Yes and no
Yes Baptism saves
On one hand any action of faith can deliver(save)
If one believes God can use water to wash away sins then itâs faith that saves through the use of water.
If scripture tells one to be immersed by calling upon the name of the Lord, that works too.
Or take up your bed and walk..
Ultimately it is Faith in God that saves.
Here are some inferences and assumptions:
Could we infer through scripture that the tradition of Baptism, of the Jews was that: whoeverâs teaching they followed they were baptized into that name.
So into the Name is the reality of ones teaching
Which brings me back to a question of the meaning of one group saved through faith and another by faith?
Did Jesus Ever command baptism in water? Or to immerse, or surround them (baptize) into the name- which is the presence of God
Those who were Baptized by JohnâŚwere they Batized in the name of John? Yet some said they only heard about Johnâs Baptism..John taught a baptism onto repentance. And one might infer by what He called the Pharasees that the fruit of repentance was to be evident before one was water baptized.
Note: evidence of a changed heart.
So, to those who believe and are baptized will be saved but those who believe not condemn.
Note: Scripture never says those not water baptized are not saved, or will not be saved.
Could it be then that âbelieveâ is the key. Not exactly that water would save them. But that God could save them through the use of water or through water.
So the âbelieveâ that saves is a believe that acts.
So then how were the Gentiles saved; Those that had received the Spirit before water baptism.
Those mentioned were they immersed in Godâs presence by the Spirit before water? If so what saved them? Faith in their revelatation from God of who Jesus is? ( After all Abraham believed God about having a son and it was accounted to Him as righteousness. )
Then one thing we can infer about water baptism is that it was an outward expression of a firmly held inward belief.
The 2nd, is in which one was accepted into a group, our pledge to die to self so that we could live by the Spirit.
The 3rd, thing that could be said about it is that itâs a reminder of our life source and whose rule we chose. ( note: Is not our transformation part of salvation, renewal of the mind?)
But just like circumcisiom, one might say, if you do not live up to your baptism then it will not yield the reward of life.
Now what about other Gentiles how did they receive the Holy Spirit. BY THE HEARING? OR BY THE DOING?
My thoughts for the knowledge I have would be this:
Itâs Faith that saves and receiving life moves you into action. So one must first come alive by the hearing of the word..( mmmm The Faith?) which is the First type of salvation/ deliverence mention in Eph 2:8. It seems like the action seals the deal. But maybe notâŚof one physical movement only but both of the intentions of the heart.
If I recall correctly, They asked Peter what must they doâŚWhy did they asked this? Was it because they believed the words of Peter concerning Christ? Are we missing something j
But whose to say Baptism is the only action of faith and that it is water baptism alone that may seal the deal.
Question Does one receive the Spirit before they are cleansed? Or does one receive cleansing before they receive the Spirit?
The word might be a key..
Could it be that the words become Spirit/life
Anyway there are many things to be looked at here..
Peace and blessings
But the main thing is that however we get there we are baptized, immersed or surrounded in the presence of the Holy Trinity. The name of the father son and Holy Ghost. As God was with Israel. HE IS OUR SALVATION.