Why are Christians obsessed with the crusades?

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I saw a video on Instagram the other day that a Christian man posted the other day. It flashed between images of Jesus and AI generated crusader pictures. The message he was trying to send was probably I love Jesus and I fight for Christian culture. But the message it gave me was I love Jesus and I want Muslims to die an go to hell.

It’s not just that. I’ve seen many Christians have crusaders as their profile pics online. Also in post about Muslims in USA or Europe I’ve seen comments about having another crusade or other extremist posts like feeding them pork or blowing them up. And when I click on their profiles I see pictures of Bible verses and Jesus.

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There is that magic word again that gets posts flagged. Cl—. (sigh) Now to my response to what you are saying.

Now, do I think some are a bit ah, extreme? Maybe. Do I see a problem in the desire to no longer remain silent as a religion driven by hate, pedophilia, and murder, makes its way into the free world with a verbalized goal of enacting Sharia law and forcing everyone to convert or die? Yes. I say it is more than time.

“Christianity,” if you will, should be defending women, protecting children, and attempting to share the gospel with them. Never bowing to them and accepting Islam as equal to Christ. It is not.

Oh, and without Jesus as their cornerstone, and He is not, they are already going to hell.

My advice is simple, if Muslims do not like the free world, do not go there. If you did, do not expect them to change for you, assimilate, or leave. Pretty simple.
Peter

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What is the flagged word?

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I haven’t seen this at all, though I suppose it does exist. Any mention of the crusaders has come from non believers and it’s their defense for not taking up the gospel. They point to the history of the church and certain current pastors to defame Christianity. You really don’t want to get into a debate with them on this point. A lot of it is true.
So I tell them I’m not talking about the church or people who claim to be Christians. I’m telling them about Jesus; who He is and what He’s done.

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I do not know if it will flag mine, but the word was “Click”
Peter

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Hasn’t it been centuries since there was a crusade?

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Well they call them terrorists now. The prophets are saying that sharia law will be instituted in the US. Boy oh boy wont American women just love that.

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So will the Gays, and Trans. You know how they always protest against Christ, but for Islam. Good luck with that.
Peter

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I hear you Brother! They chop off gays heads over there is what I heard, wow.

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The historical Crusades were deeply problematic since they conflated Christianity with political power and often resorted to violence to achieve spiritual outcomes. This has been a problem in almost every century since to some extent. It’s antithetical to Jesus’ message that his kingdom is not of this world and was not ushered in through political power, but through repentance and transformation of the heart.

I haven’t really seen what you are referring to, but I would say that those people have missed the point of Jesus’ message.

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I appreciate DaughterOfEve24’s point that Jesus’ kingdom is not advanced through force or political power. History shows that whenever Christianity becomes closely tied to power, it can lose sight of Christ’s example of humility, love, and service.

I also think it’s important to distinguish between the actions of people throughout history and the teachings of Jesus Himself. Christians have not always lived up to Christ’s example, but that doesn’t change what He taught about loving our neighbors and even our enemies.

For me, studying history should make us more humble. It reminds us that every generation needs to examine whether we are truly reflecting Christ’s character.

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I believe many of us (and sometimes even myself) want to use Old Testament solutions for our problems…

**Matthew 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;45 **That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

I seen that happening in a church we formerly attended- They cheered, and praised God for what they seen as “His side winning” in the current Middle East issues, while I see in The Word, that God is not willing that anyone should perish (2Peter 3:9)

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Because the crusaders went to Jerusalem and translated the Bible, dude. No crusades, no Bible.

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Interesting. Please supply your historical evidence for this amazing peace of fiction.

The medevil church already had the latin bible translated by Jerome in around 388 ad.
The crusades started by pope Urban in 1095 and lasted until 1291.
John Wytcliffe translated the latin vulgate New Testament into english around 1384.
William Tyndale translated the bible from the Greek and it was in circulation by 1526.
His work is the basis for the Authorised version of the bible..

from this short historical account you can see why I find your claim to be fiction.

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The crusades began before that. You’re forgetting that when Mohammed invaded Spain in 611AD, local resistance already existed. It just took a while for the different European leaders who knew of trouble in Jerusalem during the times of Jonah, (aka the time of the Trojan wars), to collect together and push the Saracens back to Egypt and the Sinai desert. :desert: while it’s true that Northern Europe, including Britain and Germany, already had substantial parts of the mosaic writings in their possession at the time of the crucifixion and traded with Israel over the Mediterranean and through the straits of Gibraltar, the Bible was not finished in English translation until the outset of Richard the firsts crusade in particular. People don’t always understand that the Bible wasn’t translated out of Latin in Rome in the fifteen hundreds, that was something else, it was already in the English of its time, and missing on its way back to London with James, who was murdered by corrupt members of his army in apostate Rome. The crusades are quite a bit more complicated than they sound. In real exactitude, only Hebrews had a scripture in their language until Aristotle discovered the Ten Commandments in Solomon’s court during the times of Ezekiel and Jeremiah, his interest in mathematics was founded on the decimal number ten (of commandments), as well as the mosaic book of numbers, which details the assault on canna at the time Joshua and Caleb assaulted Jericho.

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I was going to let @Who-me or anyone else respond to this. They still can, of course; however, what did we just read? What we are reading is a classic example of ahistorical “fringe history.” A mixture of pseudohistory, timeline confusion, extreme chronological errors, and outright historical fiction presented as fact.

It reads like a stream-of-consciousness internet comment where @anon29734630 has mashed together real historical names, places, and biblical events without regard for actual dates, geography, or recorded history. Here is a breakdown of why this text is factually incorrect across almost every claim it makes:

The Trojan War vs. Jonah: The Trojan War occurred during the Late Bronze Age (c. 1200 BC). The prophet Jonah lived in the 8th century BC (c. 750 BC). Or roughly 450 years later. Mohammed & Spain? Prophet Muhammad lived from 570 to 632 AD and never went to Spain. The Islamic Umayyad conquest of Hispania began in 711 AD under Tariq ibn Ziyad, long after Muhammad’s death. Not 611 AD.

Aristotle, Solomon, Ezekiel, and Jeremiah?

King Solomon reigned around 970–931 BC. Jeremiah and Ezekiel lived during the Babylonian Exile in the 6th century BC (c. 600–550 BC). Aristotle lived in Greece in the 4th century BC (384–322 BC). This is centuries after Solomon, Ezekiel, and Jeremiah. Aristotle never visited Solomon’s court (Solomon had been dead for 500 years).

Then we get into myths about language, translation, and Scripture. English Didn’t Exist Yet. Old English (Anglo-Saxon) only began to form around the 5th century AD. Modern/Middle English did not exist during the time of the Bible or the ancient Levant. The Bible in English during the Crusades? The Crusades occurred between 1095 and 1291 AD. John Wycliffe produced the first major translation of the Bible into Early Middle English in the 1380s (long after King Richard I died in 1199).

King James I commissioned and authorized the King James Version in 1604 (published 1611). He died of natural causes at his estate in Hertfordshire, England, in 1625. He was never murdered by corrupt soldiers in Rome. The Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek (the Septuagint) in the 3rd–2nd centuries BC in Alexandria, Egypt. The New Testament was written originally in Koine Greek, not Hebrew.

Then we have these bizarre historical & mathematical claims. Aristotle and the Decimal System? Aristotle did not base his mathematics on the Ten Commandments. The base-10 number system developed naturally in many cultures worldwide (likely because humans have ten fingers), and ancient Greek mathematics leaned heavily on geometry, influenced by Egyptian and Babylonian traditions.

There is zero archaeological or historical evidence that Northern European tribes possessed Hebrew/Mosaic scripts prior to or during the 1st century AD. Christianity and its scriptures spread to Britain primarily through Roman trade, soldiers, and missionaries from the 1st to 6th centuries AD. If you have any proof otherwise, we would love to see it.

Be blessed,

Peter

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As asked earlier please supply historical evidence or links that substantiate your fantastic claims.