Peter Thiel has been the in news again. For those who haven’t heard of him, google has a lot of answers. Basically he is a Silicon Valley billionaire who co-founded PayPal and Palantir; a data mining company. What’s of interest was his invitation only talks in San Francisco last year on the antichrist and he’s now in Rome delivering the same talks. Recordings are not allowed. Photos are not allowed. The catholic persuasion has kept their distance. As a gay man, he claims to be a Christian. Maybe he is, but I find him confusing. Perhaps someone here has more insight into this man and just how important is he to end time events?
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Of course, as EVERY serious Christian knew in 1936, Mussolini was The Antichrist.
Only fools play the foolish game of “Today’s Antichrist Candidate Is … !”
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Thanks, but I was asking more to do with Peter Thiel than anything concerning the antichrist. He’s influential politically having supported Vance financially and Trump. He has their ear.
Sorry. I was trying to foster the conversation. I sorry you felt that inappropriate. It’s been removed.
I’d like to bring something up if i might in light of end time interest. I appreciate the heart to have interest in what might be going down with certain players. And trying to see where a piece like Thiel might fit. But I would like to share something to consider in the second half of this post that might have deeper ramifications than even if Thiel well fits in AC rampup systems. And I believe he does fit, by the way, I do think he does.
Thiel interestingly enough has brought up the antichrist and seems to have concern for his arrival. While hopeful I suppose that his system could protect us some how from AC–or perhaps that future leaders become more philosophically inclined to weather the future with altruistic care over pragmatism. OR Thiel just knows what he is unleashing has that power to corrupt down the road and is trying ro provide cover (knowing where this likely goes) or at least gives a disclaimer as he rolls his tech out. Here is a short (25 min) recent (posted 2 weeks ago) video going over meticulous details if helpful and you have not already seen this.
Peter Thiel’s Antichrist Warning
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Up until recently I have not been a fan of things related to antichrist being brought up. Originally, I come from a background of 25 years in having “0” interest in end times. To sensing for sure something is up in 2016. To being pulled in several directions since then. To refining my own theories of end times. To realizing even if that one is real, it may take quite a while.
In the early days of end time speculation (2016) I was interested in Antichrist (AC) because of the Gotthard Tunnel Celebration (sure seemed like a tribute to the 5th trumpet in Revelation). Plus the Olympics opening/closing ceremonies and Superbowl halftime shows often depicted very dark demonic like subjects. Like the whole world literally wanted to roll out a red carpet for AC. Pretty freaky
By 2018 I was well onto a different sort of end time awareness. It seemed to be a time too of God wanting to help humanity see His goodness too. End times rarely ends up in talking about the goodness of God (at least in the themes I have seen over the years). It’s usually about dark themes related to the book of Revelation. The beast system, for example.
The best i can tell, and would likely have best grounding in is that we will see things potentially occur in our age leading to the tribulation (however far off that is). But it would be my understanding that things occurring during and in the age of grace likely mean something different than they will in the tribulation. Precisely because they are two different ages.
I don’t believe the church will see who the antichrist will be. But i do believe that things we can tend to label today as the beast system may become that in the tribulation era. But the focus that today they are or are becoming the beast system has captivated us. I understand that. But what I would like to encourage about our age is it is the age of grace. And the children of light, the children of the day are here now. 1 The 5:11. And because of that reality, it may well be that things we might see as the beast system (like bitcoin for example) may be seen as digital enslavement. Meanwhile along with gold, bitcoin could be used to overtake the failing debt note American dollar (central banking) current day monetary beast system. And provide better financial world economic flow. The only time I have heard something that good or helpful be considered a part of end times is if it is falsely brought to us by an Antichrist in deception. But i think it can come aside from the beast system.
So even though I see Thiel as instrumental in Facebook investment (which many see as a CIA data capture social trap) something that eventually down the road leads to a one-world AC system, I see what Facebook means for us on this side of the tribulation divide isle can be actually some good things. I bring up Facebook as an example of the power of social media today. Yes it has become vanity square and a littering of self centered influencers (its a fallen world). But the advent of the internet (what will become a one-world dominating power infrastructure) helped to see past gas lighting. Brought people close together in ways. And gave access of ability to band together against huge entities not having the greatest motives towards us. The Covid scenario being both a way to see how powerful the internet can protect us from bad medicine, just as much as it was used to manipulate us into taking bad medicine.
My point on this is that the internet (and Thiel investments into social media as example) can provide people all over the world advantage. We can research quicker. We can communicate well with one another. We see BS a lot faster. We can hold some accountable through social media influence. Its a fallen world. So it will always bring bad. But the good the internet has brought is significant. The very ability to have this discussion and learn from one another. In that sense the trajectory of the world has been becoming more socially minded. More altruistic in a fallen sense. But altruistic non-the-less. And if there is a globalist deep state and they try to shut communication down…it will be virtually impossible to escape notice in our day. So some things Thiel, Musk, Trump etc. bring in will likely be AC central notes in the tribulation period. But today bring potential care, healing and advantage as long as it is called today. If that makes sense? Blessings.
Just simply not true. If this were the case, Jesus would have returned, and we would be far different from what we are now. Compared to 1936, the 40s, 50s, even the 60s-70s, we are a much more evil world today. People who are only enough can judge for themselves.
Sorry, but based on what I have read and know about the Word and God, this is yet to come. I understand you disagree; however, that does not make you right. There are way too many things that have NOT happened yet, as depicted in Revelations, for it to have already come about. Trust me, no one will miss it.
Peter
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Thanks Peter for this. In many ways I am still trying to understand the general lay of the land in our forum so I can best communicate within its social framework. I agree with the futurist view. It would seem this forum has 2 major camps in eschatology. 1. Futurist and, 2. Preterist. It would seem these two views are of significant size in our forum. Would that be an accurate assumption?
As for the AC, my general position on that is that the church will likely not know who this will be. My leanings toward a pretrib rapture suggest this. But even more, 2 Thes 2 to me is midtrib focus. Whereas much of the watcher world would see implications of 2Thes2 to be when the AC makes a covenant with the many. Then we would know who the AC is.
I suppose my instinct on that would likely be that the watcher world, from what i have noticed, has been taken by surprise in how it would seem so slow-motion like that end times would seem to be forming around us. From language found in Luke 21:36 and even more like in “sudden destruction” of 1 Thes 5, I believe we have been surprised to see very slowly how things are falling into place. Giving a ton of time for the world to consider. At least that had been the feel a few years back, where it did seem very slow motion like in comparison to perhaps a more “suddenly we find our selves in the tribulation” shock. I believe one of the main reasons for this surprise is how we might have leaned on a sudden like situation to occur, otherwise it would be too obvious to the world what would be happening…effectively removing a need for such sudden language in scripture. And it seemed to make sense to us this way. But now we can see that prophecy can occur right out in the open “all over the place” and it not be obvious at all.
So i say all of that to say perhaps kind of the opposite when it comes to the AC. That we might think to find out. But if 2 Thes 2 language is midtrib oriented, then we won’t know because the reveal seems to be when he demands worship of himself. Then the world would have plain sight. And an angel warning not to take the mark. I bring this up because @Dr_S to me is pointing out that Christians can have overreaction to world events. Even in the watcher camps I would say this phenomenon is common. We can tend to make so many things “sensationalized.” Examples of rapture dates and also i think a pretty big wave (some may not know) coming from Craig Bong and thinking the tribulation was going to start in December of 2024 (according to United Nations charter language).
So I guess I am just trying to get a best sense of where arguments are coming from. I had been in the reformed camp for decades but am no longer in that camp at all. But it would seem there is a pretty significant reformed denominational presence here as well, would you say?
Thanks for the video. It, along with an article in The Guardian, has helped me understand better where Thiel is coming from. His view on the AC is different than what I’ve always believed. He sees it more as a system and I’ve always thought it to be an individual. We both understand that he or it comes about to promise peace and safety when peace is threatened. Again, thanks! A great video