You said “I certainly know I am not alone. Angels and spirits are never quite so far away. Though not many can see them or are aware of their presence. And I myself barely catch a glimpse except now and then, if ever. And sometimes, once in a long while, they say hello. All of which makes me just a little nervous when I use the Loo.” I am both confused and intrigued by your comment. What do you mean? Where are you getting this from?
@TruthSeek That bit of conversation was just between me and (Hungry). I will not be expounding further. It is not meant for you, so don’t worry about it. Just pretend it is crazy talk, like everything else I write.
I can understand that. First let us go to the holy book. When I read stuff or am asked a question for some reason a story out of the bible pops into my head. So when I read your comment the story of Moses, Aaron, And others in the bible came to mind. So Moses went thru all he did And did not make it to the promised land. Does that mean he went to heaven? I dont think so. By striking the rock twice that was a bad thing. Idk what version you read but I’ve read that he died. Then he was gathered to his people. In my father’s house there are many mansions. So it is written. So what if when you die you just go to your family mansion. Would this be heaven?
@Hungry , say the name, and they appear, eh Hungry?
What do you make of this passage?
Now after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John his brother, led them up on a high mountain by themselves; and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light. And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. Then Peter answered and said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, let us make here three tabernacles: one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah.” While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!” (Matthew 17:1-5)
Would an unsaved Moses show up on the mountain with Jesus?
KP
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I never said unsaved. but here is a question for you? how was he saved if he did not have jesus name by wich all me are saved
Interesting, to mix conversations. But if jesus said my name and said come here. could I not appear with him in the sky with him no matter where I was at.
I intrepreted you saying:
…as meaning you think He was unsaved, since saved folks go to heaven and unsaved folks don’t. Maybe you can explain what you mean by your statement for me more clearly.
Then you said:
I’m not sure if you are asking this question because you don’t know the answer, or for some other reason known only to yourself.
How’ bout this, you answer my question first, and then I’ll answer your question, if you still need me to.
Does that seem reasonable?
Hint: I have previously given the answer to your question in post 217.
Nice talking to you.
KP
That is a good question. Would Christ command you to do something and deny you the free will to say no or turn away? Does free will cease to be if God makes a command? Would God ever wipe free will away? If He was actually Willing to allow even Heaven itself to be ripped apart by disagreement?
Though Christ certainly had power over demons, to cast them out and away, and to force them to speak and say their name. But did He ever do this when they were not already in some form of violation, where a boundary had been crossed, when they themselves had gained influence over the will of another and were exerting it?
And what is the difference between a Command and an Invitation? When Christ offered his hand to Peter, to step out on to the water, could Peter have denied him and feared no harm?
Excellent questions into the Character of God.
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that sounds straight to me I’m in let’s cast some lots.
Hey check this out. It’s funny I have a funny thought. Jesus said I have not seen greater faith in all Isreal. Look at her story. Now look at legions story. They knew who he was by they’re own admission. Asked them to do something great. Then when there spirits hit the pigs they ran off into the watter. dead in the flesh. As all flesh must return from wich it came. That’s faith.
Hi Hungry.
We subdue the earth by using the soil for agriculture, taking care of the animals, and we have learned recycling is important so as not to destroy the earth with rubbish.
God did design the fall as in He allowed it. In the NT it says we are predestined before time began, which to me means God has set everything in motion and is aware of everything.
He made the deceiver for a purpose and that purpose was to deceive Eve. If Eve had walked away, Satan would have deceived another. Tis Gods eternal plan of salvation.
Now let me respond to your Moses question. In the very beginning God told Moses he wouldn’t see the promise land. God cleansed from sin in the OT by burnt offerings (of a spotless lamb) presented to Yahweh for the forgiveness of sins. Because of Jesus sacrifice, burnt offerings are no longer needed. I John 1:9.
I believe Moses and Aaron are in heaven because of their burnt offerings.
Just to mention something else on my heart, I am an atoned woman, redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, being sanctified by my Lord. Others were led to believe I wasn’t by my initial comment. I will forever have in my mind what my father said: we will be surprised at who is in heaven as well as who is not in heaven.
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While faith can move mountains, and those who serve obey without expectation of praise, those who are faithful, loyal and grateful are so moved, in their hearts, to give God praise.
Because God, Who is Most High, does not Lord it over you, but instead has stooped beneath His Station and considered you, your needs, and served you instead. Such is the LOVE of God and this is what moves a man to praise He Who is Above All Names when that man understands the significance of this. That we, who are nothing in the scope of time but a grain of dust, finite creatures here today and gone tomorrow should matter to He, Who is Above All and does not need to answer to anyone or anything. And yet instead of calling us to be mere servants, He has called us to be, Sons and Daughters of God.
And still, no one is more FAITHFUL, or LOVING, than God.
From Luke 17
**5 **The apostles said to the Lord, “Increase our faith!”
**6 **He replied, “If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be uprooted and planted in the sea,’ and it will obey you.
7 “Suppose one of you has a servant plowing or looking after the sheep. Will he say to the servant when he comes in from the field, ‘Come along now and sit down to eat’? **8 **Won’t he rather say, ‘Prepare my supper, get yourself ready and wait on me while I eat and drink; after that you may eat and drink’? **9 **Will he thank the servant because he did what he was told to do? **10 **So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, ‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.’”
Jesus Heals Ten Men With Leprosy
**11 **Now on his way to Jerusalem, Jesus traveled along the border between Samaria and Galilee. **12 **As he was going into a village, ten men who had leprosy[b] met him. They stood at a distance **13 **and called out in a loud voice, “Jesus, Master, have pity on us!”
**14 **When he saw them, he said, “Go, show yourselves to the priests.” And as they went, they were cleansed.
**15 **One of them, when he saw he was healed, came back, praising God in a loud voice. **16 **He threw himself at Jesus’ feet and thanked him—and he was a Samaritan.
**17 **Jesus asked, “Were not all ten cleansed? Where are the other nine? **18 **Has no one returned to give praise to God except this foreigner?” **19 **Then he said to him, “Rise and go; your faith has made you well.”
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I wholeheartedly agree with your last sentence since we…
Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
…need to work out our own salvation, not the salvation of others and the parable of the 10 virgins comes to mind.
Thank you.
J.
Burnt offerings are holy. And will remain forever. So the bible says.
Well I guess all I can say to that is? Amen sister!
Hey know one could have came with power. My thoughts were an invitation. Always. I guess I’ve been searching for someone. And that hit hard. Good job.and god bless..
Is it just me, or is watching @Hungry and @Tillman conversing interesting? To attempt to answer some of the questions. Some of which I hope is humour or sarcasm.
Where would you ever get that? However, @KPuff answered that pretty well.
Like everyone else in the Old Testament. Still through faith.
“And he believed the Lord, and he counted it to him as righteousness.” Genesis 15:6
“But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’” Luke 16:25-26
No. Christ asks you to do something sand your free will can have you do it, or not. If not, He can find someone else; however, since He knows already if you will or won’t, why would He waste His time?
Hope this helps. Convers on.
Peter
Look. When you post a thread in a forum you should probably be prepared to receive commentary on it, whether you like it or not. Gaging the defensive tone of your reply, I sense that you really don’t have an answer for me, which is what I had expected anyway. You can’t really believe that you know spirits are near and that you barely catch a glimpse of them. And do you really expect anyone that has common sense to believe that “sometimes they actually say hello”? There’s no plausible answer to these questions so don’t bother to try. It really does Christianity a disservice to make such outlandish claims like that. It can actually drive potential believers away. They think it’s made up, a myth. Those who do buy into it are either naive/gullible, or desperately looking for some superficial comfort, which I can’t argue does serve some value.
Correct, I have no answer for you. And in case it was not understood when I declined, no means no. Your feelings on the matter will not move me to do something I choose not to do.
And not defensive at all. It was quite matter of fact.
And if I choose to only address a specific party in a forum, that is my business and my right. Next time, I will just ignore you instead of acknowledging you and politely declining.