place which has been prepared for the DEVIL. So that begs a question – If ETERNAL FIRE is not real, then will the devil be let out of that place at some point in the future? Clearly there is no Scripture that supports that premise. In fact John records the devil’s fate in Revelation 20:10+ “And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.” How long will the devil be tormented according to John? These passages strongly support the premise that eternal fire will last forever, throughout eternity.
Matthew 25:46 (WORDS OF JESUS) “These will go away into eternal (aionios) punishment, but the righteous into eternal (aionios) life.”
COMMENT - What is Jesus contrasting? Eternal punishment and eternal life. Correct? According to Jesus how long is life? Eternal. According to Jesus how long is punishment? Eternal. One can parse Jesus’ words or attempt specious, clever word games, but His words are very simple and straightforward and clearly indicate that there are two states of every man ever born, either eternal punishment or eternal life. There is no middle ground. And if one argues that aionios does not mean “eternal” than they are painting themselves into a theological corner, because if eternal punishment is not forever, then eternal life is not forever and we are all in a hopeless situation!
Paul uses aionos to describe the nature of God writing
but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal (aionios) God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith. (Ro 16:26)
COMMENT - If aionios does not mean eternal, then one is forced to say from this passage that God will not exist forever, which of course is absolutely absurd. Aionios in this context clearly means eternal, everlasting, forever and ever. Amen!
Paul again uses aionos in a description of one aspect of God writing
Who (GOD) Alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, Whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal (aionios) dominion! Amen. (1 Ti 6:16)
COMMENT - Paul is blessing God and ascribing to Him eternal dominion. Dominion is kratos which refers to inherent strength which displays itself in the rule over others. It follows that if God’s kratos is not eternal, at some point He will not have the strength to rule. Again this is clearly not true or otherwise we are all left without any hope of eternal life. Again, it is clear that aionios in this context means eternal, everlasting, forever, without end!
The writer of Hebrews uses aionos in a description of God the Spirit writing
how much more will the blood of Christ, Who through the eternal (aionios)Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? (Hebrews 9:14)
COMMENT - Once again, if one proposes that aionios does not mean eternal, then they are forced to conclude that the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of Jesus, the Spirit of Jesus Christ, will not exist forever. Again such logic is not logic, but lies. Eternal means forever and ever. Amen.
If we let the Bible be our plumbline regarding the meaning of the Greek word aionios, then clearly the Biblical uses of this word indicates the meaning is forever, without end, eternal. And while it is not my favorite theological truth, it is clear from the Word of God that there will be eternal punishment for every soul that does not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ while they still have breath in their lungs and a beat in their heart. Do not believe the lie of Satan, “You surely will not die.” (Ge 3:4+)! Today is the acceptable time. Today is the day of salvation. (2 Cor 6:2) Believe the truth spoken by Jesus, Who Alone is the Way, the Truth and the Life (John 14:6) and Who Alone has the words of eternal (aionios) life (John 6:68)
J.
Fire was used to describe DESTRUCTION in those times.
You are trying too hard to believe in it!
Where do you get that?
Peter
I guess I should have kept reading. I think you may be being disingenuous here. Or perhaps you are focusing strictly on the literal wording of God’s warning in Genesis 2:17**: “In the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”** Is your point that God didn’t explicitly mention going to heaven (“flying”) or going to eternal torment (“frying”) to Adam; He just said, “die.”?
To answer this thoughtfully, we have to look at what biblical “death” actually means, how the rest of Scripture unpacks Genesis, and where this argument misses the bigger picture.
The first flaw in a strictly materialist or flat reading of the text is chronological. God told Adam, “In the day that you eat of it, you shall surely die” (Genesis 2:17). Yet, after Adam ate the fruit, he didn’t drop dead physically that afternoon. He went on to live for 930 years.
If death only means the cessation of physical breath and brain activity, then either God changed His mind, the warning failed, or “death” in Scripture means something much deeper than just a corpse. In biblical theology, death is fundamentally separation. The very moment Adam sinned, spiritual death occurred. He was instantly alienated and separated from the presence of God, which is why he immediately ran and hid in the trees. Physical death was simply the eventual, outward manifestation of that internal spiritual separation.
The idea that “we don’t see heaven or hell in Genesis, so they must not exist” ignores the reality of progressive revelation. This is the principle that God did not reveal His entire plan, the full nature of the afterlife, or the depths of eternity to Adam on day one. Instead, He unfolded the truth gradually throughout Scripture.
Genesis is the seed; the rest of the Bible is the tree. Genesis gives us the bare fact: sin brings death. The Prophets and the New Testament expand on what that death entails. By the time we get to Jesus, the definition of the “death” Adam introduced is fully unmasked. Jesus doesn’t contradict Genesis; He clarifies the ultimate consequences of that original separation.
If God “changed His mind,” then Jesus would be contradicting the Father, but Jesus is the one who spoke most explicitly about the eternal realities of the afterlife. Jesus didn’t view death as a simple blackout. In Matthew 10:28, He explicitly separates the death of the body from the ultimate destruction of the soul:
“And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.”
If physical death were the end of the story, Jesus’ warning here makes no sense. He describes a post-physical-death reality (Gehenna/Hell) that is far more serious than just passing away. When Jesus comforts His disciples in John 14:2-3, He explicitly promises a destination after this life:
“In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am, you may be also.”
Paul echoes this in 2 Corinthians 5:8, saying that to be “away from the body” is to be “at home with the Lord.”
God didn’t change His mind. Although this is a witty rhyme (“die, fry, or fly”), it obscures a profound biblical truth: the “death” Adam brought into the world was never just a physical shutdown. It was the fracture of humanity’s connection to the Eternal God. Adam experienced the root of death the day he sinned. The rest of the Bible simply shows us where the branches of that root lead.
Peter
He DIED!
There was only the grave (hell/hades).
C,mon, Pete- he did mean in the 24 hours!
In the day of Adam, he lived 930 years.
It’s this type of stuff that just screams, I don’t know Jesus at all.
If you want to meet Him, all you need to do is to pick up your bible and read it. You have no clue how much God loves you, do you?
Do you AGREE with Churchianity and it’s Hellfire Dogma?
Don’t rightly know what your purpose here is. You don’t believe Messiah is God, that Jesus is a “created being” and somehow I do believe you need “Church-ianity”
Heaven knows what else you believe is the orthodox truth.
J.
No because I know the real Lord Jesus. I’m not saying I’m any monk or moses or anything like that, just, I made the effort and there He was!
That you know Him not even in the least is very apparent in your posts.
I’m (heh!) glad you do!
The Messiah is God???
Do you believe God DIED? He wasn’t alive those 3 Days?
Go to a good Church friend, this is not the place for “lone rangers”
J.
You mean I have to PAY to be lied to?
No but you do need to be educated. You do not seem to be listening to God, perhaps being with His family will help yo make things clear for you. You seemingly have no clue.
Peter
And you do?
You are clueless and, sadly, unwilling to learn.
Peter
Then God was WRONG? You can’t have it both ways,
And your JUDGING me.