You cited a quote from CNN which states that the crowds were → protesting immigration raids ← It says nothing about “demanding full [citizen’s] rights for all immigrants”.
WOW!
Looking into history…If anybody should be deported what people should it really be.
Why learn History?
So that History doesn’t repeat itself.
Laws are made for many reasons. Some to keep people in when they can be used for the benifit of others.
Some to kick them out, when one believes it will upset their agenda.
Are “obeying the laws of the land” inclusive when the laws are against love, empathy and human respect.
Did Shadrack, Mishach and Abendagoa obey the laws of the land when they were told to bow down to other God’s?
God is love, Did Moses obey the laws of the land when He fought for His brotheren. God is Love- should we obey laws that go against Love and human respect?
Or are we as a people becoming complacent in terms of human decency only until the laws created make us tremble?
WHEN THE LAWS OF THE LAND GO AGAINST THE LAW OF God..isn’t that the time to stand for what is right?
Now don’t quote me.. Just get the pt I’m trying to make
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Protesters chanted “Free them all” and held signs with messages including “Full Rights for All Immigrants” and “Stop the Deportations.”
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This story has been upgraded to the live feed and is still unfolding. This is THE story since last night, turn on the news.
@Corlove,
This issue has also been playing a role in elections accross Europe. When I lived in Germany years ago there was an undercurrent and now it is really in the forefront. People in governments across the world are trying to figure out how to balance immigration policies.
Who do you think growing population of people are? And how do you believe if that population keeps growing how it would affect our nation. To whom would it affect, how, and why?
@Corlove13
Is homogenation good? The general theory is that immigrants tend to assimilate in custom & belief doesn’t always work out as projected.
There is a common threat of low birth rates among the U.S., Europe, and some Asian countries; can immigration balance what is needed without becoming a threat to national identity?
The Native American population of the United States is less than 1% of the total. In other words, more than 99% of the US population are immigrants or descendants of immigrants. So, how many immigrants should Trump (who is descended from immigrants) deport?
Corlove13, I got your point loud and clear—and now let me return the favor with one of my own: don’t confuse biblical resistance to idolatry with rebellion against just authority. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego weren’t defying Babylon’s immigration policy—they were refusing to worship a false god. There’s a Grand Canyon between civil disobedience for righteousness and using “love” as a smoke screen for lawlessness.
You ask, “Should we obey laws that go against love?” But here’s the real question: Who defines love—God, or our gut? Because 1 Corinthians 13 tells us love rejoices with the truth, not with feelings, slogans, or hashtags. And truth doesn’t change just because it makes us uncomfortable.
Yes, Moses broke Egyptian law to defend his people. But Moses wasn’t standing in favor of open borders—he was obeying a direct call from Yahweh to lead his nation out from under slavery and into covenantal identity. You’re not Moses, and the U.S. isn’t Pharaoh’s Egypt.
Let’s not weaponize “God is love” to sanctify illegal immigration. Love doesn’t erase law—it fulfills it (Romans 13:10). It calls for mercy and justice, grace and order. When we abandon law under the banner of “human decency,” we don’t get Eden—we get anarchy.
And while we’re on it—yes, some laws in history were evil. Jim Crow. Slavery. The Holocaust. But you know what made them evil? They violated God’s moral law, not your personal discomfort. Unless you’re ready to say that deporting someone who violated federal immigration statutes is equivalent to Nebuchadnezzar’s golden idol or Hitler’s gas chambers, then maybe—just maybe—this isn’t that deep.
Here’s the bottom line: obedience to God sometimes requires defiance—but not every time you dislike a policy. Let’s stop pretending that enforcing a border is a betrayal of divine love. It’s not loveless to say, “Come legally.” It’s not un-Christlike to say, “There’s a process.” And it’s not righteous to confuse rebellion with compassion.
Feel free to not quote me either. Just get this point: God’s love never contradicts God’s order.
—Sincere Seeker. Scripturally savage. Here for the Truth.
Benny, thank you for the most tired argument in the open-borders playbook: “We’re all immigrants, so no one has the right to enforce immigration law.” It sounds deep until you think for five seconds.
Yes, most Americans are descended from immigrants. Legal immigrants. People who came through Ellis Island with paperwork in hand, not trafficked over with fentanyl in their backpacks or guided by cartel coyotes. Comparing that to illegal entry in 2025 isn’t historical wisdom—it’s willful distortion.
Being the descendant of immigrants doesn’t mean you surrender your right to national borders. That’s like saying because your granddad walked into a church one day, you now have to leave the door open for every false teacher, thief, and heretic that wants to waltz in. It’s nonsensical.
Let’s not pretend the Founders wrote the Constitution with a footnote that said: “PS—Ignore all this if your great-great-grandpa came from Ireland.” Being a nation of immigrants doesn’t cancel out the rule of law. It proves that orderly immigration built this country—not a free-for-all.
And the Native American talking point? Please. Unless you’re ready to personally return your house, land, and Wi-Fi password to the nearest tribal council, spare me the guilt-rhetoric. It’s not theology. It’s not logic. It’s emotional blackmail wrapped in historical half-truths.
So how many immigrants should Trump deport? As many as are here illegally. Not based on ethnicity. Not based on fear. Based on law. Because without that, we don’t have a country—we have chaos.
You can be pro-immigrant and pro-border. You can love the stranger and love national sovereignty. What you can’t do is rewrite the Bible or the Constitution to fit a narrative that collapses the moment it meets reality.
Still speaking—even when ears are plugged.
—Sincere Seeker. Scripturally savage. Here for the Truth.
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I don’t know what you are talking about. I Always say don’t quote me..If I am using names I may misprint or a scripture off my head so I wouldn’t want anyone to pass it on.
I gave good examples. We either stand for something or fall for anything.