For us prisoners

All through the Bible a central theme is being in captivity is where God can really do some great and mighty things. Joseph, Jeremiah, Daniel, Paul, all found a miraculous connection with God while incarcerated. The Son of God himself died as a prisoner. We as prisoners can either “do our time” or accept the blessings of being separated from a world of distractions and intensely seek a walk with God that will shake the very gates of hell.

What are your favorite ‘prisoner verses’?

God sets the lonely in families,
he leads out the prisoners with singing;
but the rebellious live in a sun-scorched land.

psalms 68:6

To crush underfoot

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”I want you to know, brothers, that what has happened to me has really served to advance the gospel, so that it has become known throughout the whole imperial guard and to all the rest that my imprisonment is for Christ. And most of the brothers, having become confident in the Lord by my imprisonment, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.” Philippians 1:12-14

Also this one.

“Remember those who are in prison, as though in prison with them, and those who are mistreated, since you also are in the body." Hebrews 13:3

Sadly, sometimes an invisible cell is more deadly than a physical one.

Peter

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God can work in prison. He worked in the life of Joseph and Jeremiah and Daniel and Paul and even in the sufferings of Christ Himself. But don’t forget why Jesus, John the Baptist, Joseph, Jeremiah, Daniel, and Paul were in prison. None of them were in chains because they had committed a crime. Each one of them was suffering for having obeyed God. Scripture draws that distinction very clearly.

Peter made that difference plain to believers: “Let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer… but if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed” ~1 Peter 4:15-16. Righteous suffering is not the same as suffering for your evil deeds in the sight of God.

Jesus was crucified though He was sinless.
Joseph was falsely accused.
Jeremiah was punished for preaching God’s Word.
Daniel was in prison for praying to the Lord.
Paul was in chains for preaching the gospel.
John the Baptist was the same as the others. He did not go to prison because he broke the law. He went to prison because he told the truth. He confronted Herod’s sin, and Herod locked him up for it ~Matthew 14:3-4.

Their imprisonment was persecution, not a judgment for sin.

It’s good to know God can reach anyone anywhere, even prison. But let’s not confuse biblical examples of righteous suffering with being imprisoned for breaking the law. The Bible never treats those two situations as equal.

God can redeem anyone. God can work anywhere. But the people of Scripture who suffered for their faith were not punished for their evil. They were punished because they followed God. That distinction matters, and Scripture itself draws that line.

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You are 100% correct yet again @bdavidc. You are also 100% off topic yet again and using scripture to attack a brother. Now before you start quoting even more scripture to justify your post don’t bother. I have read you for a while and I am quite familiar with the holier than thou mega religious spirit of ‘correction’ that motivates you.

here’s the thing,

  1. I am innocent of the crime I am being held for, Hence no lawyer or trial for 3 years and constant torment.
  2. you could contribute positevely with your deep knowledge of scripture but more often than not you use it to attack.

Your entire response is the same argument used by the police and inmates to degrade and discourage “jail house religion” One step away from “get that Jesus S*** outta my face” which I have heard more than once.

I don’t rebuke you David, I love you, but I do rebuke that spirit of religion running your post. Please if you must respond to any more of my posts in the future consider using a private DM so if my post could bless someone it be allowed to.

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~Psalm 107:14
He brought them out of darkness and the deep gloom and broke their chains, the verb brought out is yotsiem which pictures decisive deliverance, the verb broke is yinatek which tears something apart with force, the nouns darkness, gloom, chains show the suffocating places where God works the strongest redemption.

~Isaiah 42:7
God sends his servant to open blind eyes and to bring out prisoners from the dungeon, the verbs open and bring out are liftoach and lehotzi which give the sense of God actively unlocking and leading forth, the nouns blind eyes, prisoners, dungeon describe total helplessness where only divine intervention can move the story forward.

~Isaiah 61:1
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me to proclaim liberty to the captives and freedom to the prisoners, the verb proclaim is lebaser which means to announce good news, the verbs give liberty and give freedom are leqro and lepetach which speak of God granting release, and the nouns captives and prisoners mark the very people God delights to raise into hope.

~Jeremiah 33:1 to 3
The word of the Lord came to Jeremiah while he was still shut up in the courtyard of the guard, came is the verb hayah which marks divine initiative entering confinement, shut up is the verb atzur that describes restriction of movement, and the Lord says call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things, call is qera in Hebrew which is a summons to cry out, answer is e’eneh which promises response, tell is aggid which promises revelation, and the nouns courtyard, guard, things unsearchable create the scene that confinement is never a wall to God’s voice.

~Acts 16:25 to 26
Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, praying is proseuchomenoi and singing is hymnoun, verbs of ongoing action, and suddenly there came a great earthquake, came is egeneto showing God’s direct interruption, the foundations shook, shook is eseisthē, the doors opened, opened is ēneōchthēsan, the chains were loosed, loosed is anethēsan, and the nouns midnight, chains, doors, earthquake show the arena where God displays his freeing strength.

~Philippians 1:13
Paul says his chains have become known in the whole palace guard as being in Christ, have become known is phaneroisthai which means to be made visible, chains is the noun desmoi that becomes a testimony instead of a defeat, and the palace guard becomes the unexpected mission field as the Lord turns captivity into witness.

~Psalm 34:18
The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit, is near is qerov which expresses God’s closeness, saves is yoshia which paints rescue, and brokenhearted and crushed are nouns describing the inward condition prisoners feel most, yet here God draws nearest.

These verses tell YOU that God does not waste captivity, God works in it, God speaks in it, God sings into it, God saves in it, and every verb shows God moving toward the inmate while every noun names the exact place God enters, and this becomes the ground for a deeper walk with Christ who himself suffered under chains and rose to break them forever.

Stay strong in Messiah brother.

J.

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i have a red tablet as well and i feel your pain i have been here for 2 years with no trial. But God is going to bless you my friend so keep being patient.

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First of all, there was nothing abusive, personal, or out of line in a word I said. I simply corrected your interpretation and pointed out that Joseph, Jeremiah, Daniel, Paul and Jesus weren’t in prison for breaking the law. I stuck with Scripture. You took it personally. That doesn’t make my comment wrong. Your reaction had nothing to do with anything I said, but to do with frustration at being corrected. You even said that you didn’t want me quoting Scripture, which should show where the problem lies. If someone doesn’t want Scripture to be brought into an argument, the issue is not with me, but with the Word itself.

You claim that I “use Scripture to attack,” but to say what the Bible actually says is not an attack on a person. It is the truth correcting error. Scripture is only an attack if someone is trying to twist it to fit their situation or to benefit themselves. The Word shows up motives ~Hebrews 4:12. So let me ask plainly: are you in prison because you were preaching the true gospel of the Bible? If not, then using the stories of Joseph, Jeremiah, Daniel, Paul or Jesus to justify your situation is twisting Scripture**. They were not there for breaking the law. They were there for standing for God’s truth.**

You talk about how others see “jailhouse religion.” The main reason is because most of them are only saying they have faith to get out of a situation. That is why people don’t believe them. But I also know that some are truly born again, because their fruit is proof of it ~Matthew 7: 17, and they don’t attack the message of the Bible when it confronts what they want it to say.

You called the correction “off topic,” you called Scripture an “attack,” and you accused me of having a “religious spirit.” None of that proves that I did anything wrong. It only proves that you didn’t like the truth that was spoken. I am not off topic. This is a Christian forum, and the Word of God is not a “spirit of religion.” It is the truth, and this forum is built on that truth.

What you wrote was not how a believer should respond to correction. Don’t claim to “love” someone while spurning what the Bible actually says and only wanting your own words to stand. I will respond publicly to any post you make. If you don’t want a biblical response then don’t post publicly. The Word of God builds people up. Personal accusations do not.

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Scripture never commends a person for being in prison for doing wrong. The Bible makes a clear distinction between suffering for the right reason and suffering for the wrong reason. “Let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer” ~1 Peter 4:15. When a person suffers as a consequence of real misdeeds, that is justice, not honorable suffering. “If you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain” ~Romans 13:3-4. Sin has consequences. “Be sure your sin will find you out” ~Numbers 32:23.

The only people in Scripture honored as “prisoners” are those who suffered due to their obedience to God. Joseph was falsely accused ~Genesis 39:20-21. Jeremiah was thrown in jail for preaching God’s word ~Jeremiah 37:15. Daniel was punished for praying ~Daniel 6:16. Paul and Silas were beaten and jailed for preaching Christ ~Acts 16:23. Their suffering came as a result of obedience to God, not sin.

The Bible says it clearly. “If anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed. But let none of you suffer as an evildoer” ~1 Peter 4:15-16.

So the “prisoner verses” do not honor being in jail for doing wrong. The true “prisoner verses” honor suffering for the right reason. Scripture never commends suffering that is a direct result of breaking the law.

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There is problem with your response and it not the verses you included. The problem was how you used them. You did not treat them as Scripture instructs us to treat them. God tells us not to add our own conceptions or emotions to His Word ~Deuteronomy 4:2. But again most of your response consists of symbolic interpretations, Hebrew and Greek imagery, and messages the passages themselves do not teach.

You made descriptions into promises. You took verses that were given to Israel, verses about the Messiah, and verses about particular historical events, and applied them directly to present-day inmates as if that was God’s original purpose. That is not Sola Scriptura. That is imposing a personal concept upon the text.

Psalm 107 is about Israel’s national redemption, not about God promising to release spiritual prisoners in their cell blocks. Isaiah 42 and Isaiah 61 are about Christ coming to rescue sinners, not a generic promise that God trains everyone in confinement. Jeremiah 33 is about God speaking to the prophet He called, not a paradigm that captivity is the place God reveals “unsearchable things” to all. Acts 16 is a miracle God performed for a divine reason, not a paradigm that He must always break prisoners out or make their imprisonment a special spiritual season. None of these passages say what you implied.

Your word-study imagery created a meaning that was not in the verses. Hebrew and Greek verbs do not give us the liberty to craft images or emotions the Spirit did not inspire into the text. When you write, “God enters the nouns,” or that every verb “shows God moving toward the inmate,” that is not Scripture, that is imagination. It may sound poetic, but it is not biblical.

The real danger in what you wrote is that it causes people to believe Scripture says something it does not say. It tells inmates that captivity itself is a spiritual blessing, when the Bible clearly differentiates between suffering for righteousness’ sake and suffering for sin. “Let none of you suffer as an evildoer” ~1 Peter 4:15. To turn incarceration for a crime into a spiritual commendation befuddles people, blinds them to repentance, and creates false expectations about what God has actually said. That is how people end up using Scripture to self-comfort in their sin instead of letting the Word confront them.

God can work anywhere, even prison, but we do not have the liberty to manipulate His Word to accommodate someone’s narrative. Scripture is the truth as God gave it. When we distort it, even for good purposes, we mislead people and diminish the very message God uses to liberate them.

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Bruce, I am answering you directly, and I am answering you plainly, because your critique has crossed from iron sharpening iron into something closer to policing tone and imputing motives that were never present, so hear this clearly in one long line without shortcuts, without evasion, and without allowing you to misrepresent what was actually written.

You accuse me of adding to Scripture, yet nowhere did I add one command or one promise beyond the text, not one, and you know this, because every verse I used was handled with context, grammar, and original audience in view, exactly as Scripture demands under ~Deuteronomy 4.2, and to apply those passages in pastoral encouragement is not invention, it is the biblical pattern seen in every prophet and every apostle who drew present comfort and present warning from Israel’s history while still preserving the original meaning, look at Paul in ~1 Corinthians 10 who treats Israel’s wilderness narrative as written for our instruction, not in a way that erases the original context, but in a way that extends the theological implications to believers who suffer, and that is the same thing I am doing with men in prison who need the Word pressed into their situation, not abstracted away from them.

You say Psalm 107 is only about Israel’s national redemption, yet the psalmist himself universalizes the pattern with a sweeping imperative that the redeemed of the Lord say so, which means the covenant pattern of God hearing the distressed and bringing them out of trouble has present devotional value for any repentant believer who cries out, and to say so is not to claim God must break open a prison cell, it is to declare that God still hears desperate men and women when they call to Him in truth, and you have offered no textual argument that forbids this pastoral use, only a complaint about my tone.

You say Isaiah 42 and Isaiah 61 belong exclusively to Christ, and I agree fully, they belong to Him, they reach their fullness in Him, and because they reach their fullness in Him they carry present implications for those united to Him by faith, and that is basic Christian theology, not mysticism, not allegory, and certainly not a distortion of the prophetic message. Christ fulfills those words, and believers share in the benefits of His liberating work because the cross is not a museum piece, it is an active reality that still rescues sinners in whatever place they find themselves.

You say Jeremiah 33 cannot be applied, yet the principle that God reveals what is hidden to His people is affirmed across the canon, and to remind a repentant inmate that God still speaks through His Word even in confinement is not twisting prophecy, it is pastoral clarity, and your objection reduces every Old Testament promise to a closed historical box where nothing can be drawn for edification unless the text itself repeats the phrase for all people at all times, which is not how the apostles ever handled Scripture.

You say Acts 16 is not a paradigm, and no one claimed it was, but you ignore the fact that Luke writes these narratives to display how God works in darkness, how He reaches the marginalized, how He shakes people awake to the gospel, and to tell a prisoner that God still enters locked places with purpose is not a false promise, it is faithful theology grounded in Christ crucified who descended into the darkest place to lift sinners out.

You accuse me of letting inmates comfort themselves in sin, yet the entire message I sent made repentance essential, holiness essential, examination of life essential, and you conveniently ignore that because it does not fit the caricature you constructed, and I will not carry the weight of a charge you fabricated.

You are zealous for accuracy, but you are turning zeal into a weapon that wounds without discernment, and your method is beginning to mirror the very problem you accuse me of, because you are adding your personal rules of application to Scripture and binding them on others without proof, then condemning any use of the text that does not fit your narrow framework, and that is not guarding the Word, that is restricting the Word.

I will continue to handle Scripture with context, original intent, grammar, and Christ at the center, and I will continue to press the cross into the lives of the broken, the imprisoned, and the repentant, because the gospel belongs in cell blocks as surely as it belongs in living rooms, and if you wish to debate interpretations then do so text in hand with sound exegesis, not sweeping accusations, not misrepresentations of what was actually said, and not personal insinuations about motive.

Such is the problem with KJV only-“isms”

J.

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The only reason I respond to these posts is because you consistently take Scripture in directions the text itself does not go. This isn’t about disagreement or preference. It is a pattern of redefining passages, inserting meanings that aren’t there, and stretching verses to fit ideas Scripture never teaches. When that becomes continual, it has to be corrected, because believers are commanded not to “go beyond what is written” ~1 Corinthians 4:6.

My replies are not about winning an argument. They are about guarding the truth. The moment we let imagination take the place of what the Spirit actually inspired, we stop helping people and start confusing them. Scripture is clear: “Every word of God is pure… do not add to His words, lest He reprove you” ~Proverbs 30:5–6.

If your posts stayed within what the text truly says, I would have no reason to reply. But when the meaning is repeatedly reshaped into something the passage does not teach, I’m going to hold up the Word and call it back to center. That’s not hostility. That’s obedience.

I’m not against you. I’m against anything that clouds what God has spoken, because only His truth sets people free ~John 8:32.

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Same here…

The context of ~1 Corinthians 4.6 is Paul rebuking the Corinthian habit of elevating teachers, creating factions, and turning servants of Christ into party champions, and he uses himself and Apollos as examples so the church can see the point without taking sides, and the phrase not to go beyond what is written is not a ban on commentaries, it is a command that no one may elevate human judgments, personal loyalties, or speculative ideas above the already revealed Word of God, because the Corinthians were drifting into prideful comparisons instead of submitting to the authority of the Scriptures that shaped Paul’s own ministry.

Paul’s line not to go beyond what is written ties the whole argument back to the earlier scriptural citations in the letter, especially his use of the Old Testament to humble human pride, and his point is that Scripture sets the boundaries for how leaders are viewed and how ministry is evaluated, and the Corinthians were ignoring those boundaries by turning apostolic servants into tribal banners, so Paul pulls them back to the written Word as the standard by which they must judge themselves and their teachers.

This does not forbid using commentaries, because commentaries do not add revelation, they simply help explain what is written, and as long as they are tools under Scripture rather than authorities over Scripture they do not violate Paul’s warning, which targets arrogance, rivalry, and man centered boasting, not responsible study aids.

So in short, the context is factions, pride, and the misuse of leaders, and the command is that the church must remain within the lines of the Word God has given, not within the lines of human competition or personality driven theology, and it has nothing to do with banning commentaries or scholarship, only with refusing to treat any human opinion as if it were Scripture itself.

Beyond what is written – That is, the general instructions found in Scripture— here meaning the OT. In all matters pertaining to religion the Scriptures are to be final authority. The principle applies to NT Scripture as well. (cf. 1Co_1:19; 1Co_1:31; 1Co_3:19)

Be puffed up – Gr. phusioô, from phusa, “a pair of bellows,” hence, “to be self-exalted,” “to be self-conceited.” Paul condemns the pride of those who exalted their party above others, or their party leader over other party leaders.

This was a major spiritual problem for the church at Corinth. Paul uses this word in 1Co_4:6; 1Co_4:18-19; 1Co_5:2; 1Co_8:1; 1Co_13:4 and in a list of sins in 2Co_12:20. It is only used outside the Corinthian letters in the NT in Col_2:18, where it refers to Gnostic visions of special knowledge.

Believers should consider themselves to be “brothers” together and no Christian should regard any other as inferior to him or as deserving of contempt.

J.

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I hear that you feel misrepresented, so let me make this simple. My issue is not your desire to help inmates. It is the way you are handling Scripture to support it. God commands us to “test all things; hold fast what is good” ~1 Thessalonians 5:21. That means separating good intentions from accurate doctrine.

You say you did not add anything to the text, yet your own language goes further than the passages themselves. When you write that every verb “shows God moving toward the inmate” and that the nouns become “the exact place God enters,” you are assigning modern inmates as the direct target of texts that never mention them. Psalm 107 speaks of God’s dealings with Israel and calls “the redeemed of the Lord” to testify ~Psalm 107:2. That is rich encouragement, but it does not teach that incarceration is a special spiritual season for all prisoners. That jump from what the text says to what you want it to say is exactly the problem.

You appeal to ~1 Corinthians 10, but notice Paul’s method. He draws moral lessons the text itself contains. He does not create new categories or transfer historical details into new promises. There is a difference between applying the passages as the apostles did and inventing patterns the text never names.

You say Isaiah 42 and 61 belong to Christ. I agree. They are fulfilled in Him. But the liberty He brings first is freedom from sin, not from legal consequences. The New Testament calls believers to serve God faithfully in whatever state they are in ~1 Corinthians 7:20–24. Scripture never teaches that confinement itself is a divinely chosen training ground. When we speak as if incarceration for sin is itself a spiritual commendation, we blur the clear line between suffering for righteousness and suffering as an evildoer ~1 Peter 4:15–16.

Jeremiah 33 was God’s word to Jeremiah at a specific moment ~Jeremiah 33:1–3. God still reveals truth through His Word today ~2 Timothy 3:16–17, but tying that promise specifically to captivity and turning it into a model for all inmates is more than the text says. The same applies to Acts 16. It shows what God did in that situation. It is not presented as a universal pattern. Narrative is not a template unless the text itself makes it one.

I did not accuse you of encouraging sin. I warned that your framing of captivity can let people feel spiritually affirmed without dealing honestly with why they are there. Scripture is clear: “Let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer” ~1 Peter 4:15. When we portray prison primarily as a holy training ground rather than, in many cases, the righteous consequence of sin, we dull the cutting edge of the Word. Comforting the broken is right. Comforting them in ways Scripture does not teach is not.

Your comment about “KJV only-isms” has nothing to do with the text. Scripture warns us not to let corrupt communication proceed, but only what edifies ~Ephesians 4:29. If you believe my exegesis is wrong, stay with the passage. “Let the others judge” ~1 Corinthians 14:29. The standard is the Word, not labels.

I am not restricting Scripture. I am refusing to go beyond what is written ~1 Corinthians 4:6. God works in prisons. He saves, comforts, and transforms. But He has not told us to turn every captivity passage into a universal promise for present-day inmates. When we do that, we cross from exposition into imagination.

My plea is simple. Keep ministering to inmates. Keep preaching Christ. But let the text say exactly what God said, no more and no less. That honors the inmates, and it honors the Lord who alone can save them.

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I think you are all very intelligent but i think everyone is off track here, “For us prisoners” i believe this topic was created to remind us prisoners that we can sit here and just do our time or we can praise our Lord and change our lives. I dont think my friend here made this topic to debate why they were incarcerated but to remind us that our god is an all forgiving god and while incarcerated we should take the time to get close to him. Just because we are incarcerated for a crime and they were incarcerated or worshiping doesnt make us different. We are all equal and everything happens for a purpose. so for us prisoners lets get close to god because we are who he is calling to we are his broken chidren. and im sorry im not as intelligent as the rest of you and all of you know way more about the scriptures than myself so if im wrong then im wrong but i appreciate the topic for us prisoners thank you @Inmate

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You can add a @ before inmate like this @Inmate @paulhinkle He will receive a notification.

J.

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@Johann thank you i wasnt sure how you did that

Now you get it @paulhinkle

J.

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You are making something hard that God made very simple. Paul said “do not go beyond what is written” ~1 Corinthians 4:6. That means exactly what it says. Stay inside Scripture. Do not add ideas. Do not drag in meanings God never gave. Most of what you write just wrote does the opposite.

You keep saying your explanations “don’t add revelation,” but they add thoughts that are nowhere in the text. Scripture flat out forbids that. God never told us to trust commentaries or long explanations. He told us to trust His Word. “Every word of God is pure… do not add to His words” ~Proverbs 30:5-6.

Yes, Paul dealt with pride and factions, but you use that as a cover to slip in your own interpretations. The point is still simple. God sets the boundary with Scripture. Your explanations do not. The moment you stretch the text, you are already breaking the command.

You also said commentaries are fine. No, they are not the Word of God. They are man’s opinions about the Word. God never told His people to lean on that. His Word is enough. The Spirit teaches through Scripture, not through someone else’s notes.

You say commentaries “don’t add revelation,” but the moment anyone treats them as needed to explain what God already said, they are adding to the message. That is exactly what Scripture warns against.

Paul’s command still stands: do not go beyond what is written ~1 Corinthians 4:6. Commentaries are outside what is written. They are not inspired. They are not God’s voice. They do not carry His authority.

So your claim is not biblical. God does not tell us to treat commentaries as harmless. He tells us to cling to His Word alone.

Your post is filled with commentary style arguments, Greek notes, and your own reasoning. None of that changes the fact that you are ignoring the heart of the command. Paul did not give anyone permission to stretch Scripture. He told the church to stay inside it. You keep crossing that line.

Here is the blunt truth. The things you are teaching are not in the text. They are not from the Spirit. They are from you. When you put your ideas beside Scripture, you step into false teaching. You are not guarding truth. You are reshaping it. And Scripture warns that anyone who adds to God’s Word will be reproved. It really is that simple.

Anyone here that can assist me with this brother bdavidc @KPuff @PeterC @Inmate ?

Thanks.

J.

maybe he wants you to say he is right, i dont know why he is hounding you @Johann. but he obviously wants to be right about this subject. I would simply apolgize and tell him he is right and move forward with the help you bring to so many. This is nothing to debate about. I look forward to reading more of your post so you are obviously doing something right in my eyes and probably in many others as well

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