If we believe in theistic evolutionism, then how do we explain the herd instinct? Let’s assume that Adam and Eve are nothing more than a collective image. What about the herd instinct? Did the “paradise” people have it or not? It was ALWAYS with people. And how do you explain this?
Spirits reside in the subconscious or shadow. Many people may have had demons at some point due to man’s fallen nature. A baptism done correctly, it may have been like an exorcism.
People in sin, they may have had a “Mob Mentality.”
- Mob in front of Lot’s house. (Genesis 19)
- Mob approaches a Levite. (Judges 19)
- A Mob in 2022-23 may have been a Gay Pride Parade.
In both cases, the people were in Baal Worship and Temple prostitution. In their subconscious or shadow, they had demons. Spirits effect motivations. They may have been moved to do particular things in a mob mentality.
Christianity is different. There is Freedom in The Lord. As a group of men are choosing The Lord Jesus Christ, and growing in Faith together, they may have started to think more alike. They may have learned to see things more as God sees them. They became more of “One Mind.” (Philippians 2:2)
I have lived in the US. Given there was a Christian in China, of whom I have never met, he could potentially be working in tandem with me. We both are working to build the Kingdom of God, potentially working off each other. We are connected to God. There is a spiritual reality here with cause and effect.
If we believe in theistic evolutionism,
That is the wrong frame of thought. There is a spiritual level to understanding the Bible. Someone cannot really understand the New Testament outside of a Spiritual Understanding.
More relevant is how is death describe as being ’ good ’ if theistic evolution is correct.
Death is the last enemy, it is not good, yet for evoultion to be true death has to be good.
From the Christian perspective, physical death is powerless and practically meaningless.
Death is very very real. It is part of the world bring misery to many people and is the consquence of Adam’s sin.
In that it mean evolution is a lie, deceiving people and leading them away from God.
When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:
“Death is swallowed up in victory.”
Have you done this?
Are you immortal now?
Reality check. Unless Jesus returns you will die.
And it won’t matter a lick, because I’ve been promised that I will rise again. Because of this promise I have no fear of death whatsoever. It doesn’t even enter my mind.
The hope of the gospel— the essence of the good news is life everlasting. I’m struggling to understand how you are missing this.
Then you have not had loved ones die, never seen the grief death has brought into peoples lives and do not understand the finality of death if ones loved ones do not know Jesus.
Now you are talking about something else altogether. I was referencing death from a Christian point of view.
For non-Christians, it’s a much different prospect. There is fear and sting and pain. Not so, for Christians. If you have these feelings as a Christian, you’ve lost focus.
Death is death for Christian and non christian, as a Christian I know I will meet again with loved Christians and that I will never meet loved non christians.
That’s not the same thing. “See ya later” is not equivalent to being throw into the lake of fire.
Why are you so fixated on death?
Initially I was replying to a Christian the origi al poster who believes in theistic evolution… This false belief has to say that death is good.
That and your frankly stange belief that death is different for christian and non christian.
What is different is the hope Christians have which enables them to face death.
“Death” is the same for all, in that it is the end of a life. This is only true in a physical sense because for the Christian, the promise is that death is not the end, rather it is a new beginning and that life continues. So while death might be the same, it doesn’t mean the same thing for Christians versus non-Christians.
We all have a terminal condition-- LIFE. It’s 100% fatal, 100% of the time. It can end suddenly, or endure for an age, but inevitably it comes to the same end for all. Except it is NOT the same for all.
This is the promise and premise of Christianity. It’s what gave Daniel and his companions courage in the face of a death sentence-- a sentence we all share in.
If our God whom we are serving exists, he is able to rescue us from the furnace of blazing fire, and he will rescue us, O king, from your power as well.
Referencing this and similar circumstance, the writer of Hebrews says:
Through faith they conquered kingdoms, administered justice, gained what was promised, shut the mouths of lions, quenched raging fire, escaped the edge of the sword, gained strength in weakness, became mighty in battle, put foreign armies to flight, and women received back their dead raised to life. But others were tortured, not accepting release, to obtain resurrection to a better life.41 36 And others experienced mocking and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. They were stoned, sawed apart, murdered with the sword; they went about in sheepskins and goatskins; they were destitute, afflicted, ill-treated (the world was not worthy of them); they wandered in deserts and mountains and caves and openings in the earth.
As Christians-- we need have no fear of death. We are not the same.
Jesus said- 'I am the resurrection and the life. Those who believe in me, even though they die, will live, and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die. ’