We base our beliefs on the Bible
Not what I have read so far @Gospel and I was informed 6 of my rebuttals was flagged.
Strange.
J.
@Johann welcome back my friend, i honestly missed your company here on crosswalk
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Thank you dear friend and co-worker in Christ Jesus, and I have missed you!
Shalom to you and family.
Johann.
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There is a danger in choosing a religion based solely on how it makes us feel. The Bible foretold a time when people would “surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled.” (2 Timothy 4:3)
In contrast, the Bible encourages us to follow “the religion that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father,” even if that religion is unpopular.—James 1:27; John 15:18, 19.
In ~Joel 2:32 (Hebrew 3:5), the Masoretic Text reads, “וְהָיָה כֹּל אֲשֶׁר־יִקְרָא בְּשֵׁם יְהוָה יִמָּלֵט,” which may be rendered, “and it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of YHWH shall be delivered.” The divine name here is יְהוָה, the Tetragrammaton, and the verb “calls” is יִקְרָא from the root קָרָא in the Qal imperfect, expressing an open, ongoing act of invocation. The object of that invocation is “the name,” שֵׁם, yielding the full expression “to call upon the name of YHWH,” a covenantal formula denoting appeal, worship, and dependence.
In the Septuagint, this is rendered, “καὶ ἔσται πᾶς ὃς ἂν ἐπικαλέσηται τὸ ὄνομα Κυρίου σωθήσεται,” where יְהוָה is translated as Κύριος, following standard LXX convention. The Hebrew verb קָרָא is translated by ἐπικαλέσηται, the aorist middle subjunctive of ἐπικαλέομαι, meaning “to call upon” or “to invoke,” while שֵׁם becomes τὸ ὄνομα. Thus, the Greek reads, “everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” This LXX formulation is then carried directly into the New Testament in ~Romans 10:13, where Paul applies the same phrase, ἐπικαλέσηται τὸ ὄνομα Κυρίου, to Jesus as Lord, thereby identifying Him with the Κυρίου of Joel, which in the Hebrew text is יְהוָה.
J.
The Resurrection and the Body: Many would argue that resurrection is crucial to Christianity because it affirms the redemption of the whole person, including the physical body, rather than just an escape of the soul.
@Gospel Im sorry my friend im confused do Jeovah’s have a different bible or the same one as us Christians?
We do not, and never have, taught works-based salvation.
Jesus is a powerful spirit who lives in heaven. He was created by JEHOVAH God before everything else. For that reason, he is called “the firstborn of all creation.”
A)Preeminence and Authority:“Firstborn” (prototokos) denotes the primary heir or one who holds supreme rank, rather than the first one created. Jesus is the heir of all things and rules over the entire creation.
B)Active Agent in Creation:Willard emphasizes that the incarnation is a “cosmic event” where Christ, who is before all things, personally inhabits the world, and in whom “all things hold together”.
C)The Incarnate God: The phrase underscores that Jesus is the “visible image of the invisible God,” the one through whom and for whom all things were created
Samuelsson devoutly believes the story of Jesus’ death and resurrection, but says for generations people have misinterpreted and mistranslated the Greek word “stauros” to mean crucifix, when really the term just means a suspension device, which might have been anything such as a “pole or a tree trunk.
Jesus was not resurrected in His original body. That is why none of His disciples initially recognized Him when He appeared to them. e.g. Mary Magdalene who was very acquainted with Jesus thought He was the gardener when she encountered Him.
Disagree- for to redeem the whole body, soul and Spirit…then that would mean His body raised too
Jesus inviting Thomas to touch his wounds in John 20:27 is widely understood as a demonstration that he was physically resurrected , possessing a tangible body rather than appearing merely as a ghost or spirit. This event, along with Jesus eating fish and showing his wounds, confirms he rose with a physical, albeit glorified, body.
Important details on Jesus’ Physical Resurrection-
Physical Evidence-Jesus offered his body as “living proof” of his resurrection to counteract doubt.
Distinction from Ghosts-In Luke 24:39, Jesus specifically states, “a ghost does not have flesh and bones as you see I have,” which aligns with the incident with Thomas.
Tangible Wounds-Thomas’s ability to touch the nail prints in his hands and the wound in his side John 20:25 shows a continuation of his physical form, now glorified, rather than a completely new, ethereal form.
Purpose of Touch- The interaction with Thomas helped to solidify the belief in the physical reality of the resurrection in the face of skepticism, moving him to declare, “My Lord and my God!”.
Why did Jesus tell Mary not to Cling to him in John 20:17? - GC
In both John 20:27 and Luke 24:39, however, Thomas and the disciples touch Jesus to verify that he rose bodily from the dead. Thomas will not believe Jesus rose. GC
In the Bible, God’s holy spirit is identified as God’s power in action. Hence, an accurate translation of the Bible’s Hebrew text refers to God’s spirit as “God’s active force.
Willard
Romans 8:9-11: Willard points to this passage to illustrate that the Spirit is the personal presence of God (and of Christ) dwelling in believers, capable of bringing life to mortal bodies.
A)Ephesians 4:30 (Implicit in teaching on grieving the Spirit): Willard emphasizes that “an influence could not be grieved, it must be a person who can be grieved, tested, or resisted”.
B)Galatians 5:17-18: This passage portrays the Spirit as having a personal will that conflicts with the flesh, indicating personal, conscious action rather than a passive force.
C)John 14–16 (Context of the Trinity): Willard frames the Holy Spirit as the third Person of the Trinity—a personal being of love, knowledge, and power—who carries out the work of the Father and Son in the believer.
D)Corinthians 12:11:This verse describes the Spirit as having personal volition, choosing to distribute gifts “to each one individually as He wills,” which demonstrates personal agency.
Jesus’ enemies, seeking a reason to put him to death, did not ask if he claimed to be God, but whether he was “the Christ the Son of God.” He answered: “You yourself said it. Yet I say to you men, From henceforth you will see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of power and coming on the clouds of heaven.” (Matthew 26:63, 64)
Earlier Jesus had quoted and applied to himself David’s words: “The utterance of JEHOVAH to my Lord is: ‘Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.’” Jesus did not say he was JEHOVAH, or part of some unscriptural Trinity, but that he would be at Jehovah’s right hand, awaiting the outworking of God’s time and purposes.—Psalm 110:1; Matthew 22:42-44.
The New World Translation is our liturgical book, but JEHOVAH’s Witnesses can use whatever Bible version they want outside of their worship service.
Yes, I believe in the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Eternal life commences after the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and the resurrection of the dead.
Jesus is “The beginning of God’s creation” (Revelation 3:14) God created his “only-begotten Son.” (John 3:16)
Thus indicating love, wisdom, father-son relationship, and at the same time highlighting “only-begotten”, a most unique/one of a kind and well beloved only-begotten Son.
Jesus is the “Firstborn of all creation” (Colossians 1:15), thus he was born, being preeminent in rank.
He was born, begotten, created: three words, in English or in Greek, that define finite/a coming into existence.
God made the first human couple flesh and blood. Prior to this, God had made his heavenly companions spirit, of a composition superior to that of man. On this point, Jesus Christ made a clarifying statement on the day of his resurrection from the dead. He appeared to his disciples in a locked room in Jerusalem. To do this, he appeared in a materialized body like that in which he had died, but they thought they were seeing a spirit. Well, what did he say to them? This: “A spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that I have.”—Luke 24:36-39.
After conversing with those amazed disciples, the resurrected Jesus vanished. He dematerialized or dissolved that clothed human body. He did not take that body and its clothing into the spirit realm with him. Had it been possible to do so, it would mean that a spirit person in heaven does have flesh and bones, at least in the case of the glorified Jesus Christ.—1 Corinthians 15:50.
Personification does not prove personality. It is true that Jesus spoke of the holy spirit as a “helper” and spoke of such helper as ‘teaching,’ ‘bearing witness,’ ‘giving evidence,’ ‘guiding,’ ‘speaking,’ ‘hearing,’ and ‘receiving.’ In so doing, the original Greek shows Jesus at times applying the masculine personal pronoun to that “helper” (paraclete). (Compare Joh 14:16, 17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15.)
However, it is not unusual in the Scriptures for something that is not actually a person to be personalized or personified. Wisdom is personified in the book of Proverbs (1:20-33; 8:1-36); and feminine pronominal forms are used of it in the original Hebrew, as also in many English translations. (KJ, RS, JP, AT) Wisdom is also personified at Matthew 11:19 and Luke 7:35, where it is depicted as having both “works” and “children.”
The apostle Paul personalized sin and death and also undeserved kindness as “kings.” (Ro 5:14, 17, 21; 6:12) He speaks of sin as “receiving an inducement,” ‘working out covetousness,’ ‘seducing,’ and ‘killing.’ (Ro 7:8-11) Yet it is obvious that Paul did not mean that sin was actually a person.
JEHOVAH is “the Lord” mentioned at Romans 10:13 because the verse quotes from Joel 2:32, where God’s name, not the title “Lord,” occurs in the original Hebrew.
It is likely that Christian Bible writers used God’s name when they quoted “Old Testament” texts containing that name. The Anchor Bible Dictionary states: “There is some evidence that the Tetragrammaton, the Divine Name, Yahweh, appeared in some or all of the O[ld] T[estament] quotations in the N[ew] T[estament] when the NT documents were first penned.” (Volume 6, page 392)
I think we have gone in circles enough on this topic. Questions asked, answered, rejected, asked, answered, and asked again. So this topic is now closed. Perhaps it will be picked up again in the future.
God Bless @all
Peter