Should teachers lead students in prayer?

Should teachers lead students in prayer?

This discussion invites views on whether teachers should lead prayer in schools, in light of Texas legislation promoting school prayer and religious displays.

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The role of prayer in public schools has long been a topic of passionate debate. Some see school-led prayer as a way to encourage moral values and religious freedom, while others believe it crosses the line between church and state, especially in a diverse classroom.

Recent developments in Texas have reignited this discussion, with new legislation pushing to reintroduce both teacher-led prayer and displays of the Ten Commandments in schools. Supporters argue it restores foundational values, while critics raise concerns about coercion and religious neutrality.

What are your thoughts? Should teachers be allowed—or even encouraged—to lead students in prayer, or does that risk infringing on religious liberty in a public education setting?

Read more about the Texas initiative here:

I think unwanted prayer is sinful. Forcing someone to pray, when they don’t want to, disrespects that person’s personal boundaries.

Especially under the guise of doing the Lord’s work. It is controlling and manipulative. And far from heart felt.

Even when I was younger and in my most religious phase, I never liked pushy religious types forcing prayer on me or others. It never sat right in my spirit. And felt even worse when I forced prayers on others who did not want it.

With that said, if a student truly wants prayer because they are hurting, prayer should be allowed amongst the students. Amongst those they are comfotable with and trust, and just them. And it should be sugfested that this child talk with an educated school counselor privately because they are obviously in emotional distress

If a teacher wants prayer, leave the kids out of it. Go to your coworkera. Don’t force children to deal with adult issues even in prayer.

Most parents do not engage teachers enough to know or trust the spiritual nature of the teacher or if that nature aligns with their own values. Ao they should stay out of it…

A private personal prayer should not be broadcast out, made public to invite the whole class to participate in when children make a habit of using private personal information to hurt each other.

A teacher should not be alone with a student in a closed off space to do a private prayer with a student, for obvious reasons. It does not look right and you have no idea if that teacher is a predator.

Prayer should not be treated as a political talking point. Especially when most if not all politicians need to get down on their knees and pray for their own sins, and their own need for forgiveness.

So should schools lead prayers?
If it is a Catholic school, yes. A Christian school, yes. A place where teachers are vetted and aligned with the principles of the school, yes. Where the children are inserted by families who share the values of the school, yes. Then it should be expected for public non invasive non personal prayers to occur led by administrators of the cloth.

Public schools where none of this has been taken seriously let alone ensured? Abaolutely not. If you can’t take the time to do it right, take it seriously, or protect the boundaries of the children, you don’t have any right to do it and you aren’t serving or respecting God by trying to enforce it.

If Christians truly want to serve Jesus in school setttings, do things that encourage better mental health instead. Make it easier to have counseling sessions. Teach kids how to cope eith emotional distress, and how to solve conflicts nonviolently.

Teach virtue- integrety, honesty, wisdim, how to think for themslves, finding joy in the little things, sarisfaction through completing goals, fulfillment and happiness through connection with family and community and spending time away from the phones, tvs, and computers.

Teach them how to form bonds with others, and each other, how to build trust and not to take it for granted or to trust too easily those who will take advantage.

Teach them how to respect each other and why that is important in order to be a good member of society.

These are useful things that will serve God becauae they nourish and strengthen your children to do good in this world and succeed.

Also, I would argue that if Christians truly wish to foster an envionment of religious freedom, they should treat the beliefs and faith and religions of others with as much respect as they wish their own beliefs, faith and religion to recieve. No matter how much you disagree with them.

Because promoting an environment where peaceful discourse can take place ensures that the Gospel can be heard and possibly accepted.

Where as Stepping on others, and disrespecting their boundaries, dismissing what they believe, and being rude in your delivery system in order to get what you want will only foster hate toward you and your cause

Not to mention, it will turn people away from God because they don’t see Jesus or God in you. They see the evil that you do in God’s Name when you do these things. And they attribute that to God, because you represent God to them. And the end does not justify the means.

And I would posit the church needs to own some responsibility in the expansion of Godless people. Instead of just blaming all of those people.

Because if the church at large (and I don’t mean all churches or all Christians) had not been self serving, or manipulative about the Gospel-

Preachers asking for money while living in mansions.

Churches with cult like behaviors under charasmatic leadership that seperate people from their nonbelieving families, damning others and using fear tactics to keep people in line

Using nonprofit services in a manipulative manner to spread the Gospel or fill seats instead of genuinely caring about people and the well being of others.

Commicating through action, stance, and public ridicule of others to the whole world that God’s Love is conditional, which is heresy.

Then maybe that character trait of Unconditional Love might have more readily been seen. Recieved.
And spread out. Far more than the selfish grasping, pointing fingers, and the victim attitude at every rebuke.

But that is my opinion. I am just watching you.

I think you’re right. Prayer should not be forced on anyone. I think forced spiritual practices actually push people away from God more than bring them to Him. Having a relationship with Jesus is a choice, the means of communicating with Him should be also.

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I think that there is a huge misunderstanding with respect to the concept of “separation of Church and State.” Those words don’t appear anywhere in the Constiturion. Rather its a concept that is part of the First Amendment, which guarantees citizens freedom of speech and religion.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”

It’s intended to keep Government out of religion, not religion out of government. It’s to ensure that we never establish a Church of America, the way that tax payers were once forced to support a Church of England… one major reason the Pilgrims fled for this new land of opportunity where they could freely practice and live out their faith as they saw fit to do.

Prayer in school has historical significance and that history is why the Supreme Court considers it perfectly acceptable and within the parameters of the establishment clause. That same court has opened every session since it’s inception with “God save the United States and this Honorable Court!”.

It was ‘cancel culture’ that over-reached to remove religion from schools, the display of the ten commandments from courthouses, and that promoted this false idea that there must be a removal of religion from public discourse. It’s nonsense and it was never the intent of our founders. We had prayer in school for 200 years and no one complained until the radical 1960’s.

In it’s most recent ruling, the Supreme Court stated that schools should look to “historical practices and understandings” to determine whether a given act runs afoul of the separation of church and state. Interestingly, my little California hometown now opens City Council meetings with prayer— simply because the Mayor chooses to exercise her faith, rather than cower.

Hi,
The same Constitution that allows us freedom of religion, also allows others freedom from religion.

Allow a minute of prayer time during homeroom. Let each student silently pray, or not pray. Get on with the learning.
Don’t make a big deal out of it.

Blessings

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And then there’s this…

This Friday, Satanists will hold a public Satanic mass at the Kansas Statehouse — desecrating a place built for justice, righteousness, and the rule of law. They come to mock God, to celebrate death, and to normalize evil in the heartland of America.