What is the "Sin Nature?"

The sin nature is that aspect in humanity that makes us rebellious against God. When we speak of the sin nature, we refer to the fact that we have a natural inclination to sin; given the choice to do God’s will or our own, we will naturally choose to do our own thing.

Proof of the sin nature abounds. No one has to teach a child to lie or be selfish; rather, we go to great lengths to teach children to tell the truth and put others first. Sinful behavior comes naturally. The news is filled with tragic examples of mankind acting badly. Wherever people are, there is trouble. Charles Spurgeon said, “As the salt flavors every drop in the Atlantic, so does sin affect every atom of our nature. It is so sadly there, so abundantly there, that if you cannot detect it, you are deceived.”

The Bible explains the reason for the trouble. Humanity is sinful, not just in theory or in practice but by nature. Sin is part of the very fiber of our being. The Bible speaks of “sinful flesh” in Romans 8:3. It’s our “earthly nature” that produces the list of sins in Colossians 3:5. And Romans 6:6 speaks of “the body ruled by sin.” The flesh-and-blood existence we lead on this earth is shaped by our sinful, corrupt nature.

The sin nature is universal in humanity. All of us have a sinful nature, and it affects every part of us. This is the doctrine of total depravity, and it is biblical. All of us have gone astray (Isaiah 53:6). Paul admits that “the trouble is with me, for I am all too human, a slave to sin” (Romans 7:14). Paul was in his “sinful nature a slave to the law of sin” (Romans 7:25). Solomon concurs: “Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, / no one who does what is right and never sins” (Ecclesiastes 7:20). The apostle John perhaps puts it most bluntly: “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us” (1 John 1:8).

Even children have a sin nature. David rues the fact that he was born with sin already at work within him: “Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). Elsewhere, David states, “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).

Where did the sin nature come from? Scripture says that God created humans good and without a sinful nature: “God created man in His own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them” (Genesis 1:27). However, Genesis 3 records the disobedience of Adam and Eve. By that one action, sin entered into their nature. They were immediately stricken with a sense of shame and unfitness, and they hid from God’s presence (Genesis 3:8). When they had children, Adam’s image and likeness was passed along to his offspring (Genesis 5:3). The sin nature manifested itself early in the genealogy: the very first child born to Adam and Eve, Cain, became the very first murderer (Genesis 4:8).

From generation to generation, the sin nature was passed down to all of humanity: “Sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned” (Romans 5:12). This verse also presents the unsettling truth that the sin nature leads inexorably to death (see also Romans 6:23 and Ephesians 2:1).

Other consequences of the sin nature are hostility toward God and ignorance of His truth. Paul says, “The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God” (Romans 8:7–8). Also, “the person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit” (1 Corinthians 2:14).

There is only one Person in the history of the world who did not have a sin nature: Jesus Christ. His virgin birth allowed Him to enter our world while bypassing the curse passed down from Adam. Jesus then lived a sinless life of absolute perfection. He was “the Holy and Righteous One” (Acts 3:14) who “had no sin” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This allowed Jesus to be sacrificed on the cross as our perfect substitute, “a lamb without blemish or defect” (1 Peter 1:19). John Calvin puts it in perspective: “For certainly, Christ is much more powerful to save than Adam was to ruin.”

It is through Christ that we are born again. “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (John 3:6). When we are born of Adam, we inherit his sin nature; but when we are born again in Christ, we inherit a new nature: “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!” (2 Corinthians 5:17).

We don’t lose our sin nature once we receive Christ. The Bible says that sin remains in us and that a struggle with that old nature will continue as long as we are in this world. Paul bemoaned his own personal struggle in Romans 7:15–25. But we have help in the battle—divine help. The Spirit of God takes up residence in each believer and supplies the power we need to overcome the pull of the sin nature within us. “No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God” (1 John 3:9).

Through His finished work on the cross, Jesus satisfied God’s wrath against sin and provided believers with victory over their sin nature: “‘He himself bore our sins’ in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness” (1 Peter 2:24). In His resurrection, Jesus offers life to everyone bound by corrupt flesh. Those who are born again now have this command: “Count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus” (Romans 6:11).

J.

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Hebrew concepts:
יֵצֶר (yēṣer) – inclination, impulse, tendency.
לֵב (lēḇ) – the heart, the inner person.
עָוֹן (ʿāwōn) – iniquity, crookedness, guilt.

Greek concepts:
σάρξ (sarx) – flesh; often fallen humanity in Adam.
ἁμαρτία (hamartia) – sin, both acts and an enslaving power.
ὁ παλαιὸς ἄνθρωπος (ho palaios anthrōpos) – the old man, former identity under sin.
ἐπιθυμία (epithymia) – desire or craving that can become sinful.

Therefore, when Christians speak of the sin nature, they generally mean the inherited fallen condition of humanity that inclines people toward sin and stands opposed to God apart from the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit.
As seen in the article.

J.

I see brethren go around and around and around in circles trying to understand that ‘sin nature’ concept, which is actually one of men’s doctrines pushed into certain English Bible translations (New Living Translation; God’s Word Translation, etc.).

It comes from a different translation of Apostle Paul’s teaching in Romans 7…

Rom 7:17-18
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
KJV

Rom 7:22-23
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
KJV

Rom 7:25
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
KJV

Per Hebrews 4:12, God created us with a flesh body, a spirit and a soul. Elsewhere in God’s Word we are taught there is only two different realms of existence, this earthly realm which is made up of material matter, which is where our flesh comes from, and then the heavenly realm where God and the angels dwell, including where the abode of the wicked is which is called hell.

Our spirit and soul are of that ‘other’ dimension, that realm of Spirit which is not about material matter. The whole universe is part of this earthly realm we live in and involves matter. Per Apostle John in John 4, he said “God is a Spirit…”. That does not mean a Ghost or any such idea like some Hollywood horror movie. Spirit is just as real as physical matter; it’s just not made of the substance of material matter.

This is why Lord Jesus said in John 3:6, “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of The Spirit is spirit.” He was defining the two separate realms.

And per Paul in 2 Corinthians 5, he showed that we have (present tense) another body, not made with hands (i.e., not of material matter), from God, eternal in the heavens. And to be absent from the body (flesh) is to be present with The Lord.

Then an Old Testament Scripture many brethren miss, is Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 which tells us if our flesh dies, then a “silver cord” is loosed, and our flesh goes back to the earth where it came from, but our spirit (with soul) goes back to God Who gave it.

This means then, that our spirit and soul are attached together in that realm of Spirit. And God placed both together in a flesh body when we were conceived in our mother’s womb. And an invisible “silver cord” keeps our spirit/soul attached to our flesh body while alive on earth. This is why Lord Jesus said in Matthew 10:28 to not fear those who can kill our flesh but not our soul, but to fear Him Who can destroy both our body (spirit body) and soul in the lake of fire.

Thus the phrase “sin nature” cannot replace how Paul defined about the source of sin mainly being because of our flesh, and not our spirit with soul.

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Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Romans 5:19 For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous.

The above verses teach that the entire human race (except for Jesus Christ) was born with a sinful nature. We each inherited this sin nature from Adam when he sinned in the garden. As the federal head of all mankind, his guilt was imputed to all his seed — to both you and I. Some definitions are warranted here.

What is Federal Headship?
In Romans 5:12-21, Paul teaches that God deals covenantally with the human race under the concept called “Federalism.” Essentially, federalism or federal headship has to do with representation; that is, one person acting on behalf of another. The American legal system uses a similar concept called a “power of attorney,” which is a written authorization to allow someone to represent someone else for some legal matter.
Similarly, the entire human race may be summarized under the representation of two Adams:

(1) the first Adam in the garden is the federal head of the entire human race under the covenant of works (Gen. 1-2) and

(2) the second Adam, the Lord Jesus Christ (1 Cor 15:45, 47), is the federal head of all believers under the covenant of grace (Rom 5:12-21).

The entire human race is naturally born under the federal headship of the first Adam in the garden. Adam as the federal head of the human race corrupted all his seed. So, all humanity is collectively guilty and condemned before God. Every human is totally depraved and lost.

What is Imputed Sin?
Imputed sin deals with the fact that the guilt of our federal head — the first Adam — is credited not just to Adam himself, but also to all humanity (Rom. 5:15, 18, 19). This doesn’t mean we are personally guilty of Adam’s sin (we’re not) but that his sin was credited to our account or ledger. In this way all of us, except Christ, who was born of a virgin, are regarded as having sinned in the first Adam and share in his guilt.

Sin is a Choice
Because of Adam’s representation we each have a sinful nature. And because of our sinful natures we make individual choices to sin (cf. Psa. 58:3: Eccl. 9:3). However, no one is forcing us sin. We sin by choice. We do this on our own accord. And on the day of judgment when we stand before God each of us will be held accountable for what we have and have not done (Prov. 8:36; Ezek. 18:20).
So, it’s a universal fact that everyone (except Christ) sins (Rom. 3:1-18). Even Christians sin (cf. 1 John 1:8-10; 2:1). And absolutely none are saved by their own works (cf. Eph. 2:8-9; Tit. 3:5-6).

Only in Christ can one be forgiven. Just as the first Adam represented all humanity, Christ is the federal head of all believers. He is their representative, and his righteousness is imputed to them when they believe in him. In Christ we have life and have it more abundantly (John 10:10).

J.

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Yes, the Bible teaches all, except Christ (who was born of a virgin), were / are born as sinners.
This doctrine is sometimes called “total depravity” or “total inability.” Everyone of us has a sinful nature that affects every part of our being (Isa. 53:6; Rom. 3:23; 6:23; 7:14). In this state, none can please holy God (Rom. 3:10-18; 8:7-8).

All humanity, except Christ who was born of the Virgin Mary (Isa. 7:14; Matt. 1:23; Luke 1:31), is born with a sinful nature which was inherited from Adam (Rom. 5:12-19). “Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned” (Rom. 5:12). So, every one of us was affected by Adam’s sin. There are no exceptions; “one trespass led to condemnation for all men” (Rom. 5:18). We are all children of Adam (Acts 17:26), thus all share in the same condemnation.

We observe that everyone has a sin nature taught over and over again in Scripture:

Proverbs 22:15 Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him.

Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies. /p>

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?

So, by nature we are the children of wrath (Eph. 2:3). Because of our sinful nature and our very sinful and corrupt actions we deserve the wrath of holy God. We are the enemies of God (Rom. 5:10; Col. 1:21; Jas. 4:4). We can’t please God (Rom. 8:7-8). All people are by nature ‘foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another’ (Tit. 3:3). To put it another way, we are spiritually blind, deaf, dumb, having withered hands and crippled spiritual limbs (cf. Matt. 13:15). We are dead in trespasses and sin (Eph. 2:1). So, we lack any inherent spiritual good.

However, this total corruption does not mean we are as evil and bad as we could be. Everyone is not as bad as Judas, Stalin, Hitler, or Bin Laden. God’s common grace restrains the full expression of our human sinfulness. In common grace, God shows his compassion, goodness, and kindness to all his creatures (Psa. 145:9; Matt. 5:45; Luke 6:35; Acts 14:17). He exercises longsuffering / patience toward all mankind (Nah. 1:3). Every breath that the wicked take is an example of God’s loving mercy. In common grace, God kept Abimelech from touching Sarah, Abraham’s wife (Gen. 20:6). God also restrained David from taking revenge on Nabal (1 Sam. 25:14, 26). As David stated, “For as surely as the LORD, the God of Israel, lives, who has restrained me from hurting you, unless you had hurried and come to meet me, truly by morning there had not been left to Nabal so much as one male” (1 Sam. 25:34).

This brief examination of total depravity above reveals the reason why one must be born again (John 3:1-8). All of us were born in Adam and to please God and no longer be his enemy (Rom. 5:1, 9) one must be born into God’s family where we are given a new nature that seeks after God (John 1:12-13). As Paul wrote, “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come” (2 Cor. 5:17; cf. Ezek. 11:19; 18:31; 36:26; Jer. 24:7; 2 Cor. 3:3; Gal. 6:15). Have you been born again? (John 3:3, 5).

Do you understand the “sin nature” @DavyP?

J.

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While the concept of human depravity is an historic Christian doctrine, it’s also a condition I recognized as an atheist.

All Christians Ought to Acknowledge “Human Depravity” Theologically
Aaron correctly identified the theological importance of the doctrine for both Calvinists and Arminianists. I recently received an email from a Christian who loved our work online, but was concerned about prior articles describing the doctrine of Human Depravity:

“My one gentle criticism is that in your article on human depravity, there is no need to go into the whole TULIP controversy, Arminian vs. Calvinist. This subject is unnecessary to your basic mission, reaching the lost for Jesus and building the faith and ability of others to utilize insightful evidences. In fact, going into this subject will likely be divisive.”

That’s why I was grateful when Aaron correctly identified this doctrine as a common feature of both Calvinism and Arminianism. He cited the work of R.C. Sproul:

“Arminius was emphatic in his rejection of Pelagianism, particularly with respect to the fall of Adam. The fall leaves man in a ruined state, under the dominion of sin. Arminius declares: ‘In this state, the Free Will of man towards the True Good is not only wounded, maimed, infirm, bent, and weakened [attenuatem]; but it is also imprisoned [captivatum], destroyed and lost. And its powers are not only debilitated and useless unless they be assisted by grace, but it has no powers whatever except such as are excited by Divine grace…’” (from R.C. Sproul’s Willing to Believe: The Controversy Over Free Will)

Aaron’s article demonstrates Arminius (and other historic Arminians like John Wesley) accepted the concept of “Total Depravity”. The depravity of humans is a theological reality that ought not divide the church. As Aaron writes, it is simply “the sad state… into which we are born: dead in trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1-2), by nature children of wrath (Eph. 2:3) and enemies of God (Rom. 5:10), darkened in understanding, excluded from the life of God, ignorant, and hard of heart (Eph. 4:18), in bondage to sin (John 8:34), unable to please God (Rom. 8:8), unable to accept and understand the things of God (1 Cor. 2:14), and unable to come to God in our own power (John 6:44).”

All Humans Ought to Recognize “Human Depravity” Experientially
But even without the teaching of Scripture, “Human Depravity” ought to be obvious to all of us. Aaron provided several lines of empirical evidence to support the doctrine, including our observations of young children who have not yet been trained by their parents, the historic evil committed by humankind, and psychological evidence from studies such as the Stanley Milgram experiment and the work of Christopher R. Browning in his book, Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland. If we are honest about our own experience in the world, we will recognize the fallen nature of humans, even before opening the pages of our Bibles.

J.

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The sin nature is that aspect in humanity that makes us rebellious against God. When we speak of the sin nature, we refer to the fact that we have a natural inclination to sin; given the choice to do God’s will or our own, we will naturally choose to do our own thing.

Proof of the sin nature abounds. No one has to teach a child to lie or be selfish; rather, we go to great lengths to teach children to tell the truth and put others first. Sinful behavior comes naturally. The news is filled with tragic examples of mankind acting badly. Wherever people are, there is trouble. Charles Spurgeon said, “As the salt flavors every drop in the Atlantic, so does sin affect every atom of our nature. It is so sadly there, so abundantly there, that if you cannot detect it, you are deceived.”

The Bible explains the reason for the trouble. Humanity is sinful, not just in theory or in practice but by nature. Sin is part of the very fiber of our being. The Bible speaks of “sinful flesh” in Romans 8:3. It’s our “earthly nature” that produces the list of sins in Colossians 3:5. And Romans 6:6 speaks of “the body ruled by sin.” The flesh-and-blood existence we lead on this earth is shaped by our sinful, corrupt nature.

The sin nature is universal in humanity. All of us have a sinful nature, and it affects every part of us. This is the doctrine of total depravity, and it is biblical. All of us have gone astray (Isaiah 53:6). Paul admits that “the trouble is with me, for I am all too human, a slave to sin” (Romans 7:14). Paul was in his “sinful nature a slave to the law of sin” (Romans 7:25). Solomon concurs: “Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, / no one who does what is right and never sins” (Ecclesiastes 7:20). The apostle John perhaps puts it most bluntly: “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us” (1 John 1:8).

Even children have a sin nature. David rues the fact that he was born with sin already at work within him: “Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). Elsewhere, David states, “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).

Where did the sin nature come from? Scripture says that God created humans good and without a sinful nature: “God created man in His own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them” (Genesis 1:27). However, Genesis 3 records the disobedience of Adam and Eve. By that one action, sin entered into their nature. They were immediately stricken with a sense of shame and unfitness, and they hid from God’s presence (Genesis 3:8). When they had children, Adam’s image and likeness was passed along to his offspring (Genesis 5:3). The sin nature manifested itself early in the genealogy: the very first child born to Adam and Eve, Cain, became the very first murderer (Genesis 4:8).

From generation to generation, the sin nature was passed down to all of humanity: “Sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned” (Romans 5:12). This verse also presents the unsettling truth that the sin nature leads inexorably to death (see also Romans 6:23 and Ephesians 2:1).

Other consequences of the sin nature are hostility toward God and ignorance of His truth. Paul says, “The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God” (Romans 8:7–8). Also, “the person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit” (1 Corinthians 2:14).

There is only one Person in the history of the world who did not have a sin nature: Jesus Christ. His virgin birth allowed Him to enter our world while bypassing the curse passed down from Adam. Jesus then lived a sinless life of absolute perfection. He was “the Holy and Righteous One” (Acts 3:14) who “had no sin” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This allowed Jesus to be sacrificed on the cross as our perfect substitute, “a lamb without blemish or defect” (1 Peter 1:19). John Calvin puts it in perspective: “For certainly, Christ is much more powerful to save than Adam was to ruin.”

It is through Christ that we are born again. “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (John 3:6). When we are born of Adam, we inherit his sin nature; but when we are born again in Christ, we inherit a new nature: “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!” (2 Corinthians 5:17).

We don’t lose our sin nature once we receive Christ. The Bible says that sin remains in us and that a struggle with that old nature will continue as long as we are in this world. Paul bemoaned his own personal struggle in Romans 7:15–25. But we have help in the battle—divine help. The Spirit of God takes up residence in each believer and supplies the power we need to overcome the pull of the sin nature within us. “No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God” (1 John 3:9). God’s ultimate plan for us is total sanctification when we see Christ (1 Thessalonians 3:13; 1 John 3:2).

Through His finished work on the cross, Jesus satisfied God’s wrath against sin and provided believers with victory over their sin nature: “‘He himself bore our sins’ in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness” (1 Peter 2:24). In His resurrection, Jesus offers life to everyone bound by corrupt flesh. Those who are born again now have this command: “Count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus” (Romans 6:11).

Still not agreeing @DavyP?

J.

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Yes, I understand all that. That still does not change what God’s Word teaches about how He created us with a spirit, and a soul, and a flesh body, and that our flesh and spirit/soul are independent of each other.

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You’d first have to understand what I revealed from God’s Word to understand whether I agree with men’s philosophical ‘terms’… like “sin nature”.

Paul meant the following both spiritually, and… literally…

Rom 6:6-7
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
KJV

How can one who is dead (literally) be free from sin?

It’s because like Paul taught in Romans 7, the sin nature has to do with our FLESH. Our “inward man” wants to follow God and not sin, and herein lay the problem with man’s philosophical terms like ‘sin nature’.

The label ‘sin nature’ DOES NOT DISTINGUISH between our flesh and our spirit with soul. Apostle Paul was emphatic about the difference though, per Romans 7.

So when are you all going to start following what Apostle Paul said?

Rom 7:18-25
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
KJV

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Love the AMP here…

Jhn_16:9 about sin [and the true nature of it], because they do not believe in Me [and My message];

Rom_6:6 We know that our old self [our human nature without the Holy Spirit] was nailed to the cross with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin.

Rom_7:17 So now [if that is the case, then] it is no longer I who do it [the disobedient thing which I despise], but the sin [nature] which lives in me.

Rom_7:20 But if I am doing the very thing I do not want to do, I am no longer the one doing it [that is, it is not me that acts], but the sin [nature] which lives in me.

Rom_7:25 Thanks be to God [for my deliverance] through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind serve the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh [my human nature, my worldliness, my sinful capacity–I serve] the law of sin.

Rom_8:3 For what the Law could not do [that is, overcome sin and remove its penalty, its power] being weakened by the flesh [man’s nature without the Holy Spirit], God did: He sent His own Son in the likeness of sinful man as an offering for sin. And He condemned sin in the flesh [subdued it and overcame it in the person of His own Son], [Lev_7:37]

Heb_2:14 Therefore, since [these His] children share in flesh and blood [the physical nature of mankind], He Himself in a similar manner also shared in the same [physical nature, but without sin], so that through [experiencing] death He might make powerless (ineffective, impotent) him who had the power of death–that is, the devil–

Jas_3:2 For we all stumble and sin in many ways. If anyone does not stumble in what he says [never saying the wrong thing], he is a perfect man [fully developed in character, without serious flaws], able to bridle his whole body and rein in his entire nature [taming his human faults and weaknesses].

2Pe_2:10 and especially those who indulge in the corrupt passions of the sin nature, and despise authority. Presumptuous and reckless, self-willed and arrogant [creatures, despising the majesty of the Lord], they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties,

1Jn_3:5 You know that He appeared [in visible form as a man] in order to take away sins; and in Him there is [absolutely] no sin [for He has neither the sin nature nor has He committed sin or acts worthy of blame].

Jhn_8:21 The One from Above
¶ Later on, he told them again, “I am going away, and you will look for me, but you will die in your sin. [I.e. their sinful nature] You cannot come where I am going.”

Rom_7:25 Thank God through Jesus the Messiah, [Or Christ] our Lord, because with my mind I myself can serve the Law of God, even while with my human nature [Lit. my flesh] I serve the law of sin.

Rom_7:13 Then did what was meant for my good prove fatal to me? Never! It was sin; sin resulted in death for me by making use of this good thing. This was how sin was to be revealed in its true nature; it was to use the command to become sinful in the extreme.

Rom_8:3 For what the Torah was unable to do in that it was weak through the basar (fallen human nature under Chet Kadmon and without hitkhadshut renewal and regeneration by the Ruach Hakodesh), G-d sent his own Ben HaElohim [Moshiach] in the very demut (likeness) of the basar of sinful humanity and as a chattat (sin offering, sin atoning sacrifice, 2C 5:21) and both pronounced and effected a sentence of death on HaChet baBasar (Sin in the Flesh, in the fallen old humanity)

Rom_7:23 but I see another power operating in my lower nature in conflict with the power operated by my reason, which makes me a prisoner to the power of sin which is operating in my lower nature.

Rom_7:25 Thank God! It has been done through Jesus Christ our Lord! So in my higher nature I am a slave to the law of God, but in my lower nature, to the law of sin.

Rom_8:3 For though the law could not do it, because it was made helpless through our lower nature, yet God, by sending His own Son in a body similar to that of our lower nature, and as a sacrifice for sin, passed sentence upon sin through His body,

However, I would grant you this…

The Greek noun φύσις (physis), meaning “nature,” appears in several New Testament passages. In Romans 2:14, Paul says that Gentiles do “by nature” (φύσει) the things contained in the Law. In Romans 2:27, he speaks of those who are circumcised “by nature” (ἐκ φύσεως). In Romans 11:21 and 11:24, Paul repeatedly uses φύσις in discussing branches that are grafted “according to nature” (κατὰ φύσιν) or “contrary to nature” (παρὰ φύσιν). In 1 Corinthians 11:14, Paul asks, “Does not even nature itself (ἡ φύσις αὐτή) teach you…?” In Galatians 2:15, he writes, “We who are Jews by nature (φύσει Ἰουδαῖοι).” In Galatians 4:8, he refers to false gods as those which “by nature (φύσει) are not gods.” In Ephesians 2:3, Paul states that we were “children by nature of wrath” (τέκνα φύσει ὀργῆς). In James 3:7, we find “the nature of beasts” (φύσις θηρίων). In 2 Peter 1:4, believers become “partakers of the divine nature” (θείας κοινωνοὶ φύσεως). Finally, in Jude 10, the ungodly act according to what they understand “naturally” (φυσικῶς).

What is particularly noteworthy is that in passages often cited to support the doctrine of a “sin nature” such as Romans 6:6, Romans 7:17-25, and Romans 8:3 Paul does not use φύσις (physis). Instead, he uses terms such as σάρξ (sarx, “flesh”), ἁμαρτία (hamartia, “sin”), and σῶμα (sōma, “body”). Therefore, the phrase “sin nature” is not a direct translation of the Greek text in those passages but rather a theological interpretation of Paul’s teaching concerning the flesh and indwelling sin.

Would you agree with me?

J.

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φύσις (fusis) nature (G5449)
(Noun Genitive Singular Feminine)

This word occurs about 14 x
Meaning
nature; natural state of being or characteristics
nature;
natural state of being or characteristics
essence, Gal. 4:8; native condition, birth, Rom. 2:27; 11:21, 24;
Gal. 2:15; Eph. 2:3; native species, kind, Jas. 3:7; nature, natural frame, 2Pet. 1:4; nature, native instinct, Rom. 2:14; 1Cor. 11:14; nature, prescribed course of nature, Rom. 1:26*

Word analysis
ἁμαρτία (hamartia) sin (G0266)
(Noun Genitive Plural Feminine)

This word occurs about 172 x
Meaning
sin, wrongdoing; usually any act contrary to the will and law of God
sin, wrongdoing;
usually any act contrary to the will and law of God
error;
offence, sin, wrongdoing Mt. 1:21;
a principle or cause of sin, Rom. 7:7; proneness to sin, sinful propensity, Rom. 7:17, 20;
guilt or imputation of sin, Jn. 9:41; Heb. 9:26; a guilty subject, sin-offering, expiatory victim, 2Cor. 5:21

(παλαιός, palaiós, “old,” “ancient”): A term thrice used by Paul (Rom_6:6; Eph_4:22; Col_3:9) to signify the unrenewed man, the natural man in the corruption of sin, i.e. sinful human nature before conversion and regeneration. It is theologically synonymous with “flesh” (Rom_8:3-9), which stands, not for bodily organism, but, for the whole nature of man (body and soul) turned away from God and devoted to self and earthly things.
The old man is “in the flesh”; the new man “in the Spirit.” In the former “the works of the flesh” (Gal_5:19-21) are manifest; in the latter “the fruit of the Spirit” (Gal_5:22, Gal_5:23). One is “corrupt according to the deceitful lusts”; the other “created in righteousness and true holiness” (Eph_4:22-24 the King James Version). See also MAN, NATURAL; MAN, NEW.

J.

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If you are asking me do I agree with your last paragraph above, then Yes, I agree with that.

The next question then is… why do those who wrongly apply “sin nature” theology to those places where Apostle Paul was specific that he was speaking of the flesh body?

Any time theology creates a situation that can raise doubt as to its meaning, that is a crack to allow Satan’s twisting of Bible Scripture. Those who do not really believe beyond anything in this physical material world only have their flesh to rely upon, so they don’t want to hear that our flesh is only temporary and is only of this present world. Satan wants us to think like that too.

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I have no problem with the “sin nature/sinful propensities” and ev/eis Messiah we are NOT sinless.

J.

How do you define the word “flesh” according to the Bible’s own meaning, @DavyP? I haven’t done a word study, but I don’t think it merely means our physical body. What does it mean the way the Bible uses it? It sounds to me that you think it means our physical muscles and bones; I think it means more than that. I’m curious about your definition and how you arrived at it.

Our “sin nature” is not some malicious contaminant we are born with. It is simply the result of being born with no connection to God. As a result we all seek after self. The bible calls this the flesh.

Oh, I disagree @timf

The term original sin refers to Adam’s sin of disobedience in eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and its effects upon the rest of the human race. Original sin can be defined as “the moral corruption we possess as a consequence of Adam’s sin, resulting in a sinful disposition manifesting itself in habitually sinful behavior.” The doctrine of original sin focuses particularly on its effect on our internal nature and our standing before God. There are three main views that deal with that effect:

Pelagianism: This view says that Adam’s sin had no effect upon the souls of his descendants other than that he provided a sinful example. Adam’s example has influenced those who followed him to also sin. But, according to this view, man has the ability to stop sinning if he simply chooses to. Pelagianism runs contrary to a number of passages that indicate man is hopelessly enslaved by his sins (apart from God’s intervention) and that his good works are “dead” or worthless in meriting God’s favor (Ephesians 2:1–2; Matthew 15:18–19; Romans 7:23; Hebrews 6:1; 9:14).

Arminianism: Arminians believe Adam’s original sin has resulted in the rest of mankind inheriting a corrupt, sinful nature, which causes us to sin in the same way that a cat’s nature causes it to meow—it comes naturally. According to this view, man cannot stop sinning on his own; God’s supernatural, enabling grace, called prevenient grace, in conjunction with the gospel, allows that person to choose to exercise faith in Christ. The teaching of prevenient grace is not explicitly found in Scripture.

Calvinism: The Calvinistic doctrine of original sin states that Adam’s sin has resulted not only in our having a sin nature, but also in our incurring guilt before God for which we deserve punishment. Being conceived with original sin upon us (Psalm 51:5) results in our inheriting a sin nature so wicked that Jeremiah 17:9 describes the human heart as “deceitful above all things and beyond cure.” Not only was Adam found guilty because he sinned, but his sin was imputed to us, making us guilty and deserving of his punishment (death) as well (Romans 5:12, 19). There are two views as to why Adam’s sin should be imputed to us. The first view states that the human race was within Adam in seed form; thus, when Adam sinned, we sinned in him. This is similar to the biblical teaching that Levi (a descendant of Abraham) paid tithes to Melchizedek in Abraham (Genesis 14:20; Hebrews 7:4–9), even though Levi was not born until hundreds of years later. The other main view is that Adam served as our representative, and so, when he sinned, we were found guilty as well.

Both the Arminian and Calvinistic views teach original sin and see individuals as unable to overcome sin apart from the power of the Holy Spirit. Most all Calvinists also teach imputed sin; some Arminians deny imputation of sin, and others believe that Christ’s death has negated the effects of imputation.

The fact of original sin means that we cannot please God on our own. No matter how many “good deeds” we do, we still commit sin**, and we still have the problem of a corrupt nature within.** We must have Christ; we must be born again (John 3:3). God deals with the effects of original sin in our hearts through the process of sanctification. As John Piper puts it, “The problem of our moral defilement and habitual sinning is solved by his purifying us by the work of Spirit” (“Adam, Christ, and Justification: Part IV,” preached 8/20/2000).

J.

John Knox (c. 1510–1572) was a Scottish clergyman, a leader of the Protestant Reformation, and a man who is considered to be the founder of the Presbyterian denomination in Scotland. Knox has been admired by contemporary theologians as someone who personified a zeal for God and a commitment to the truth of Scripture and holy living. Yet, as he grew close to death, this saint of God admitted his own personal battle with the sin nature he inherited from Adam (Romans 5:12). Knox said, “I know how hard the battle is between the flesh and the spirit under the heavy cross of affliction, when no worldly defense but present death doth appear. I know the grudging and murmuring complaints of the flesh…"

Knox’s statement sounds remarkably like that of the apostle Paul who openly acknowledged a personal struggle with his sin nature: “For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death?” (Romans 7:14-24).

Paul states in his letter to the Romans that there was something “in the members” of his body that he calls “my flesh,” which produced difficulty in his Christian life and made him a prisoner of sin. Martin Luther, in his preface to the book of Romans, commented on Paul’s use of “flesh” by saying, “Thou must not understand ‘flesh,’ therefore, as though that only were ‘flesh’ which is connected with unchastity, but St. Paul uses ‘flesh’ of the whole man, body, and soul, reason, and all his faculties included, because all that is in him longs and strives after the flesh.” Luther’s comments point out that “flesh” equates to affections and desires that run contrary to God, not only in the area of sexual activity, but in every area of life.

To get a solid understanding of the term “flesh” requires examining its usage and definition in Scripture, how it manifests in the life of both believers and unbelievers, the consequences it produces, and how it can ultimately be overcome.

A Definition of the “Flesh”
The Greek word for “flesh” in the New Testament is sarx, a term that can often in Scripture refer to the physical body. However, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature describes the word this way: “the physical body as functioning entity; in Paul’s thought esp., all parts of the body constitute a totality known as flesh, which is dominated by sin to such a degree that wherever flesh is, all forms of sin are likewise present, and no good thing can live.”

The Bible makes it clear that humanity did not start out this way. The book of Genesis says that humankind was originally created good and perfect: “Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness’ . . . God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them” (Genesis 1:26-27). Because God is perfect, and because an effect always represents its cause in essence [that is, a totally good God can only create good things, or as Jesus said, “A good tree cannot produce bad fruit” (Matthew 7:18)], both Adam and Eve were created good and without sin. But, when Adam and Eve sinned, their nature was corrupted, and that nature was passed along to their offspring: “When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth” (Genesis 5:3, emphasis added).

The fact of the sin nature is taught in many places in Scripture, such as David’s declaration, "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). David does not mean he was the product of an adulterous affair, but that his parents passed along a sin nature to him. In theology, this is sometimes called the “Traducian” (from the Latin term meaning “from a branch”) view of human nature The Traducian view is that a person’s soul is created via his parents, with the child inheriting their fallen nature in the process.

J.

I’m just following what God’s Word says. Word study won’t get you there. Here are the Bible Scriptures that give specific definitions and meanings about it:

Hebrews 4:12 - God made us with 3 independent parts. Our “joints and marrow” is about the flesh body only.

Matthew 10:28 - Jesus showed if our flesh body is killed, it does not kill our soul.

2 Corinthians 5 - Paul showed we have, in the present tense, another body not made with hands, eternal in the heavens from God. And if our flesh tabernacle were sudden dissolved, we have that other body. He didn’t say it, but he was pointing to our ‘spirit’ which is actually about the “image of the heavenly” he also taught in 1 Corinthians 15. We have that other spirit body dwelling inside our flesh body.

Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 – reveals our flesh body and spirit as independent separate operations. A “silver cord” is mentioned that if “loosed” at death of our flesh body, our flesh then goes back to the earth where it came from, but our ‘spirit’ goes back to God Who gave it. Because of what Jesus showed in Matt.10 about the ‘soul’, it has to mean our ‘spirit’ and ‘soul’ are attached to each other, both being of the heavenly order.

John 3:6 – Lord Jesus showed that which is born of the flesh is flesh, but that which is born of The Spirit is spirit. They are independent of each other is what He showed by that.

Hebrews 11:3 – by The Word of God the worlds were framed, so that what we see (material matter) was not created by what does appear (material creation). This is another verse confirming the existence of that other realm of Spirit that is independent of this material world. Man’s law of thermodynamics that matter cannot be created nor destroyed confirms this verse and the fact that our earthly material dimension was created by God Who is a Spirit and from another dimension that is not material matter.

I don’t claim to be an expert, but I worry the concept of “sin nature” allows us to blame sin on someone else rather than ourselves.

I am rather uncomfortable with the phrase “sin nature” as it implies that sin itself is a “nature”. I think, biblically, what we see is that human nature, because of the old man/Adam, is sinful. Man does not have a sin nature, but a sinful nature. The nature, the disposition, the inherited guilt and/or concupiscence of Adam.

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