Does God still suffer injustice?

At times, my lonely soul cries into aparent darkness, “Who is there that will understand me, who will care for me? To whom do I matter, or who respects me as a person worth loving? Only God you say? He is mostly silent!”
Yes, He may be silent, but he is not without understanding; His situation is worse than my own.

The differential between the amounts of honor and respect God is owed, to that which he actually receives is vast, and exposes the pettiness of my own plight. The amount of appreciation He receives, the amount of honor He receives, the amount of worship he receives are all highly deficient compared to what He is due. An abject lack of sincerity, habitual hypocrisy, lip-service, and a dearth of fear and trembling are His return on His investment in His own creatures. For my part in this, I am undone. I am a man who has learned to survive without encouragement, respect, or the amount of love that I want, and I have been doing it for many years, but God has been unjustly disrespected for thousands of years. I know, when I start feeling the effects of loneliness, I can turn to God for comfort, but He has no one to turn to, no one to look up to, no one to whom He can pour out His lament. Most of the time I am treated like “the waterboy” by friends and family, but God is most often treated like a first-aid kit, shut-up in a small metal box, tucked away under the sink, kept only in-case-of-emergency; like a subservient genie-in-a-bottle, kept under cork, untended, ignored, unneeded, and unwelcome unless something erupts that is too big for the person to handle, saying “Stay out of my affairs. I’ll call you if I need you!” This makes me very sad, not only because it is prevalent in my surroundings, not only because I am personally party to this incessant charade, but because few tolerate even hearing about it, or having it openly exposed as the vast injustice that it is. Many may speak of one horrible morning of injustice, 2000 years ago, the prejudicial trial, sentencing, and subsequent punishment that Jesus endured for a short time, but then add that He quickly recovered. It pacifies personal guilt and covers criminal complicity by suggesting “After He suffered, He got up, was ushered into heaven, and suffers no more, so it was kinda all worth it for him”. He made it through the torture and now He is alive, waiting at my beck-and-call, ready to put sugar into my tea and fresh biscuits on my plate."This makes me weep. Mankind does not like to consider, nor cares to be reminded, that their salvation was not bought with a momentary injustice event. Injustice toward God is unrelenting, God has endured it from the first man He created, and it continues in every moment, and from every person, ever since. Idolatry did not begin or end at the cross. What did end there was the all-but-sure conclusion that injustice and it’s incumbent death would prevail for eternity for all mankind. While suffering injustice and disrespect from His own creatures, God chose to save them from the conclusion of their insolence, “with His own arm”, “while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us”. Jesus still suffers injustice, the maltreated still loves the maleficent.

When we gather on the first day of the week to remember the broken body and shed blood of our Savior, we are not remembering only a momentary injustice, but an eternal one. We are remembering that through that broken body and shed blood God conquered the resultant death of injustice, God defeated the eternal separation that the prideful insolence of man had brought upon himself. Pride and injustice did not cease at the cross, but their promise of death did for those sheep who Jesus calls His own did. We still must learn true and full jusrtice, we have much personal change in store, He that began this work in us, will complete it. Father forgive us, we surely don’t know what we have done.

KP

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@KPuff
This [testimony?] resonates with my spirit, yet personal testimonies are not the gospel and must always remain subordinate to it.

Pride comes in many forms and expressions, as you are no doubt well aware.

Remain steadfast in Messiah, brother, and Isaiah 53 is well worth deep and prayerful contemplation.

And…

God does not suffer injustice in the sense of being overpowered, diminished, or wronged against His will, for He is sovereign, righteous, and judge of all the earth, yet Scripture reveals that God truly bears injustice in a covenantal and redemptive sense, most clearly in the suffering of Christ Jesus on the cross, where the Righteous One was treated unjustly by human courts, religious leaders, and imperial authority while fully accomplishing the will of the Father ~Isaiah 53:3–7, ~Acts 2:23, ~1 Peter 2:22–24.

In the incarnation the Son willingly entered the realm of human injustice, enduring rejection, false accusation, violence, and shame, not as a victim of chance but as the obedient Servant who “was oppressed and afflicted, yet He did not open His mouth,” bearing sins and absorbing wrongs in order to redeem, reconcile, and judge righteously, so God does not suffer injustice as weakness but as chosen self giving love expressed through the crucified Messiah.

Even now God is not indifferent to injustice, for Scripture speaks of Him being grieved, provoked, and dishonored by human sin and oppression, yet His response is not impotence but patience μακροθυμέω, delaying judgment so that repentance may occur, while storing up righteous judgment for the day when all wrongs will be publicly answered through the risen Christ ~Genesis 6:6, ~Isaiah 1:16–17, ~Romans 2:4–6.

Therefore God does not suffer injustice as an unwilling casualty, but He bears with injustice for a time, having already absorbed its full weight at the cross, and He will finally and perfectly rectify every wrong when the Lamb who was slain returns as judge, ensuring that no injustice is ignored, excused, or left unresolved in His kingdom.

J.

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Yeah this is a deeply moving testimony. Thank you sir for sharing your sincere and wise counsel. I’m with you brother.

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What you wrote here @KPuff sounds a lot like some of our examples in the Word. How long? How long with you suffer those against your people? How long will you allow evil to exist?

“O Lord, how long shall I cry for help, and you will not hear? Or cry to you, “Violence!” and you will not save? Why do you make me see iniquity, and why do you idly look at wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; strife and contention arise. So the law is paralyzed, and justice never goes forth. For the wicked surround the righteous; so justice goes forth perverted.” Habakkuk 1:2-4

Or King David.

“O Lord, how long shall the wicked,
How long shall the wicked exult?
They pour out their arrogant words;
All the evildoers boast.
They crush your people, O Lord,
and afflict your heritage.
They kill the widow and the sojourner,
and murder the fatherless;
and they say, “The Lord does not see;
The God of Jacob does not perceive.”

I think there are two clear answers to this question. The first was Jesus Himself.

“He put another parable before them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field, but while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat and went away. So when the plants came up and bore grain, then the weeds also appeared.

And the servants of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have weeds?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ So the servants said to him, ‘Then do you want us to go and gather them?’

But he said, ‘No, lest in gathering the weeds you root up the wheat along with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, “Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn.” Matthew 13:24-30

Then we read in 2 Peter 3:9

“The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.”

If God were to rush His judgment and grant all mankind what we deserve, there would be none that would be saved. It is the Love of God that allows us to continue.

Peter

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Thanx @Johann. This reads like you wrote it coming from your head and your heart simultaneously. I appreciate that.

KP

Thanx @PeterC.
What The Lord was reminding me of, in the throes of my own lament, was the depth of His personal sympathy, i.e. His ability to fully enter into my discomfiture because He also experiences it, constantly, but much more intensely.

For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses (anguish), but was in all points tempted (tested and proven) as we are, yet without sin (failing perfection). Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. (Hebrews 4:15-16)

Like Habakkuk and David, who you mentioned, God offers no simple and satisfying answer to the question “Why”, but delivers something much more valuable; He gives us His sympathy tightly-coupled to His enduring promise that He has the remediation all worked out and waiting in the wings. I have no promise that He will ever so improve the capacity of my mortal mind that I will ever be able to comprehend the depth of “Why”, but He has given me the capacity of faith; faith that pacifies a troubled mind with assurance that there IS an answer, and it is good.

I appreciate you
KP

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“Be strong in the Lord and in His mighty power.” ~Ephesians 6:10

Eph 6:10 - Τοῦ Henceforth λοιποῦ, be empowered ἐνδυναμοῦσθε in ἐν [the] Lord Κυρίῳ and καὶ in ἐν the τῷ strength κράτει of τῆς His αὐτοῦ. might. ἰσχύος

J.

Frients and brothers

For clarification, when I asked “Does God still suffer injustice” I intended the traditional meaning of the word “suffer” and not the colloquial meaning. i.e. I meant to convey the meaning of “suffer” as we read the word employed in the KJV, where it means: “allow”, “permit to occur or continue”, “refrain from hindering”, or “fail to prevent or suppress”, , and not something modern like “prolonged anguish", “painful hardship”, “unrelenting discomfiture”, "unfortunate agony”, although the word is used in this way more commonly.

For ye suffer (put up with) fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise. 2 Corinthians 11:19 (KJV)

But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it (don’t try to prevent it) to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. Matthew 3:14-15 (KJV)

But Jesus said, Suffer (permit) little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence. Matthew 19:14-15 (KJV)

And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth (willingly endures) violence, and the violent take it by force. Matthew 11:12 (KJV)

Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things (accepted these things), and to enter into his glory? Luke 24:25-26 (KJV)

I appreciate the clarification:

I was reminded that God did not only experience agony for a few terrestrial hours, but suffers (does not act to prevent) His own agony, and the continual anguish of rejection. We speak of God as being wholly content, at peace, unchallenged, and serene in His habitation, and I’m sure there is a reality to those descriptions of His Holy Heaven. But, there is also seems to be a realty to the idea that our faithful, loving, sacrificing Father willingly endures the unholy and unjust effects of rejection, patiently waiting and suffering (allowing this injustice) until the fullness of time.

Thanks friends for your input. It truly means a lot to me.

KP

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The sick cruelty of the world should cause you to desire a savior who’s going to set things right, your alternative is that toddlers get sexually assaulted for no reason and that ultimately nothing matters. The world is a sick and cruel place because humans have made it that way, remove God from the equation and you’d still have this sick and dying world.