How is jesus christ a true righteous king?

General Faith
21

@Hungry

I don’t think He did. Where did you find that wording?
This is what I have:

Matthew 3:16-17
When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.
And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

Mark 1:9-11
It came to pass in those days that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan. And immediately, coming up from the water, He saw the heavens parting and the Spirit descending upon Him like a dove. Then a voice came from heaven, “You are My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

Luke 3:21-22
When all the people were baptized, it came to pass that Jesus also was baptized; and while He prayed, the heaven was opened. And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven which said, “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”

Explain your text please.

KP

(sorry. Footnote. Are you refering to Ps 2 wording?)

22

I say jesus spoke big. A little more than he should have. im a man and the words I speak are heard. Show me a tru savior. And show me how to get to him. The road to life. Very few find. Truth verry few find. so if the question be very few find life. The road how do all you fake ass Christians. Know his way.

23

It was a really cool experience. The conversation was heated. The question was baptism. They told me that jesus does not baptize with fire. And they was coming straight. They thought I was a liar or somthing so I told them hold on let me find the scripture. And when I found it. I showed them. They was amazed at it I seen it in there eyes. And they both at the same time reading king James. Said there it is. After 30 min of hard debate. The experience was priceless.when I quote scripture you better believe it is tru.

24

And if you know it. much less him.would you not shine your light? for a poor hungry fool? You all talk about my god from scripture and that’s good. But do you know him?

25

@Hungry

Scripture makes a sharp distinction between talking about God and knowing God. Knowing God is not mere familiarity with texts, arguments, or religious vocabulary. It is relational, covenantal, and transformative.

The primary Greek verb for knowing is γινώσκω (ginōskō), meaning to know by experience, relationship, or participation, not mere data.
John 17:3[1]
Eternal life is defined not as information, but as relational knowing.

A related noun is γνῶσις (gnōsis), knowledge that can be true but incomplete if detached from love and obedience.
1 Corinthians 8:1–3[2]
Paul draws a line between possessing knowledge and being known by God.

Scripture also uses ἐπίγνωσις (epignōsis), meaning full, deep, or mature knowledge.
Colossians 1:9–10[3]
Knowing God results in a transformed walk, not merely correct speech.

John is especially blunt about this.
1 John 2:3–4[4]
Scripture itself challenges the claim “I know God” if life and obedience do not follow.

Jesus presses this distinction even harder.
Matthew 7:22–23[5]
These people spoke about Jesus. They used His name. They did works. Yet they were not known by Him.

Paul counts everything else as loss compared to this kind of knowing.
Philippians 3:8–10[6]
Even apostolic orthodoxy was not enough without relational knowing.

Now to the heart of your question.

If someone truly knows God, Scripture assumes that knowledge does not stay hidden.
Matthew 5:14–16[7]
Light shines by nature. It does not announce itself; it reveals.

And Scripture is clear about responsibility toward those who do not know.
Romans 10:14[8]
Knowing God produces witness, not silence or superiority.

So the question Scripture forces on all of us is not, “Can you quote Scripture?”
The question is, do you know Him whom the Scriptures testify of?
John 5:39–40[9]

To speak rightly about God from Scripture is good.
To know God in Christ is life itself.
And if one truly knows Him, Scripture assumes that light will not be hidden from those who are hungry for truth.

That is not insult.
That is the biblical standard.

Shalom.

J.

  1. And this is life eternal, that they might know (γινώσκωσιν) thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. - KJV ↩︎

  2. Knowledge (γνῶσις) puffeth up, but charity edifieth… if any man love God, the same is known of him. - KJV ↩︎

  3. …that ye might be filled with the knowledge (ἐπίγνωσις) of his will… that ye might walk worthy of the Lord… increasing in the knowledge (ἐπίγνωσις) of God. - KJV ↩︎

  4. And hereby we do know (γινώσκομεν) that we know (ἐγνώκαμεν) him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar… - KJV ↩︎

  5. …many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord… And then will I profess unto them, I never knew (ἔγνων) you: depart from me… - KJV ↩︎

  6. …that I may know (γνῶναι) him, and the power of his resurrection… - KJV ↩︎

  7. Ye are the light of the world… let your light so shine before men… - KJV ↩︎

  8. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? - KJV ↩︎

  9. Search the scriptures… they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. - KJV ↩︎

26

Jeremiah 31 is my answer to the questain.

27

Good chapter.

The New Covenant
Jer 31:31 (30) Hinei, the days come, saith Hashem, that I will cut a Brit Chadasha with Bais Yisroel, and with Bais Yehudah;
Jer 31:32 (31) Not according to the Brit that I cut with their Avot in the day that I took hold of their yad to take them out of Eretz Mitzrayim; which My Brit they broke, although I was Ba’al (Husband) to them, saith Hashem;
Jer 31:33 (32) But this shall be the Brit that I will cut with Bais Yisroel [T.N. OJBC is Jewish]; After those days, saith Hashem, I will set My Torah in them inwardly, and I will write ketuvim on their hearts; and I will be their Elohim, and they shall be My People.
Jer 31:34 (33) And they shall teach no more every ish his re’a (neighbor), and every ish his brother, saying, Know Hashem; for they shall all have da’as of Me, from the katon of them unto the gadol of them, saith Hashem; for I will forgive their avon, and I will remember their chattat no more.
Jer 31:35 (34) Thus saith Hashem, which giveth the shemesh for an ohr by day, and the chukkot yarei’ach and chukkot kokhavim for an ohr by night, which stirreth up the sea when the waves thereof roar; Hashem Tzva’os is Shmo:
Jer 31:36 (35) If those chukkim depart from before Me, saith Hashem, then the Zera Yisroel also shall cease from being a Goy (Nation) before Me forever.
Jer 31:37 (36) Thus saith Hashem; If Shomayim above can be measured, and, below, the foundations of ha’aretz can be searched out, I will also cast off kol Zera Yisroel for all that they have done, saith Hashem.
Jer 31:38 (37) Hinei, the days are coming, saith Hashem, that the Ir shall be built unto Hashem from the Migdal Chananel unto the Sha’ar HaPinnah (Corner Gate).
Jer 31:39 (38) And the measuring line shall yet go forth straight ahead to Garev Hill, and around to Goah.
Jer 31:40 (39) And the whole valley [of Hinnom] of the pegarim (corpses), and of the deshen (ashes), and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the Sha’ar HaSusim (Horse Gate) to the east, shall be kodesh unto Hashem; it shall not be uprooted, nor destroyed any more l’olam.
OJB.

J.

28

Wow, thank you for that. Now it is pretty clear where you stand and the character you have. You possess an anti-Christ spirit, which is clear to see. As far as

Your acceptance or belief in Him matters not. You can do the works of your father, the devil, and worship him all you want, but Jesus is the LORD of Lords and the King of Kings, whether you like it or not. Accept it or not. Become saved or not. Trust me, you, as well as everyone else, will kneel before Jesus.

Hoping you will see the truth and allow the Truth to set you free. His name is Jesus. Your lame attempt to offend or degrade Christian belief was sad, but telling.

Peter

29

This question only exists if Jesus is quietly reduced below God. Scripture will not tolerate that. Jesus is God from the beginning. Not becoming. Not earning. Not ascending. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” ~John 1:1. That is not potential deity. That is settled reality. Jesus said, “Before Abraham was, I am” ~John 8:58. He took the divine name because it belongs to Him. The Jews knew it. That is why they reached for stones.

Paul shuts the door completely. “By him were all things created, and he is before all things” ~Colossians 1:16–17. You cannot earn titles over what you created. You do not rise to authority over time, space, angels, and men if you are part of creation. The Father Himself says of the Son, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever” ~Hebrews 1:8. God calls the Son God. That ends the debate.

The trials of Jesus did not give Him deity or kingship. They proved His obedience as man. Scripture is exact. “Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered” ~Hebrews 5:8. Obedience was displayed. Authority was not acquired. When God exalted Him, it was not promotion from lack but public vindication of who He already is. “Declared to be the Son of God with power… by the resurrection from the dead” ~Romans 1:4.

Lucifer was a created servant who fell. We are sinners saved by grace. Jesus is the eternal Son who humbled Himself. He did not earn His titles. He revealed them. And any view that treats Christ as climbing toward what Scripture says He already is is not humility. It is error.

Jesus is God. From the beginning. Forever.

30

Your jesus is false. I call him the fake jesus. My jesus has been with us from the beginning.and for what reason. But to suffer thru with us all. Why does it say he reads minds and hearts.from what your saying your jesus would not have to. Because he has nothing to learn. From a man’s heart much less his mind. You need to start reading a little deeper.

31

Just wrong. As a matter of fact, every word that just came out of your, uh, keyboard, is false. Jesus IS. He is the I AM. He is God; it says only God can read the mind and heart of man. That is not to imply God’s weakness or lack of Godliness, rather for US not to judge others on Salvation or hell because we cannot.

Peter

32

Yeah but why does he have to read my heart and mind if he knows me so well? did he not create me or at least know the one who did? Seems to me he should not have to. If you have a questain just ask me and ill tell you. For you know that my heart is good because god created it why must you search it.

33

Calling the eternal Son of God a “fake Jesus” is not discernment. It is denial of Scripture.

The Bible does not present two Jesuses. It presents one. And He is God from the beginning. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” ~John 1:1. That verse leaves no room for a Jesus who becomes divine through suffering.

You are confusing learning obedience as man with lacking divine knowledge as God. Scripture never does that. Jesus knows hearts because He is God. “He knew all men… for he knew what was in man” ~John 2:24–25. Peter said the same thing plainly. “Lord, thou knowest all things” ~John 21:17. Jesus did not read hearts to learn. He read hearts because omniscience belongs to Him.

His suffering did not give Him deity. It displayed obedience in His humanity. “Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered” ~Hebrews 5:8. Learning obedience is not learning information. It is obedience lived out under suffering. Scripture is exact here.

Reducing Christ to someone who earns titles, gains authority, or grows into divine knowledge is not “reading deeper.” It is contradicting what God has said. The Father Himself calls the Son God. “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever” ~Hebrews 1:8.

There is no biblical Jesus who is less than God, growing into deity, or discovering truth. That Jesus does not exist in Scripture.

The real Jesus is God manifested in the flesh ~1 Timothy 3:16. Any other Jesus is not the one revealed by the Word.

34

He said himself the things he learned he learned from seeing his father do them. can you really say god has a son without learning what his father taught him. Sounds a little distorted to me. To the point it makes me ask why he says he has a father figure. If he was always god.

35

O yeah. Kid yourself, many have came in his name saying I am he. And they are here to this day. Using his name for there own purposes. Devising schemes. Deceiving even the elect if it were possible. So the questain stands. is your jesus the one and the same as mine?

36

You are conflating role and nature, Scripture does not.

Jesus did not learn because He did not know. He spoke only what the Father told Him to speak because He came as a man UNDER authority, not because He was LESS than God.

Jesus clarifies this Himself. “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do” ~John 5:19. Do you see ignorance there? No, submission. Obeying His Father perfectly within the Godhead, NOT learning as if He didn’t know.

Scripture clearly says Jesus knows everything already. “He knew all men… for he knew what was in man” ~John 2:24–25. Peter said it plainly: “Lord, thou knowest all things” ~John 21:17. If Jesus needed to learn people’s hearts, then those verses would lie. But they don’t.

Jesus existed before creation, and created ALL things. “By him were all things created… and he is before all things” ~Colossians 1:16–17. You cannot learn of creation if you CREATED it.

Jesus has a Father because God IS triune. The Father, Son, and Spirit are each distinct persons, NOT separate Gods. Scripture never shies away from this. “I and my Father are one” ~John 10:30. One Being. Not one role. One essence.

When it says in Hebrews that He “learned obedience” ~Hebrews 5:8. It isn’t referring to learning facts about obedience. It is speaking of Him experiencing what obedience cost Him as man. HE lived under authority by suffering. Obedience is something you DO, not something you study.

There is no picture of Jesus in Scripture gradually becoming God. But there is the picture of the eternal Son of God making Himself nothing. “Who, being in the form of God… took upon him the form of a servant” ~Philippians 2:6–7.

If Jesus was not always God, then He could not reveal the Father to us. Scripture says that is EXACTLY what He did. “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father” ~John 14:9.

I am not warping Scripture to fit my belief. This is exactly what Scripture says. The problem is when we elevate our own reasoning over GOD’S WORD.

“Let God be true, but every man a liar” ~Romans 3:4.

37

There is only one real Jesus Christ, and that is the Jesus the bible teaches about, not one someone makes up.

Here is how you tell if it is the same Jesus.

The real Jesus is God.
Not becoming God.
Not learning to be God.
Not growing into God.

“In the beginning was the Word… and the Word was God” ~John 1:1.

The real Jesus knows everything.
He does not need to learn hearts.
“He knew all men… for he knew what was in man” ~John 2:24–25.

The real Jesus made everything.
Creators do not learn from creation.
“By him were all things created” ~Colossians 1:16.

The real Jesus became a man, but never stopped being God.
“God was manifest in the flesh” ~1 Timothy 3:16.

So here is the test, real simple:

If your Jesus
• is not fully God
• had to grow into knowledge
• had to earn who He is

then that is another Jesus ~2 Corinthians 11:4.

If your Jesus is
• eternal
• all-knowing
• Creator
• God in the flesh

then that is the Jesus of the Bible.

This is not opinion.
This is Scripture.

“Let God be true, but every man a liar” ~Romans 3:4.

38

Yeah, some of Paul’s writings trouble me. Like right there. Every man a liar. I can see him saying, every man but one. but to say every man. means jesus christ as well? for is he not a man too.

39

He dont have to prove himself or learn anything anymore because of the simple fact he is our high priest and he has already learned these things from his father creator. But to say he never had to learn is blasphemy. To say it was all given and not earned would lead many to damnation. Because if he can do that for one why not everyone? Problem solved before it starts.

40

And one more thing. take malchizadec the anointed king of peace. if jesus had nothing to learn why would he not be the king of peace? And just a prince?