Is Being Gay a Sin?

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@Tillman, it’s not that your “truth” is hard to grasp. It’s that it doesn’t line up with the Word of God.

You’ve cast yourself as a Christlike outsider and painted everyone who holds to Scripture as modern-day Pharisees. That’s convenient, but it’s false. The Pharisees weren’t rebuked because they kept the law. They were rebuked because they broke it while pretending to uphold it. They honored God with their lips but their hearts were far from Him. Sound familiar?

You accuse others of being rich in spirit, blind to truth, and unwilling to deny themselves. But that is exactly what’s being asked of you. Deny yourself. Deny your opinions. Deny your attempts to redefine righteousness around personal sincerity. Follow Christ on His terms, not yours.

The narrow road is not paved with self-made doctrines and poetic sentiment. It is paved with obedience, repentance, and submission to the authority of the Word. Jesus didn’t say, “Feel deeply.” He said, “Follow Me.”

And if you’re going to say “Blessed be in Christ,” then let your doctrine actually come from Him.

—Sincere Seeker. Stay grounded. Stay sharp. Stay in the Word.

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Biology and psychology have zero to do with God’s commandments. Science tells us that a fetus, or embryo, and I’m talking HUMAN fetus, is NOT a baby, so abortion isn’t murder. If being gay isn’t a sin, then neither is abortion. Sin is sin. Those churches that have relaxed their stance on SIN, in any form, are compromised churches, that are bending to the will of man. It’s this exact comprised stance that allowed gay marriages, which led to gay parishes, which led to a gay Bible (yes..they rewrote the Bible to fit their views, political positions and sinful ideologies). Do you know who else tried to rewrite the Bible in the 1940’s? Yes. The nazis. Back to being gay. The compromised made by Christians towards the gay community led to this whole mess of pronouns, mutilated bodies, teaching children that gender is fluid, putting children on puberty blockers, mutilating children’s bodies, putting pornographic material in school libraries, allowing men into women’s spaces and sports because they identify as a woman, and the list of degeneracy goes on. Sin is sin. Do we condemn the sinner? No. God does that. Do we condone the sin? No because then we are just as guilty of sin. We condemn the comprimise.

I have gay friends, and some are Christian. They are very aware of my stance, and I pray for them, but I don’t condone their behavior, but I also don’t condemn them. I’ll walk along beside them, tell them that they are loved, but will not support their SINFUL lifestyle choice. I’ll walk beside a woman who is going to have an abortion and let her know that she’s loved, but only once. If she chooses to murder another baby then I won’t walk alongside her.

Ezra called for the condemnation of complacency, and I agree with him. When we start bending to the world we are no longer obeying God and are part of the world.

So, biology and psychology mean nothing. Only the Bible is truth.

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Amen! Which, by the way means truth.

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My two cents: love, on our human definition is not the same as God’s love. His love isn’t romantic, His love doesn’t produce and sell a myriad of romance novels, and His love is not an emotion. It’s a living, breathing force that convicts us to obey His law. We are called to love each other as Jesus loves us. This isn’t the romantic love of human relationships. In fact, human “love” is a chemical concoction our own brain and body creates to bring a man and woman together for the purpose of creation and walking through life together, meeting all of life’s challenges together, worshipping together, raising children in the Word, and basically producing another generation to repeat the process. Love, in human terms, is just body chemistry tricking us into believing we “love” someone. And how has “love” worked out in the grand scheme of things? Not so well when you see high divorce rates and single parents as the norm.

God’s love is truth. Truth doesn’t care about feelings, ideologies, political affiliations, wealth, power, position or any other earthy thing. Truth is telling your son that his life choices have led him to the quagmire of poop that he finds himself in, and when he’s ready to try a different way Jesus is waiting to show him. Love isn’t telling him that he’s made good choices or living a life of purpose or fulfillment.

Loving others does not mean we bend scripture to fit the ideologies of the world in the hope that a sinner will repent. The sinner KNOWS they are sinning. We are to love them as Jesus does, and to lead them to repent, not support their lifestyle. Big difference. Yes, there will be murderers, rapists, homosexuals and even pedophiles in Heaven, but not because they “love” one another but because they repent.

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Sooo… Yes, being gay is a sin.

Aware of the consequence of any sin and walking a godly path is not easy, even if the world has accepted the gay lifestyle :rainbow:. Galatians 5:16 NIV “So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.”

BUT, I have a hard enough time keeping friends - even homosexual ones. As Christians, we are the example, not judges that condemn. I maintain, as I said earlier, I welcome all to join our fold and to discover the Word of God for his Kingdom awaits. Hebrews 12:14 NIV “Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.”

Take the opportunity to spread the gospel with friends in a loving way.

God Bless All

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From a biblical standpoint, homosexuality is considered sinful because it goes against the created order of male and female established in Genesis (Gen 1:27; 2:24), and is explicitly described as contrary to God’s will in both Old Testament (Lev 18:22; 20:13) and New Testament texts (Rom 1:26–27; 1 Cor 6:9–10; 1 Tim 1:10). The consistent pattern is that sexual union is meant to be expressed within the covenant of marriage between man and woman, reflecting both complementarity and openness to life.

Now, some argue by appealing to Christ’s commandment of love: “Love your neighbor as yourself” (Matt 22:39). At first glance, it seems this should affirm any loving relationship. However, biblically speaking, the command of love is not defined by subjective feeling or affection but by conformity to God’s revealed will. Love, in Scripture, is never detached from holiness: “For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments” (1 John 5:3).

So how does homosexuality break the love command?

  1. Toward God – Jesus said the first and greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God with all your heart (Matt 22:37). To persist in actions that God has clearly revealed as sinful is to place one’s own desires above His word. That is not loving God but resisting Him.

  2. Toward neighbor – To lead or affirm another in sin is not love but harm, because it encourages separation from God. True love seeks the eternal good of the other, not simply present affirmation. As Paul writes, “Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law” (Rom 13:10). If sin leads to destruction, then affirming sin is not doing good to one’s neighbor.

Therefore, homosexuality breaks the command of love precisely because love cannot be defined apart from God’s truth. Biblical love is ordered love—love of God first, and love of neighbor rightly understood in relation to Him.

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1 Corinthians 6:9–10
We already covered it. The unrighteous will not inherit. Paul lists sins that marked the pagan world of Corinth, then reminds them that they were washed, sanctified, and justified. The emphasis is on transformation, not presumption.

Galatians 5:19–21
Paul lists the “works of the flesh” (erga tēs sarkos): sexual immorality, impurity, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies. Then he warns, “those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.” The language is nearly identical to 1 Corinthians. Here, Paul contrasts flesh versus Spirit, showing that the inheritance belongs to those who are led by the Spirit, bearing the fruit of Christ’s cross.

Ephesians 5:3–5
Paul warns, “Sexual immorality (porneia) and all impurity (akatharsia) or covetousness (pleonexia) must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints…

For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.”

Notice Paul ties greed directly to idolatry and says such a person has no inheritance. This echoes Old Testament land inheritance language, but applied to the eternal kingdom.

Colossians 3:5–6
Paul says, “Put to death therefore what is earthly in you… On account of these the wrath of God is coming.”

A few verses later, in 3:24, he assures the saints that they “will receive the inheritance as your reward, for you are serving the Lord Christ.”

The contrast is deliberate: those who cling to sin receive wrath, those who cling to Christ receive inheritance.

Romans 8:16–17
Paul says, “The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs (klēronomoi) — heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.” Here the inheritance is tied to union with Christ in suffering and glory.

Hebrews 12:14–17
Not Paul’s hand, but consistent. Esau is used as an example, who sold his inheritance and found no place for repentance. The writer urges the saints to pursue holiness “without which no one will see the Lord.”

In all these, the pattern is clear. Inheritance language echoes Israel’s land promises. In the New Testament it is expanded to mean final participation in God’s kingdom through Christ.

The warning passages show that the kingdom is not for those who persist in the flesh, but only for those washed in Christ’s blood and sealed by the Spirit.

So when Paul says “Do you not know the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God,” he is not merely stating a moral code. He is pointing to the cross, showing that the only path to the inheritance is through cleansing, justification, and sanctification in the name of Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Scripture speaks to the heart, not the mind and emotions

@Tillman

J.

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You are taking one part of Scripture and using it against the rest. Yes, love is the great commandment. But the Bible defines love, it does not equate love to obedience to God with excusing sin. “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous” (1 John 5:3). Love does not void God’s standards, it fulfills them (Romans 13:10). To say that homosexual practice is OK because “God is love” is to ignore the same God calling it sin (Leviticus 18:22, Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10). True love speaks a warning to sinners of their danger. That is why Ezekiel 33: 8 says if we do not warn the wicked, their blood will be required at our hands.

You also misrepresent salvation. Nowhere does the Bible teach that “only love” saves. Scripture teaches that salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2: 8–9) and that saving faith always produces repentance, a turning from sin to God (Luke 13:3, Acts 17:30, 1 Thessalonians 1:9). Without repentance, there is no forgiveness of sins (Luke 24:47). God’s love does not leave us as we are, it changes us to walk in holiness (2 Corinthians 5:17, Titus 2:11–12).

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You accuse me of putting a burden on others that God hasn’t given, but that is false. I’m not adding to God’s Word, I’m quoting exactly what He says. It’s God who calls homosexuality sin (Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10), not me. To tell someone they’re sinning is not hypocrisy, it’s obedience to God’s command to: “Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear” (1 Timothy 5:20). If I stayed silent when God spoke, I’d be guilty of their blood (Ezekiel 33:8).

I too am a sinner, but the difference is this, I don’t justify my sin, I repent of it. That’s the mark of a true believer. Proverbs 28: 13 says, “He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.” Calling people to repentance is not hypocrisy, it’s the very gospel message Jesus preached: “Repent ye, and believe the gospel” (Mark 1:15). If you claim to love Christ yet defend what He calls sin, your so-called love is counterfeit.

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Hey folks… I had to make some edits.

Please keep your responses on the subject instead of on the person making statements with which you disagree.

Thanks!

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The Bible is not ambiguous about this. God’s plan has always been that one man and one woman be united in marriage (Genesis 2:24, Matthew 19:4–6). Any sexual relations outside that covenant, whether heterosexual or homosexual, are defined as sin. In Romans 1: 26–27, same-sex activity is described as “against nature” and “shameful”, not because of culture or tradition, but because it is contrary to God’s created order.

At the same time, Scripture also teaches us that all sin is equally serious before God, and all sinners are equally loved by Him. Christ died for the adulterer, the fornicator, and the homosexual (1 Corinthians 6:9–11). Paul told the Corinthians, “such were some of you, but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus.” The gospel is not about singling out one group of people and telling them that they’re the worst sinners, but calling all people to repent and believe in Jesus Christ.

How should we respond? With truth and with grace. We cannot affirm what God has called sin, but we also cannot withhold the love that Christ has shown to us. Speaking the truth about sin is not hate speech, it is the most loving thing we can do, because sin kills. Pointing people to the Savior who forgives and renews is the true answer.

What do you think it looks like to hold fast to God’s truth and also show His love to people in this area?

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KP

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I Am Glad you all got that out of your system. Maybe we can move forward now.

I just pray that all homosexuals, transexuals, and people who are counted as abominations and sinners and weird and outcast will know the very same Love I have found in God through Christ, as well as the freedom that I have found in Christ and His Commandment to Love.

The burden of Christ is light, much lighter than the burden carried by all those Proud Law Keepers, all the Pharisees of the past and present, who struggle beneath it’s weight, failing and faultering while banishing others from God for also failing to keep every letter straight.

For all fall short, none are found worthy by their own merit, and yet God in his Perfect Love does not demand that any one of you come to Him Perfected first. For the Law is a net, to catch the wicked. Written for thieves and murderers. A stumbling block for the Proud that trips them as they try to stand upon it. That is the purpose of the Law.

But Love is the Way. It is the only Way. Love, which meets every Law, by forgiving sin. And those who forgive others will themselves be forgiven. As it is written. Returning like for like. What you do, for better or worse, returns to you.

Love, for which and by which everything given by God was made. Love, which leads to righteousness through its conviction and determination to save, that none be lost.

No, God welcomes all the souls rejected by this world, rejected even by church and temple. Be they queer, unfit, sick or troubled, lost or weary, and needing to be saved. That all troubles guide us to the One Who Saves. Come, and God will give you rest.

Pay no attention to the people with their signs and their blowhorns. They know not what they do. Nor do they know the Way.

When you accept Christ into your life, God’s Spirit will come to you, a Holy Spirit to guide you and show you the Way.

But come quickly, for the days are growing shorter and the light of day will soon be gone. It will be much more difficult to find the Way. The darkness is coming.

The Commandment of Christ is to Love.

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@Tillman, poetic words do not sanctify a crooked gospel.

You’re not calling people to Christ. You’re calling them to a version of Christ stripped of repentance, holiness, and truth. You say the burden of the law is too heavy, so you toss it aside and hand people a pillow made of sentiment. But Jesus didn’t come to make sin comfortable. He came to call sinners out of it.

Yes, the burden of Christ is light… but only when you’ve laid down your rebellion. You don’t get His rest while clinging to what He came to crucify. You speak of freedom in Christ, but redefine it as freedom from His commands. That’s not liberty. That’s lawlessness.

You say the Law is just a net for the wicked. But Paul called the law holy, righteous, and good. Jesus said not a single letter of it would pass away until all is fulfilled. The law reveals sin, but grace doesn’t erase what God still calls sin. It empowers you to walk in obedience, not celebrate what He condemns.

You talk about love. So let’s talk about real love. Love does not rejoice in wrongdoing. Love does not celebrate what God calls abomination and call it identity. Love tells the truth even when it costs everything. And the truth is this… no one is beyond the reach of grace, but grace does not affirm the flesh. It kills it, so that Christ may live in its place.

God welcomes the sinner, yes. But He does not rewrite His holiness to keep them comfortable. He calls them to die and be raised anew. That includes me. That includes you. That includes the homosexual, the heterosexual, the addict, the thief, the liar, and the proud. All must repent. All must be born again.

You tell people to ignore those holding signs and preaching repentance. But some of those signs are true. And some of those blowhorns are crying out like watchmen on the wall while others play lullabies on the road to judgment.

Yes, the commandment is to love. But love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. And love your neighbor as yourself. That means if your neighbor is in sin, love doesn’t wink. Love warns. Love points to the cross, not just a feeling.

So no, we are not moving on until the truth is told. Not your version. His.

—Sincere Seeker. Stay grounded. Stay sharp. Stay in the Word.

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And those who recieve Christ inherit a mantle of Sonship. They are called Beloved, no longer bound to the Law as a slave to sin, but filled with the Holy Spiirt Who guides them in the Law of Love, which inspires peace, wholeness, healing, and joy. Those filled with the Holy Spirit are marked by these traits.

While those still bound to sin focus on sin and death, seeking the judgement and death of others while unknowingly pursuing their own dark fate, causing strife and conflict among their numbers, attempting in every way to keep the poor and the broken seperated from God, expandng the divide as much as possible while making those lost souls twice the sons of hell as they.

Do not be fooled, dear brothers and sisters, the war for your souls is nigh.

This is the hour the thief comes knocking.

It does not matter who or what you are. If you come to Christ and recieve His Spirit, you will be saved. Whether gay or straight, black or white, young or old or some other bundle of chaos or dysfunction. God does not turn away those who come humbly before Him. While the Proud will stew in their ways until the very end.

They, like Absolom, think they know better than the King. But only Christ saves. And Love is the only Way. Becoming in every way a Son and Daughter of God, in THAT Spirit.

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I love everyone because God has made them, @Tillman, but I disagree with people’s public sins that display homosexual lifestyles as if they are okay morally. At some point, when God makes it clear to me, I will make that distinction clear to them. Then, the ball’s in their court as to what they want to do with it, and I will continue to be their friend if they so choose.

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@Tillman, you are right that those who receive Christ are adopted as sons and daughters, marked by the Holy Spirit. But being marked by the Spirit is not the same as being excused from holiness. The Spirit does not set us free to redefine righteousness. He sets us free from sin so we can walk in obedience.

You speak of Sonship while denying the terms of it. Scripture says those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God… not those who simply claim the title. And the Spirit leads in truth, not in the affirmation of what God has called sin. Romans 8 does not declare the children of God free to follow the flesh. It declares them at war with it.

You say those filled with the Spirit are marked by peace, wholeness, healing, and joy. That is true. But those fruits do not float in the air. They grow out of repentance, surrender, and conformity to Christ. The peace of God is not handed to those who refuse to leave the house of sin. It is given to those who enter through the narrow gate and take up their cross.

You accuse others of being focused on death and judgment. But the call to repentance is not a death sentence. It is the doorway to life. The apostles preached repentance in every city, not because they hated sinners, but because they loved them enough to warn them. If you think that’s strife, then you need to re-read the Gospels and see how Jesus Himself dealt with sin.

Yes, the thief comes in the night. But the thief isn’t the one holding fast to God’s Word. The thief is the one whispering that sin isn’t really sin, that love means silence, that holiness is optional, and that God’s design is flexible if your intentions feel right. That message has stolen more souls than any street preacher ever has.

God welcomes the broken. Yes. But He does not save on your terms. He saves by grace through faith… and faith without repentance is dead. No one walks into the kingdom holding hands with their favorite sin. We all come through the same cross, and the ground there is soaked in blood, not sentiment.

You call for humility. Good. Then start with the humility to accept that God’s definition of love, holiness, and salvation does not bend to culture, desire, or popular theology. Christ saves. But He saves by calling people out of darkness… not by painting the darkness with softer colors.

—Sincere Seeker. Stay grounded. Stay sharp. Stay in the Word.

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Only Christ saves. Only the Holy Spirit transforms. And only God sees the heart.

We should all ask God for the revelation to know if our methodology or our delivery serves His Kingdom, if what we do turns people away from God or brings them home.

I have seen great evil done by Christians in their war against homosexuals. And some one will be held to account for it.

We should all ask God if it is His Will for us to say or do anything at all. To know for what purpose our words and actions truly serve.

A man or woman can quote Scripture and speak the Name of Jesus in every other sentence, but still walk in the spirit of destruction, that is Satan the Destroyer. Serving only to destroy life.

The Holy Spirit stands in stark contrast to this.

May those who can hear my words hear me now. There are wolves among us.

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Tillman, no one disagrees that only Christ saves, only the Holy Spirit transforms, and only God sees the heart. That is true. But it is also true that the same Christ who saves is the One who will judge. And the same Spirit who transforms will never affirm what God has condemned.

You speak of “great evil done by Christians” as if calling sin what Scripture clearly defines is violence. That’s a lie the enemy loves. Yes, there are those who hate without love, who scream without grace, who weaponize truth without mercy. But there are also those who speak hard truth because they love souls more than comfort. That’s not destruction. That’s intercession.

When Stephen was stoned, it wasn’t because he hated people. It was because he told the truth. When Jesus called the Pharisees whitewashed tombs, it wasn’t out of cruelty. It was out of holy clarity. You talk about wolves, but the real wolves are the ones telling people they can have Christ without crucifying the flesh. The wolves don’t growl. They flatter. They redefine. They say “peace, peace” where there is no peace.

You want to know if our words turn people away or bring them home. But that depends on whether the people love the truth or hate it. Jesus turned people away. Not because He failed to love, but because they loved their sin more than they loved the light. If you define righteousness by crowd reaction, you’ll end up preaching a gospel that offends no one and saves no one.

You warn that a man can quote Scripture and still walk in the spirit of destruction. That’s true. But it’s also true that a man can speak of love, grace, and the Spirit, while leading people away from repentance and calling it peace. That is destruction with a smile. The devil quoted Scripture too. So quoting Jesus isn’t enough. You have to obey Him.

Yes, let us ask God if our words serve Him. But let us not be so afraid of offending people that we offend the One who gave us the Word in the first place.

—Sincere Seeker. Stay grounded. Stay sharp. Stay in the Word.

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Thanx @Tillman for this. You have appropriately designated the sin of this topic in the family of other forms of chaos and dysfunction. You are right, and you are heard, and I appreciate it.
Love does not ignore (passively accept) poor souls trapped in any form of chaos or dysfunction. Love warns! Your call to those thus trapped to seek the holiness of Christ (to repent) here is greatly appreciated.

Good for you!
KP

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I agree with you completely, @Tillman. We need to weed out the destructive elements. I’m very thankful for my huge church, which is wedded with the Scriptures in everything, and for my small group of positive, prayerful people. We love and help each other when we have needs. If you want to watch any of our pastors’ sermons, they are on the home page under “Media” at chapel-pointe.org.