Is Being Gay a Sin?

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Is Homosexuality a Sin?

Homosexuality is a topic that’s sparked a lot of debate in the church today. With culture changing and LGBTQ+ issues being more openly discussed, many Christians are asking, “What does the Bible really say about homosexuality?” and “How should we respond to those in same-sex relationships while still showing love and grace?”

Here are two questions to think about:

  1. Does God’s design for relationships include same-sex relationships?
  2. How do we respond when people go against what the Bible says about sexuality?

What are your thoughts on how Christians should navigate this?

For more, check out this article: Is Homosexuality a Sin?.
Also, listen to No, I Wasn’t Born This Way… and I Have Come Home at Last: Jason Hill Testimony on Lifeaudio.

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Is being gay a sin? Absolutely! Read Genesis 1:27 and 5:2. And then read chapter 2:24. There is absolutely no wiggle room. Anybody, and I mean anybody, who participates in this sin is willingly, stubbornly, and purposely going against the will of God. We as Christians should definitely not support it. We should expose it for what it is. Remember, through Christ we have the power to "…destroy every proud obstacle that keeps people from knowing God. We capture their rebellious thoughts and teach them to obey Christ." Gayness is just as bad as being a Satanist. And “what harmony can there be between Christ and the devil?” (2 Corinthians 6:15).

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so i Cannot be a Gay Christian ?

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@m801
Sounds like you are asking a question that was discussed in this topic thread Can You Be Both Christian and Gay? What the Bible Says
Hope this helps to give you some different perspectives, from different Christian posters, discussed more than in this forum topic and you can share some of your own views.

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No, it’s not a sin unless they have lust in their hearts or act on it to make it their lifestyle. Then, it clearly violates biblical truth.

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I believe the stance of this website is that homosexuality is a sin. But not all Christian churches believe this. There is a departure in this docctrinal stance by some churches based on scientific research, both biological and psychological.

The real problem here, in a nut shell, is the conflict between science and religion. It is not dissimilar from how some churches still deny the existence of dinosaurs and the age of the planet rather than integrating the knowledge. They do this out of fear- because the “knowledge” counters a long held belief by the church which was based on an interpretation of Scripture which also, by doctrine, can never be wrong.

If you pull a thread long enough, people start to panic that their faith is based on lies. Its like pulling the God shaped rug out from under them. In a nut shell, it is easier to scream that homosexuality is a sin at pride parades than to accept that homosexuality is a nornal occurance in nature in many species of creatures and not at all a choice that can be altered by the person on a whim. It is easier to forsake a sinner than to make room for their existence when acceptance means your understanding of reality will be wrong.

The church also once believed the sun circled the earth and they killed anyone who said otherwise. And look where we are now. The world was once flat too. And apparently might still be according to some people. Which is why I have learned to think for myself.

I like pulling on threads because the truth makes my faith more real. And I put what Christ taught me and modelled for me above all else. I think of the young blind man healed by Christ who was disowned by his parents and thrown out of the Temple. And there was Christ, waiting for him right outside the door. Sometimes we find God in the church. But other times we don’t find Him until they have thrown us out. Or we have escaped with our lives.

The rejected stone becomes the corner stone. And they will know you belong to God by your love. If the love isn’t there, kick the dust off your feet and keep going because you arent home yet. There is a temple thats gonna be built someday, and the Architect is looking for worthy materials.

Is it a coincidence that gay people hold up a rainbow flag? A rainbow because gay people are found in every culture, every tribe, every color. While a rainbow also symbolizes God’s promise to never end the world by flood again.

This flag has been used for how many decades now? And yet in all that time it was not until this moment in time that we have started experiencing catestrophic flooding events like none we have ever experienced. Just as all the rights and protections gained by these persecuted fringe communities are most threatened of being stripped away, and right as some pastors in some Christian churches are shouting to have them executed….

It is quite Biblical for God to throw down when protecting His people. Just ask Moses. And that flag is His symbol, being yanked out of classrooms. Food for thought. Or maybe its because the planet that God created has been mistreated and God is expressing some displeasure over this. Or maybe it’s space lasers and weather machines and cloud seeding. Wisdom is usually proven right by Her children.

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Relationship, bonding, imprinting can be done regardless of gender. Love and affection are programmed to be a necessary part of human developement to such a degree that a human child can be raised by wolves. But anyone void of intimacy, physical touch, and affection in their lives can whither and die in the isolation. Love no matter who loves us nourishes us. And to forbid it is a death sentence.

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I think a better question is, why do you need to respond? Do you go to proms with blow horns to announce that sex before marriage is a sin? Like is done at Gay Prides? And yet how many of you parents would disown your own kids for having premarital sex if they were straight? How many of you would equally seek to know if your kids were having sex no matter if they were gay or straight?

So why do you think it is appropriate for you to know if a stranger is having sex? Or with who? Or to go on and tell a stranger you have never met that they are a sinner of any kind?

The measure of these reactions are cultural in nature, politically encouraged, and based on surface level appearance only- not based on a Christ centered faith that speaks of deeper truths.

The Bible is very specific about how inappropriate it is to correct someone else for their sins except under very specific situations. Where does the Bible say to go tell all the sinners they are sinners? That is not the Gospel message. That is an assault on a stranger you have never met.

-Take the log out of your own eye before clearing the speck out of another.

-Who are you to judge another man’s servant.

-Judge not lest you be judged.

-Keep none of these little ones from coming to me.

The behavior of some churches regarding gay people spits in the face of God’s Love, Christ’s Sacrifice, and all the mercy and grace He has ever shown them, those who dare to call themselves His church. How ungrateful to expect another sinner to come sinless to the Lord or to pay their own debts and transform themselves and save their own souls when you have eaten free at the table of the Lord, stuffing yourselves while others starved.

Do you walk sinless in this life of your own accord? Do you enjoy having your sins or mistakes shoved in your face?

Explain to me how shouting at sinners through a blow horn emulates Christ? Embodies the Law of Love? Shows your enemies mercy or kindness that inspires?

And yet it is the Holy Spirit’s job to convict and bring change, not yours. God, who knows all things, Who knows the best approach to get the job done.. Your job is to bring them to Christ. Not to twist them into twice the child of hell as those of you who profess to know Christ and clearly don’t. The Love of God is no where to be seen. Just hate and hell and God’s judgement. That is your Gospel. Damnation to the world.

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Hmmm-ever read Ephesians and Romans? @Tillman

Jesus Himself did not shrink from telling sinners about their sin. In John 8:11 He told the woman caught in adultery, “Go, and sin (hamartane) no more.”

In Mark 1:15 His very first preaching was, “Repent (metanoeite) and believe (pisteuete) in the gospel.” Repentance means a turning from sin, so the call cannot be given without identifying that people are sinners who must turn. That is not an assault, it is a summons from the King.

The apostles followed the same pattern. At Pentecost Peter declared in Acts 2:23 that the people had “crucified and killed” Jesus by the hands of lawless men. This cut them to the heart, and only then did he offer forgiveness in Christ. Paul in Acts 17:30 told the Athenians that God “commands (parangellei) all people everywhere to repent.”

That was directed at strangers and idolaters, not at intimate friends alone.

As for the claim that correction is only allowed in limited cases, it is true that Matthew 18:15–17 gives a pattern for discipline within the church. But that does not silence the broader prophetic mandate to speak against sin in the world.

Ephesians 5:11 commands believers, “Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose (elenchete) them.”

The verb elenchō is the same used of the Spirit’s work in John 16:8, “He will convict (elengxei) the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment.” If the Spirit convicts the world, the church which is His instrument must also bear that witness.

The Gospel is not merely “God loves you,” it is that God has demonstrated His love in Christ’s cross precisely because you are under wrath for sin (Romans 5:8–9).

To tell a sinner he is a sinner is not an assault, it is mercy, for unless he hears the diagnosis he will never cry out for the cure.

Love without truth is sentimentality, truth without love is brutality, but the Gospel weds them together. We announce judgment so that men may flee to grace, and we announce grace so that men may not despair under judgment.

J.

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Spare me @Tillman

The argument that “the Spirit convicts, not you” is half true and therefore dangerous. The Spirit convicts, yes, but He does so through the Word preached. Paul says, “How shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they are sent?” (Romans 10:14–15). The Spirit does not whisper the gospel apart from human mouths, He uses vessels who proclaim Christ crucified. To tell a sinner he is a sinner is not hate, it is faithfulness, because Paul says plainly, “The law was given that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God” (Romans 3:19).

Paul himself named sins publicly. He wrote to the Corinthians, “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9–10). That was written not in whispers but as Scripture to be read aloud. He did not apologize for naming sins, he gloried in announcing, “And such were some of you, but you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ” (v. 11).

You quote Matthew 7, “Judge not,” but Paul explains the context. He says in 1 Corinthians 5:12–13, “What have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside that you are to judge? God judges those outside. Purge the evil person from among you.” Within the church, sin must be judged, outside the church sin must be confronted with the gospel. To silence that is to gag the apostolic witness. Paul did not walk into Athens and applaud their “intimacy.” He declared, “The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now He commands all men everywhere to repent” (Acts 17:30).

You accuse believers of hate, but Paul says the opposite. “Have I become your enemy by telling you the truth?” (Galatians 4:16). Real hate is to watch a man perish in his sin and say nothing. Real love is to warn of wrath and then point to the crucified Christ who bore that wrath.

The Gospel is not a therapeutic hug, it is a bloody cross. God “set forth” Christ “to demonstrate His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus” (Romans 3:25–26). If we do not name sin, then the cross becomes meaningless sentiment. Paul did not shrink from declaring “the whole counsel of God” (Acts 20:27). To hide sin is to hide the very reason Christ died.

Therefore your rebuke of churches for calling sin what it is is not aligned with Paul. Paul would rebuke you for silencing the prophetic word. He commanded, “Preach the word, be urgent in season and out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort” (2 Timothy 4:2). If you say that is “hate,” then you accuse the apostle himself of hate.

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

What does it mean to be “dead?”

J.

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The Bible is clear that homosexuality is sin. There’s no way around it, no matter how much people try to soften it. Anything that goes against the nature God intended is sin. God created man and woman for each other (Genesis 2:24), and when we step outside of that design because of carnal passions, it’s rebellion against Him.

The Scriptures speak plainly:

  • Leviticus 18:22 — “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”

  • Romans 1:26–27 — Paul describes men and women leaving natural relations and burning with lust for one another, calling it “against nature.”

  • 1 Corinthians 6:9–10 — “Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality… will inherit the kingdom of God.”

From a Christian perspective, it isn’t even a debate. Homosexuality, like adultery, fornication, or any sexual immorality, is sin. It doesn’t matter how the world sugarcoats it, normalizes it, or legalizes it. If God calls it sin, then it is sin. Period.

Now, it’s also true that God hates sin, but He doesn’t hate sinners. He loves people so much that He sent His Son to die for all sinners (John 3:16, Romans 5:8). But at the same time, those who stubbornly reject Him, blinded by pride and false self-assurance, will face judgment. Pride keeps people from repentance, and without repentance, sin leads to death (Romans 6:23).

The hope is in Christ. Right after warning against sin, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 6:11: “And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” That means change is possible. No sin is too strong for God’s grace.

So yes—homosexuality is sin according to Scripture. But the gospel message is this: while sin separates us from God, forgiveness and transformation are found in Jesus Christ. God calls all of us to turn from sin, humble ourselves, and walk in the new life He offers.

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Notice how the questions I ask are never direcrly answered? No one explained how yelling through a blow horn emulates Christ. One of many questions they always skirt around.

No one explained why homosexuality recieves more attention from conservative churches and the GOP than any other sin. And no one ever acknowledges that the more you judge others, the more likely you are committing the very same sin you are attacking through another person. Or doing something far worse.. It is all psychological, not Spiritual like they would have you believe. Which is why they often rail against psychology. Darkness shrieks in the light. And hides from the truth.

GOP conventions crash gay hookup apps. Fact. Liquer stores sell out during Church Conventions. Fact. How many children have been abused in a church by clergy men? How many people have left the church because they don’t feel safe for themselvss or their children? How mamy people have left because of the behavior of churches?

(But not all churches. Not all Christians.)

Judge not lest ye be judged.

You can scour this site for actual lived in experience, a witness of God moving in someone’s life, a testimony of how someone has been transformed by the Holy Spiriit but you will rarely find it. Because they have nothing to give but Scriptures. Like an AI wirh no real life, just an agenda.

Remember, the proof is in the pudding.

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Back to the topic @Tillman -Is being gay a sin?

J.

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@Johann

Death is a byproduct of Sin. Nothing exists that is not somehow corrupted by Sin. Thus, all things die. Even faith and hope come to an eventual, inevitable, natural conclusion never to rise again.

Love alone survives the end of all things. And only that which resides in God’s Love will know eternal life.

If you have no love in your heart, you are nothing. Just a white washed tomb with a dead man’s bones. And you will never know eternal life. Whether you are gay, straight, rich or poor, can speak in tongues, know the Bible by heart, or stand next to someone you count as a bigger sinner than yourself.

Sin is Death, Love is Life.

That is my answer to you and the topic of this post.

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If you or anyone here wishes to be saved, you can start by asking Christ to come into your life. You can ask God to forgive you for your lack of Love and ask Him to teach you what it means to Love in the Way that is pleasing to God. Ask God to teach you how to grow this Love in your heart- How to set down all the ways of this world which do not embody that Love and to recieve the Living Water that will save you when all other things cease to be.

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You need to listen to this @Tillman

  1. ἐπιθυμία (epithymia)
    Meaning: desire, longing, craving. It can be used positively (Luke 22:15, Jesus desiring to eat the Passover) or negatively (Romans 7:7, “You shall not covet”).
    Key verses:

Matthew 5:28, “everyone who looks at a woman with lust (πρὸς τὸ ἐπιθυμῆσαι) has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”

Romans 13:14, “make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts (ἐπιθυμίας).”
It is the most frequent New Testament word for lust, but it is not restricted to sexual desire, rather any strong craving.

  1. ἐπιθυμέω (epithymeō)
    Verb form of the same root, meaning “to desire, to lust after, to covet.”

Luke 15:16, the prodigal “longed (ἐπεθύμει) to be fed with the pods.”

Galatians 5:17, “the flesh lusts (ἐπιθυμεῖ) against the Spirit.”

  1. πάθος (pathos)
    Meaning: passion, strong emotion, often with a negative sexual connotation.

Romans 1:26, “God gave them up to dishonorable passions (πάθη ἀτιμίας).”

Colossians 3:5, “put to death therefore… passion (πάθος), evil desire (ἐπιθυμίαν κακήν).”
Here, πάθος points to uncontrolled drives, inflamed urges, the kind of passion that consumes and enslaves.

  1. ὄρεξις (orexis)
    Meaning: desire, appetite, craving.

Romans 1:27, “men burned in their desire (ὀρέξει) for one another.”
This is the only NT usage, and it carries an unmistakably sexual overtone.

  1. ἡδονή (hēdonē)
    Meaning: pleasure, sensual delight, gratification, indulgence.

James 4:1, “your passions (ἡδοναί) are at war within you.”

Titus 3:3, “slaves to various lusts and pleasures (ἐπιθυμίαις καὶ ἡδοναῖς).”
This is where we get the English word “hedonism.” It implies indulgent, self-centered craving for pleasure.

So the main cluster of words are ἐπιθυμία / ἐπιθυμέω (desire, lust), πάθος (passion), ὄρεξις (desire, appetite), and ἡδονή (pleasure).

Voddie quote :“Enough of this gay stuff already!”

Do NOT “love” the world…! But wait a minute-God IS LOVE! Right?

“Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust (ἐπιθυμία) of the flesh and the lust (ἐπιθυμία) of the eyes and the pride of life is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world is passing away and its lust (ἐπιθυμία), but he who does the will of God abides forever.

J.

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@Johann

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I know which Love I am talking about. I actually have a relationship with Jesus Christ. I actually went to a Christian University and studied the Bible and Christian Ministries. I actually served in a church. My life is dedicated to followong God and dealing with the tough questions most people run from.

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I don’t have to listen to You Tube. You Tube is in the world. I don’t treat influencers as preachers because they are not. I don’t treat their products as Scripture because it isn’t.

Social Media will tell you exactly whst you want to hear. That is what the algorithms and search engines are designed to do. To give you what you want, and to mold your mind to make you more pliable to the world and those who live by the Desires you mentioned.

My ears don’t itch to hear words that would give me permission to hate others and destroy life, as the children of the Devil do, because the Spirit of Life lives within me. And I know the difference.

Satan pursues the complete destruction of life, as do his children. They accuse, looking for reasons to destroy life, arguing before God for someone’s judgement and damnation.

The children of God pursue salvation and life everlasting. They fight to save the lost. They argue in the high courts for the sake of the defendant as Christ does, mediating for one minute more that none be lost.

You cannot live in both spirits. One is your God, and one is your Enemy.

I am not swayed or lead by social media because God Is With Me. I have a guide, a Good Counselor, that reveals truth to me, that corrects me when I move the wrong direction. And I know malarky when I see it.

So don’t you dare tell me what I need to look at.

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God loves the Creation. He does not hate what His hands have made. You misunderstand what is meant by the word, WORLD..

There are some influenced by the Christian Gnostic Traditions, like the notion that a false god created the world, thus all that materially exists is evil. To them, life is not something to be celebrated but detached from. Holidays, birthdays, the desire for your spouse that God gave you, the desire to sustain your body with food and drink- all evil.

Those on this path live to die. In the body. They argue we should return to a state of being spirit alone. Energy. Nonexistence. Because we are trapped in a state of form.

This idea exists throughout the world in various forms of various religions, but the version I wrote of is most closely attached to Zoroastrianism. Which Christianity draws a good deal of influence.

The Christian Faith, on the other hand, believes in the Ressurection, a Transformation that requires that a material physical world exist. And just as God resurects the Body, God ressurects the World. Or Planet, in this instance.

We use WORLD to imply planet but also a state of reality and a way of life. How we llive our lives. What goals we pursue. Like living in harmony with others or living in competition. All life is Sacred or survival of the fittest.

World can also mean a system. Or a state of delusion. What you think to be true versus what IS. Or ways that lead to destruction. Which can be altered by new understanding, teachings, revelation, having your heart and mind transformed by God as Christ does.

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@Tillman

What has this to do with the topic under discussion?

Scripture teaches homosexual practice is sin.

The Greek verbs hammer it down. God gave them over (paredōken). They exchanged (metēllaxan).

They abandoned (aphentes). They were inflamed (exekauthēsan). They continuously worked out shameful acts (katergazomenoi).

Those who practice such things will not inherit (klēronomēsousin) the kingdom.

But the same passage turns to the cross, you were (ēte) sinners, but you were washed (apelousasthe), were sanctified (hēgiasthēte), and were justified (edikaiōthēte) in Christ.

Joh 3:36 The one with emunah in the Ben [HaElohim] has Chayyei Olam; but the one disobeying the Ben [HaElohim] will not see Chayyim, but the Charon Af Hashem remains on him.

Joh 3:36 And he who believes in (has faith in, clings to, relies on) the Son has (now possesses) eternal life. But whoever disobeys (is unbelieving toward, refuses to trust in, disregards, is not subject to) the Son will never see (experience) life, but [instead] the wrath of God abides on him. [God’s displeasure remains on him; His indignation hangs over him continually.] [Hab_2:4]

  1. "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life”: (ho pisteuon eis ton huion echei zoen aionion) “The one trusting into the heir-redeemer has, holds, or possess life eternal,” everlasting, or forevermore. In Jesus is eternal security and rest and release from the fear and dangers of hell, as expressed also by our Lord, Joh_3:15-16; Joh_5:24; 1Jn_5:13; Joh_10:27-28. The possession of everlasting life, by a believer in this life, is a fact, not a farce! As is espoused by those who teach the evil doctrine of apostasy.

  2. ''And he that believeth not the Son, shall not see life," (ho de apeithon to huio ouk opsetai zoen) “Yet the one disobeying (trusting or believing not) the heir-redeemer Son will not see life,” The one going on in a state of rejecting Jesus as the Savior, only person and source of salvation, as the ceremonial Pharisee and Sadducee religionists did, shall not see life, everlasting life, Mat_5:20; Rom_10:1-4; Joh_8:24.

  3. “But the wrath of God abideth on him.” (all’ he orge tou theou menei ep’ auton) “But in contrast the wrath of God remains upon him,” in his obstinate distrust of, and belief in, the Son of God as the redeemer, the Savior, the deliverer of all who believe in Him. He is lost, perishing, condemned, as a child of wrath, afar off from God, in spiritual ignorance, with God’s anger against him and His wrath over him every day, Psa_7:11-12; Luk_19:10; Isa_53:4-6; Joh_3:16; Joh_3:18; Eph_2:3; Eph_2:12; Eph_4:18; Pro_1:22-23.

Why are you questioning my salvation and turning it into something personal? If your issue is with social media, then remember this forum itself is a form of social media.

Do not shift the blame onto the messenger, for we are here to orthotomountes ton logon tēs alētheias (2 Timothy 2:15, “rightly cutting straight the word of truth”).

Our task is to katartizō (Ephesians 4:12, “equip, prepare, train”) the saints both in manner of life and in the way we interact online.
Scripture calls us to speak in a way that oikodomeō (Ephesians 4:29, “builds up”) and to didaskō (Colossians 3:16, “teach”) with grace and truth, not to attack one another but to strengthen one another in Christ.

Now, can we get back to the topic?

J.

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It has everything to do with what we are talking about. You are applying Gnostic thinking to homosexuality while applying Christian thinking to yourself.

You tell the Homosexual that his desires for intimacy, touch, and a spouse to someone he is attractted to is evil while saying your own desire for these things is good.

Paul tells us that it is better not to marry for the sake of the Gospel because the time is short.

(Not as short as he originally thought, apparently. Perhaps an Apostle can be mistaken in their understanding?)

But he goes on to say that it is better to marry than burn with lust, which can lead to sin. He said this with the understanding that men and women are weak and will be naturally susceptible to sin if the desire is strong enough. He wrote this to Christians, who had received the Holy Spirit.

But you give no such mercy or outlet for someone who desires the same sex only. You expect them to be celibate though you yourself do not have to be. It is quite easy to sit on a high horse when you yourself don’t have to walk to get to where you are going.

This is about your own lack of mercy, not the state of their attraction. And you are basing your interpretation on the material focus of gender, which is a gnostic focus, rather than the spiritual focus of their heart, which is a Christian focus.

Keep in mind that Paul follows his list of unredeemable behavior with, Romans 2:1 which says,

You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Which means EVERY time you go after adulterers, fornicators, idolaters, and homosexuals, you are condeming yourself.

You are right now committing the same sin as the Romans he was writing to. And according to Paul, You cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven. So how can you guide someone to it?

But by all means, get back on topic. I will not interupt you again.

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Many years ago I had a small part in helping to form this statement for our community and I continue to stand by it:

The practice of homosexuality is a sin. Sexual activity of any kind with a member of the same sex is always a sin. Homosexual fantasy-driven lust is sin, just as heterosexual fantasy-driven lust is sin. But:

A tendency toward homosexuality and homosexual temptation is not sinful. Being attracted to members of the same sex.), though not a sin, is less than God’s will for that person. Practiced homosexuality has different and sometimes more serious personal and social consequences than other forms of sexual sin. Homosexuality is arguably a more serious deviation from God’s created order than other sexual sins; however, ultimately all sin is equally serious in God’s eyes, and God loves a practicing homosexual no less than he does a practicing fornicator or adulterer.

Homosexuals are human beings made in God’s image for whom Christ died. Homosexuals are not less deserving of our love and courtesy than other 'sinners" but, instead, are similar to the sexually compromised and outcast people Jesus made a point of seeking out and being kind to.

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@Tillman
You accuse me of Gnostic thinking, but the Scriptures cut through such confusion. God has spoken plainly about sin, and His word stands forever. First, homosexuality is not placed in a separate category from other sins, nor is it excused on the basis of desire. Romans 1:26–27 declares with clear verbs that God paredōken (παρέδωκεν, “gave them over”) to dishonorable passions, and that men exekauthēsan (ἐξεκαύθησαν, “burned”) in their lust toward one another. The verb shows active inflaming, not neutral desire, and the Spirit calls it aschemosynēn (ἀσχημοσύνην, “shameful acts”).

This is not my interpretation, it is the revealed judgment of God.

Second, marriage is defined by God, not by human reinterpretation. Genesis 2:24 uses the verb dabaq (דָּבַק, “to cling, to be joined”) where a man shall cling to his wife and they shall become one flesh. Jesus repeats this in Matthew 19:5–6 with the verb proskollēthēsetai (προσκολληθήσεται, “shall be joined”), grounding marriage in male-female union.

Paul does not permit same-sex “marriage” as an outlet, because the Creator Himself defines marriage. To call that definition “Gnostic” is to blaspheme the Lord who made male and female.

Third, the issue of judgment in Romans 2:1 is twisted in your use. Paul does not say that no one may call sin what it is. He condemns hypocrites who prassontes (πράσσοντες, “practice”) the very same sins while condemning others.

This does not mean we cannot expose sin, for the same Paul commanded in Ephesians 5:11, mē sunkoinōneite (μὴ συγκοινωνεῖτε, “do not participate”) in the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather elenchete (ἐλέγχετε, “expose them”).

Judgmental hypocrisy is forbidden, but Spirit-filled exposure of sin is commanded.

Fourth, you suggest Paul was mistaken about the time being short. That is not exegesis, that is unbelief. Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians 7:29, ho kairos synestalmenos estin (ὁ καιρὸς συνεσταλμένος ἐστίν, “the time has been shortened”), are Spirit-inspired, teaching urgency in light of the coming Kingdom, not a miscalculation. Peter reminds us in 2 Peter 3:8–9 that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and the Lord is not slow but patient, calling sinners to repentance. The apostles were not mistaken, they were Spirit-breathed heralds of God’s word.

Fifth, the charge of “lack of mercy” is false. True mercy is found only in Christ crucified and risen. Titus 3:5 says He saved us, ou ex ergōn (οὐκ ἐξ ἔργων, “not by works”) but by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit. Mercy never excuses sin, it transforms sinners. Paul himself said in 1 Corinthians 6:9–11 that the sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, arsenokoitai (ἀρσενοκοῖται, “men who lie with men”) will not inherit the Kingdom. But he follows with the gospel, kai tauta tines ēte (καὶ ταῦτά τινες ἦτε, “and such were some of you”), but you were washed, sanctified, justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. That is mercy—deliverance from sin, not affirmation of it.

Finally, your argument collapses under the weight of Scripture. To affirm same-sex desire as good is to call evil good and good evil, and Isaiah 5:20 warns woe upon those who do so. God’s wrath menei (μένει, “remains”) on those who persist in unbelief (John 3:36), yet His love is revealed in the cross where Christ died for sinners (Romans 5:8). Repentance and faith in Him alone is the way of mercy. To preach any other gospel is to stand condemned (Galatians 1:8–9).

So the real lack of mercy would be to let a sinner walk blind into eternal wrath while affirming his rebellion as love. True love speaks the truth, warns of judgment, and points to the only Savior who breaks chains and gives new life.

Adieu.
J.