Does one need to be baptized in order to be saved?
no, it is a picture of what did happen when you get saved .
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Belief is required for salvation. We humans have tagged on a lot of other requirements in the last three centuries.Sadly, we require for salvation things that belief brings about. Physical baptism falls into that category.
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Baptism is not required for salvation. The thief on the cross wasnât baptized but still went to paradise to be with Jesus. Romans 10:9-10 says, âIf you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved.â And Ephesians 2:8-9 says, âFor by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.â Iâm pretty sure that baptism falls into the category of âworks.â Thatâs why I believe baptism doesnât save.
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If you have not been baptised can you still be a Christian? Go to Heaven?
You decideâŚ
Acts 10:47-48
Authorized (King James) Version
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 22:16
Authorized (King James) Version
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
The 1st message to Jesusâ New Testament Church-
Acts 2:38
Authorized (King James) Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Mark 16:16
Authorized (King James) Version
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Every verse you just dropped is a mic drop on the âbaptism optionalâ crowd. Notice: commanded, for the remission of sins, wash away thy sins, shall be saved. Thatâs not symbolic fluffâthatâs soul-saving substance.
You donât argue with orders from the Kingâyou obey them.
No baptism, no obedience. No obedience? You do the math.
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Sincere Seeker- you are a great encourager !! I think we really agree on more than we disagreeâŚMay the Lord Jesus continue to richly bless you
BrotherDavidâthank you for the kind words. Iron sharpens iron, and I thank God for fellow soldiers like you who stand on the Word. May the Lord Jesus Christ continue to strengthen you, guide you, and pour out His grace on your walk and witness. Stay bold, stay blessed.
I want to argue with you. <3
Just kidding. I really mean âhave dialogueâ.
L&R,
F
Ha! Well, Iâll gladly take âdialogueâ over drive-by theology any day. 
Iron sharpens iron, and if weâre swinging Scripture instead of egos, Iâm all in. Letâs reason togetherâbut letâs do it with open Bibles, not open loopholes. 
Love and respect right back at you,
â S.S. 
Haha, Iâm not sure that I know what âdrive by theologyâ is comprised of, but Iâve got an idea and I donât think thatâs the cabin Iâm camping in.
The way I see it is something like this: I love and value you because you are a human being. I love and value you because you are (assuming you are a gentleman) my brother. I love and value you because of the spark of divinity in you. Itâs also in me. And I know where it came from. And lastly, I love and value you because your perspective is different from mine and because of that, you know much that I do not. You hold the key to many doors Iâve never opened. Whatâs rad is that the same is true in reverse, at least insofar as the perspective is concerned.
God thinks you matter. And I happen to trust That Guyâs opinion and respect Him enough not to doubt his view. So I think you matter too.
Maybe you SHOULD challenge my perspective. Not in a harsh or unkind way, but because of those keys on your ring that arenât on mine. Maybe I need to peek through your frame of reference to be able to understand the piece properly.
But even if I donât understand the work, I still want to understand you. And learn from you.
So thatâs the Hemingway version of âargueâ or âhave dialogueâ.
And thereâs also the fact that my margins of my Bible are loaded with questions, observations and delights. Iâm brand new in this arena, still wet behind my Raised Atheist ears. I donât want to be met with Constantine. I want to be met with Jesus.
And, to conclude, the tiny feral human in my lap INSISTS that I include his wisdom which I will here impart you with:
âParallelogram + 7 = Yogurt.â
Powerful stuff.
L&R,
F
(And Tiny Feral Human)
FantasticFaeryn (and Tiny Feral Humanâ˘),
Okay, now weâre really talking. That wasnât a replyâthat was a warm-hearted theological hug wrapped in poetry and served with a side of math-sorcery. I receive it gratefully.
Let me say this straight up: your posture? Thatâs gold. Humility meets hungerâthatâs where real growth happens. I donât need anyone to agree with me right away. I just want to see folks dust off the Word and dare to wrestle with it. The Bereans werenât blessed because they noddedâthey were blessed because they searched (Acts 17:11). Sounds like youâve got their spiritâand thatâs rarer than we admit.
Now, about those âkeysââyes, Iâve got a few. But so do you. Weâre not rivals in a sword fight; weâre travelers comparing maps, each one tattered from a different storm. If youâre chasing Jesus and carrying a Bible, youâre already ahead of most seminaries.
And donât worryâIâm not bringing Constantine. Iâm not here for empire theology. Iâm here for Kingdom clarity. Jesus didnât die to create a religionâHe died to redeem rebels and raise up disciples. So no robes, no thronesâjust a cross, a crown, and a call to obedience.
As for âParallelogram + 7 = Yogurtâ? Look, Iâve read Ezekiel. That math checks out.
L&R right back at you,
âS.S.
(Still grinning)
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We were under the Old testament until Christ breathed his last breath. Therefore New Testament mode of baptism wasnât introduced yet.
Acts 2:38 KJV
âThen Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.â
There are verses in Scripture that sing softly, like a gentle psalm in the night. Then there are verses that thunder through timeâverses that split history in two and shake the heavens with divine authority. Acts 2:38 is one of those verses. Itâs not just a call to actionâitâs the command that opened the doors to the Kingdom. It is not merely a suggestion for spiritual lifeâit is the blueprint for entrance into the Kingdom of the Living God.
And let me say this from the outset: this verse is not a denominational badge. It is not Pentecostal traditionâit is apostolic revelation. It is not manâs idea of religious ritualâit is Heavenâs response to the cry, âMen and brethren, what shall we do?â
Peter didnât preach this on a random Sunday morning. No, this was not a Bible study in a quiet upper room. This was the inaugural sermon of the Church, given not in weakness, but in power. Not in theory, but in demonstration. The wind had already blown. Tongues of fire had already sat. The Spirit had already fallen. And nowâGodâs man stood in the boldness of the Holy Ghost to declare the keys of the Kingdom.
It was in response to conviction. Not entertainment. Not excitement. Conviction pierced their hearts. The Word had gone forth. The prophecy of Joel is being fulfilled. The reality of Calvary had sunk in. And when conviction hits the soul, religion wonât satisfy. Philosophy wonât ease the burden. They didnât want more knowledgeâthey wanted a way out. They didnât ask, âTell us more theology.â They cried, âWhat must we do?â
Thatâs when Peter, full of the same Spirit that had just been poured out, opened his mouth and thundered three eternally essential elements:
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Repent.
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Be baptized in Jesusâ name.
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Receive the Holy Ghost.
This is not three optionsâitâs one command in three parts. This is not a spiritual buffetâitâs the divine order of salvation. And today, in a world thatâs trying to customize Christianity and modernize the message, God is calling us back to the original altar, the original water, and the original fire.
If you want the power of Pentecostâyou must walk through the door of Acts 2:38. And itâs still open. Still saving. Still washing. Still filling.
Peace to all,
In thinking forward, there are two becomings from created failed from the spirit through the created souls of all for the flesh, the Body in both natures, spirit and life, to become again in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, rationally.
In all generalization, From death to life in the flesh is through the spirit for the soul in the Body from two natures, spirit and life, God and Temple becoming to resurrection life in the flesh from the living waters of Baptism.
Death to life through the Holy Spirit is from Sacrifice through Penance, forgiven to be able to become again glorified and transfigured, in all generalization.
John the Baptist logically is Born Baptism and born sanctified from the spirit through his soul for his flesh to be able to become again from conception, leaping in the womb with Cousin Jesus before birth, becoming brothers and sister to all mankind through the Christ from the cross and John the Baptist is the greatest born of man yet least in the kingdom because he has yet to become again from Baptism through death for resurrection becoming again glorified and transfigured as The Christ becoming again in One Holy Family in One Holy Family One God in being. And we know now He is in heaven glorified and transfigured with The Christ in the New Heaven and Earth, Heaven fulfilled through both natures, Spirit and life, in One God in being.
Peace always,
Stephen