What do you envision heaven and hell to look like?

I’ve been thinking about how we picture heaven and hell…
because there are so many different depictions out there.

Is hell fire and red flames like we’ve always heard?
A ruined, apocalyptic city like in Legends of Tomorrow?
A cold wasteland like The Sandman?
Total darkness and eternal separation from God?

And heaven..
Is it endless white light?
Clouds?

Or do you picture something completely different when you think about heaven and hell?

Curious how everyone imagines it…
What does it look like to you?

Think with an Eastern, biblical frame of reference rather than a Western one, because doing so restrains speculative abstraction and keeps interpretation anchored in the concrete, covenantal thought world of Scripture itself.

Shalom.

J.

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Over the years, my views have changed. I don’t believe the ideas commonly preached in Conservative Churches is Scripturally accurate.

There is a great deal of metaphore used in Scripture to express an idea of what Heaven and Hell are and a lot of assumptions and declarations based on those Scriptures. The Christian ideas do not line up with the Jewish understanding, for one thing, and that is a poblem for me as it is radically different. And I think the book of Revelations is largely misunderstood as a future event while it was actually a coded message for believers of that time.

Anyone who studies historical events surrounding the formation of modern Christian thought can see the evolution of that thought. Such as the devil having the features of a goat (not Scripture) evolving from thw features of a Pagan god. Beliefs were added over time, expanded from what people already believed in those times.

I believe Heaven and Hell are Now, Eternal states of being. Hell is a mindset bent on revenge, the infliction of suffering, selfish grasping for wealth and pleasure at all cost, addiction, the fruit of which is repeated suffering. While Heaven is a focus on LOVE, virtue, valor, kindness etc, the fruit of which is Joy, Community, Healing, Wholeness.

I believe like draws like- that the life we build for ourselves by our focus draws those of similar intention. We plant seed to grow what we want. We choose to build on the sand or the rock. And we experience the consequences of those choices. We grow Heaven and Hell for ourselves, and we lean into it or lean out. We learn and grow.

I don’t believe life ends. I believe we keep going. I believe this because of the many spiritual experiences I have had. Dreams, visions, encounters, warnings, and blessings that have led me to believe that life is a multidiemnsional/ multifaceted thing that we do not fully have the capacity to understand or grasp or explain.

I also feel as if I have lived this life before. There are people I have crossed paths with too soon and have even made comments like, not yet or not this time, without consciously knowing those people would become important to me later. A deeper knowing that registers what my conscious mind barely touches but still leads me to speak or act as if the knowing is fully in my line of sight.. If that makes sense.

And I believe God gives us opportunities to learn and change course. Like the prodigal son that eventually will return home when he realizes what he left behind. I don’t believe the opportunity ever completely ends. I believe God makes a Way where there is no way, even if we don’t know it or see it from our vantage point.

The me today (this life) may not return home, but the me tomorrow will. And eventually we step back into Eternity where nothing dies. Death is replaced by Eternal Life when the transformation of the Holy Spirit is complete. But this is just my belief.

Think on all the things that Job lost in his trials, which God restored to him. The Scripture is vague enough where people argue, were his children brought back to life or were new ones born? But what if God could make the world as if the trauma we knew had never happened? The grief, the loss, the sin… if the original wound had never occurred, who would you have been? What life would have actually unfolded? How would reality be reborn?

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How we are defining “Heaven” here is going to make a world of difference.

Are we talking about the intermediate state or the ultimate state?

That is: Are we talking about our being present with the Lord “apart from the body”, the state between bodily death and bodily resurrection? Or are we talking about when, after the Lord returns and the dead are raised and God renews the whole of creation and we are experiencing the full glory of the future life in the Age to Come?

In some ways, in either way, a big part of how we are going to answer is “it’s impossible to say” and “we can’t know”. Since we are talking about realities far beyond us in our present as we “see through a glass dimly”.

Since you mention heaven in the same breath as “endless white light” and “clouds” I suppose we can restrict the conversation the intermediate state, rather than the ultimate state. Since that seems to be the focus.

Most of my thoughts about “Heaven” in the sense of the intermediate state are, perhaps quite expectedly, influenced by a long history of Christian art, music, and while I might fight against it it’s impossible to ignore how modern popular depictions of “Heaven” look. And we should, I think, strive against what I would call “Tom & Jerry” views of Heaven (think of old cartoons where a character goes to heaven, sometimes they walk up golden stairs or–for comedic reasons–a golden escalator; there’s puffy white clouds, the souls of people are floating around with small angel wings and wearing robes, strumming harps).

So my imagination has been saturated by artistic impressions, both serious and non-serious. That’s just an unavoidable fact due to the time and place I have grown up and been raised. Some of that artistic imagery can be helpful, depending on whether or not the point is to direct our attention to stronger theological truths beyond the mere imagery itself.

So my imagination definitely conjures up images based on the artistic impressions I’ve grown up seeing. But I don’t think that is what heaven will be like, or what it actually “looks” like.

If you asked me what I think heaven actually looks like I don’t think that is an answerable question. Not only because it’s something fundamentally beyond my ability to fathom; but in a way it’s almost an inherent contradiction when we think about it literally. Can something look like anything if we’re not talking about the physical properties of the material universe? Of photons reflecting off the surface of physical matter into photo-receptive bodily organs (eyes) which sends an electrical signal to my brain, which then interprets that as sight. I’m not saying we won’t “see” anything, perhaps we will–though we can’t call it seeing the way we understand seeing; perhaps a better way of saying it is perceiving/experiencing. But since we are talking about the intermediate state “apart from the body and present with the Lord” that experience will, again, be so fundamentally other than what we know right now. I have no idea how to perceive anything apart from the sensory input I get from my body–when it comes to sights, smells, touch, taste, sounds, etc. That’s the way God designed the body to work, it’s the only thing my brain has to work with.

It’s like asking someone to imagine a color they’ve never seen. Ask someone who has been blind from birth what “green” looks like, or someone who has been deaf from birth what the sound of a songbird is like. It’s simply not possible.

So when you ask me what it will be like to be in the presence of the Lord apart from the body, I can only say it is too much for me.

If I am asked what I imagine what life in the Age to Come will be like, I suspect in some ways there will be the very familiar. Since these old bones will be restored and made new, then I’ll have ears, eyes, etc. Since God is making new all of creation, I’ll see trees and animals, I’ll hear the sound of birds and the rustling of grass in the wind. But at the same time it will be brand new. What will it mean to see the glorified blue sky of the earth’s atmosphere with glorified resurrected eyes? I have no idea. So while here I believe we can speak of there being the familiar, and yet it will be entirely brand new and on as scale of beauty beyond anything we can even begin to imagine.

“But I know that my Redeemer lives, and in the end He will stand upon the earth. Even after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God. I will see Him for myself, my eyes will behold Him, and not as a stranger. How my heart yearns within me!” - Job 19:25-27

Jesus said no one had gone to heaven and heaven is for angels and GOD.

Hell is symbolic and no one except Satan will get thrown into flames.