Preach it sorella @LadyK !
J.
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No hate, no anger. Stating facts. He was a pedophile, and Islam is full of them. Islam is a false religion fueled my hate and violence. They torture and enslave homosexuals, Christians, and anyone who does not convert. Pointing this out is a case of pointing out facts. There is no salvation, no heavenly virgins, no heaven in Islam. It has no place in a free society. Look what is happening in Britain. Europe in general.
Just because you do not like something does not change the facts. Again, no anger, no hate, just truth.
Peter
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Yes, we are to treat strangers fairly and justly. We are to repay evil with good. I agree with that. Have you read?
“To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.” Romans 12:20-21
I’m pretty sure you read this.
"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left.
Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty, and you gave me drink, I was a stranger, and you welcomed me, I was naked, and you clothed me, I was sick, and you visited me, I was in prison, and you came to me.’
Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’
Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger, and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison, and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Matthew 25:31-46
As children of God, it is our obligation to warn people and tell them the dangers of being on the Goat side. That is love. Especially when there is a threat of death for doing so.
Yup. Grow in the truth of His love and righteousness, and show people how to get in.
Peter
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Just, because I need more charitors in my responds, AMEN my sister. @LadyK
Peter
Awesome! You got “facts?” I love facts. Show me the facts. Use them. Post the facts and sources. Unless you don’t have any facts at all. Just, what’s that word I keep reading? Oh yeah, “feelings". Dark, vengeful, lashing out “feelings” that have nothing to do with Christ like behavior. That would be considered baring false witness, slander, if I am not mistaken. Good luck with that.
That was cute. Good luck on your “Christian” walk, love.
Never mind them, we all can quote Scripture, right? Usually more proof texts neglecting context.
Here’s a careful side-by-side table of the main hadiths that report Aisha’s age and her marriage/consummation.
I’ve included the source, what it says about age, and the event described. This is just the text, no commentary or interpretation beyond context.
Source Reported Age Event Text/Quote
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 64 6
Marriage contract “Aisha said: The Prophet married me when I was six years old, and consummated the marriage when I was nine years old.”
Sahih Muslim, Book 8, Hadith 3310 6 / 9 Marriage / Consummation
“Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six years old, and I was taken to his house at nine years old.”
Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 1422 6 / 9 Marriage / Consummation Similar wording: marriage at six, consummation at nine.
Ibn Sa’d, Tabaqat al-Kubra, Vol. 8 6 / 9 Marriage / Consummation
Reports Aisha’s statement of marriage at six and cohabitation at nine.
Notes from the sources themselves:
All reports consistently say marriage was arranged at six, consummation at nine.
“Marriage” in these texts refers to the contractual agreement; cohabitation and sexual relations began later.
These hadiths are part of the canonical Sunni collections (Bukhari, Muslim) and also appear in early biographical works (Ibn Sa’d).
This table contains every primary hadith I could find about Aisha’s age and marriage/consummation in classical Sunni sources.
Nothing in the Quran itself mentions her age, puberty, or the timing of marriage.
If you want, I can also add the exact Arabic text for each hadith with a word-for-word translation, so you can see the morphology and syntax that produce the “six and nine” numbers. This is usually where a lot of confusion starts.
Want me to do that for you brother, since I have the Qurans?
Jay Smith says there was no “Muhammed” anywhere, historically. Is he correct?
Have you read the Hadiths yourself? Listen to debates?
J.
Thank you, brother, for doing the legwork this time. I got sidetracked trying to help someone.
Peter
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Same here Peter, no worries.
J.
You asked for facts and sources. The claims made about Muhammad are drawn from Islam’s own primary texts, not from feelings.
By biblical command, prophets are tested by doctrine, character, and the source of their message. “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God” ~1 John 4:1. Scripture also says a prophet who speaks contrary to God’s revealed truth is false ~Deuteronomy 13:1–3.
Evaluating a religious figure using his own writings and measuring them against Scripture is not slander. Bearing false witness requires saying what is untrue ~Exodus 20:16. If a claim is false, show where it is false from the sources. Questioning tone does not refute facts.
Muhammad married and consummated with Aisha as a child
Primary source: Sahih al-Bukhari 5134, 5158; Sahih Muslim 1422
Aisha states she was six when married and nine when the marriage was consummated. These are among the most authenticated hadiths in Islam.
Muhammad claimed encounters with a spirit in a cave
Primary source: Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 1, Hadith 3
Muhammad describes being confronted in the cave of Hira by a being who seized and pressed him until he feared for his life. He later believed he was possessed and considered harming himself. This account is foundational to Islam’s origin narrative.
Muhammad expressed fear of demonic possession
Primary source: Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 1, Hadith 3; Sahih Muslim 160
After the cave encounter, Muhammad feared he was possessed by a jinn. His wife Khadijah reassured him. The text records his fear, not later interpretation.
You’ve beat me to it! Great job Johann. I’ve been in debates with some of those with Islamic beliefs and sadly some of them stood and read what was shown in the hadith It was as if they could not see/hear the things that they read aloud. It was extremely sad. But I saw the request for facts when I was on the road and wanted to badly to get home to give them. Again, great job
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Sam Shamoun is another great apologist @LadyK -ever heard of him?
J.
All the time. The way he breathes out scripture is fire! Did you know he memorized the whole Bible and the Quran? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WpaegLreSG8
Also, Godlogic. Godlogic shows extreme patience when he debates. Sam 
, Sam I don’t think they want to run across him incorrect. He shows less mercy when it comes to believing in pagan gods, false teaching of God’s Word even.
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Wish Nabeel Qureshi was here to answer some of the questions being raised on this platform @LadyK .
Shalom to you and family.
J.
Yes. I would’ve loved to have heard his answers as well. Ooh and Charlie’s! Our God is so marvelous to show himself through so many. We truly have a wonderful family in Christ! Brought me to tears just now thinking about this. How great it is to love all of you without having even met you all.
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Thank you for the references. I will look into them myself and respond in the future perhaps.
But this is what I found online regarding the information you referenced:
The discussion around Aisha’s age at marriage to the Prophet Muhammad varies among scholars and sources.
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This ongoing debate highlights the complexities of historical narratives and the importance of considering the context in which they were reported.
Here is a link that examines the source of the information and the possibility for error due to someone’s declining age. It should be noted that in Mohammad’s own time such a marriage and consummation age would have most likely been questioned. But, none of us were there and do not know the actual story. And because of this, perhaps it is not our place to judge. And if we do, we risk being judged ourselves. Why are we so eager to judge strangers we have never met based on the words of people long dead who may have misunderstood or misremembered something? Gossip is not Gospel.
Oh, I agree. But keep in mind the goats are associated with a lack of LOVE and Compassion, selfish and self-serving and the greedy, who do not care for the well-being of others including the homeless, the widow, the orphan, the foreigner, the hungry, the lost, the wounded, the sick, and the sinner. The goat is associated with those who build up walls to keep those leppers out. The goats are those who use sickness and sin and differences as a tool for separation rather than something to be moved passed, worked through, a situation where God’s Power can move through to Glorify His Name and His Kingdom. As your quote clearly demonstrates:
And this is why Christians must be warned of the Devil’s Snare in the times we live in. Christians, by binding themselves to the same pursuits as the Republican Party (and all far right groups worldwide that are moving now in every nation in a similar way) are indirectly declaring themselves to be goats.
Christians will be standing in the same line as the goats on Judgement Day because they were won over by the wooing words of the Devil, who is always willing to make a deal, a bargain, to take a soul with him back to hell, as the old lore goes. Inducted into his war to serve his purpose against God. They will be called Goats, told by Christ, “I never knew you,” because of the way they treated the poor, the sick, the hungry, the homeless, the orphan, the widow, the elderly, the foreigner, and the less fortunate.
And how did they mistreat these groups? By chasing after the Republican Party who have made every point to attack, hurt, and harm every form of sinner, minority, foreigner, and vulnerable group that they possibly can in all their efforts to “save a dollar, “make a buck,” and To Take Complete Unending Control.
Republicans, by appealing to Christian Agendas to garner support from Christians, by casting blame and pointing fingers at the “Agendas” of others with false accusations, using a rally cry for ethics and morality while displaying none of their own, swooped up many Christians into their ranks all while unknowingly binding themselves and all their Christian supporters with the same evil as the goats, as they and their Christian Elect carry the Republican cause forward.
You should all be so aware of the company you keep. Look and see clearly the precipice you stand on.
And I say this with LOVE. Christ is calling you home, out of the darkness. Out of this murky fog of illusion and delusion, lies, deception, manipulation and misdirection. The Father is calling to His prodigal sons and daughters: It is time to come home. You are vulnerable where you are. The Devil will make every effort to devour you. Leave that place, and come home. Now. Before the Darkness comes and you are caught without a source of light.
The Republican party once stood for something. It had ethics, morality, a compass. It meant something to be a Republican. And maybe it will again, someday. But not today. It has been warped by the Enemy to serve an evil end. Using your own fears and hate against you.
Do not be tied to that which will take you over the edge, along with everyone you love and hold dear. Let it go and start again. Trust in Christ to guide you.
Do not be led by flattery, or bribery, or that dark stirring to get revenge upon your enemies, vengeance against those who you have been led to believe wronged you, stole from you, maligned you in some intangible way. This is the path of Barabas, not Christ. Christ calls you to surrender the struggle, the sin, on the cross. Trust in Him.
Humanity is fractured into extremes, on both sides, and they are fighting shadows. Make no mistake, the Left has their own battle taking place now as well. But Conservative Christians lean right, and that is the focus here. The Devil is playing all sides. But one will surely destroy the other if either one continues on their current path, devouring one another- Murder of half the population. Cain and Able.
God is the only One Who can make us Whole again. Trust in Him. If the action has no LOVE at its core, it is not worth doing. Let us together break the Devil’s hold over this world. And offer the whole world to God, in LOVE.
And that is right on the money. Let love lead the way. Let our hopes be the beginning of the race. I sure do hope I get to see my mother and kids again because I love them. Throw faith in there and it will happen. As written.
It dont work like that bruce. My words and thoughts run deep idk why or how to explain it. It all comes from the scriptures i have read. You can either believe in me or deny me. That is a sign of a profit. From how I understand it. This is spirit running in me it should be your place than believe or deny. If you deny it set me straight for I long for simply being right.
…no verse in Scripture commands anyone to “accept Jesus” using that language. The phrase is familiar, devotional, and modern, but it is not a biblical formula.
Now the careful explanation, text first, tradition second.
In the New Testament, the verb “accept” does not appear in the sense it is commonly used today in evangelistic language.
There is no Greek verb meaning “invite Jesus into your heart” or “accept Jesus as personal Savior” as a technical expression.
What Scripture actually uses instead are stronger, relational, and covenantal verbs.
First, receive.
~John 1:12 (Tyndale)
“But as many as received him, to them he gave power to be the sons of God, even them that believe on his name.”
Greek verb: ἔλαβον
Aorist active indicative.
Meaning: to take, receive, grasp, lay hold of.
Note carefully:
The text says “received”, not “accepted,” and the verb implies active taking hold, not passive mental agreement.
Also note: “accept” is not in the Greek.
Second, believe.
This is by far the dominant verb.
~John 3:16 (Tyndale)
“That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
Greek verb: πιστεύων
Present active participle.
Meaning: to trust, rely upon, entrust oneself to.
This is not mere assent. It is ongoing reliance.
Again, “accept” does not appear.
Third, come.
~Matthew 11:28 (Tyndale)
“Come unto me all ye that labour and are laden, and I will ease you.”
Greek verb: δεῦτε
Imperative.
Meaning: come, approach.
Jesus commands movement toward himself, not a psychological transaction.
Fourth, repent.
~Mark 1:15 (Tyndale)
“Repent and believe the gospel.”
Greek verb: μετανοεῖτε
Present active imperative.
Meaning: change the mind, turn, reorient.
This is directional and transformative, not merely emotional.
Fifth, confess.
~Romans 10:9 (Tyndale)
“If thou shalt knowledge with thy mouth that Jesus is the Lord, and shalt believe in thine heart that God raised him from death, thou shalt be safe.”
Greek verb: ὁμολογήσῃς
Aorist active subjunctive.
Meaning: to confess, declare openly, agree publicly.
Again, “accept” is not present.
So where does “accept Jesus” come from?
It is a summary phrase, developed much later, meant to compress biblical ideas like believing, receiving, confessing, and coming into a single pastoral expression. It is not heretical by necessity, but it is not textual.
The danger is not the phrase itself.
The danger is when the phrase replaces the biblical verbs and flattens them into a momentary decision rather than a lived allegiance.
Scripture does not say:
“Accept Jesus.”
Scripture says:
Receive him.
Believe in him.
Come to him.
Repent.
Confess him as Lord.
Follow him.
Those are not synonyms. They are demands.
Receive correction [lovingly speaking]
If someone asks, “Where does the Bible say to accept Jesus?” the honest answer is:
It does not use that wording. It uses stronger words.
You need to rephrase your post dear brother.
Fellow pilgrim.
J.